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Old 2004-03-25, 23:30
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These are pretty strict rules, you might get a few confused people.
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Old 2004-03-26, 01:18
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I wouldn't think so...I mean, what is there that someone couldn't get?! If you try to exit a tab, a box can pop up and tell you to vote before you leave.
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Old 2004-03-26, 04:59
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Old 2004-03-26, 06:33
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haha I never noticed your sig before, hahahahahha.

this is what I think:

1. only registered users vote
2. REQUIRES a vote BEFORE you leave the tab, that way you WILL get a sufficient amount of votes.....sorta like paying for a porn site, but getting the free trial...
...but after that first vote, you can't vote again, so it's final. And if the vote comes with a dumb comment, the tab mods can delete the vote altogether.
3. Along with the vote, must have a comment, not "sucks balls", etc., but this note here is wrong, yadda yadda yadda..
4. the second the tab is posted into the "Pending Tabs" forum, the tab gets locked, cause there's no need for it to get a comment there, just look it up in the home page to comment and vote.
5. If the solo can't be done, then the rest of the song must be tabbed.

Hahah, your sig is pretty sick too man, heheheheh.

But yeah, good ideas.
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Old 2004-03-26, 13:55
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haha I never noticed your sig before, hahahahahha.

this is what I think:

1. only registered users vote
2. REQUIRES a vote BEFORE you leave the tab, that way you WILL get a sufficient amount of votes.....sorta like paying for a porn site, but getting the free trial...
...but after that first vote, you can't vote again, so it's final. And if the vote comes with a dumb comment, the tab mods can delete the vote altogether.
3. Along with the vote, must have a comment, not "sucks balls", etc., but this note here is wrong, yadda yadda yadda..
4. the second the tab is posted into the "Pending Tabs" forum, the tab gets locked, cause there's no need for it to get a comment there, just look it up in the home page to comment and vote.
5. If the solo can't be done, then the rest of the song must be tabbed.


On the problem of voting, I first thought about a requirement to vote if you view a tab but I don't think it would work. It would mean that the mods would have to moderate after each hit that a tab on the site receives. There are roughly 5'000 tabs on the site and even if each tab gets just one hit a day, that's a lot of moderating of comments to be done for only a handful of guys.

I think maybe the solution to voter apathy could be resolved by advertising the voting facility more obviously. Maybe a sign on the homepage could read something like:

"Here at metaltabs.com we strive to be the best metal tablature site on the net. However, we are always looking to improve the quality of our archive and in order to do this we need your honest feedback. So please take the time to vote for any tabs that you view and are familiar with. It's this feedback that can help us to maintain the high standards we have set at metaltabs.com. Thanks."

Or something like that.

Maybe we could all include a note at the top of our tabs asking people to vote and comment. It could be incorporated into the tab template (something else will have to be worked out for PT) and read something like:

"If you like this tab then please take the time to give it a rating and make a short comment. Even if you don't like it, please still vote and include a brief comment as to why. Thanks."

I think with these regular encouragements we might manage to get an increase in voting.
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Old 2004-03-26, 16:17
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4. the second the tab is posted into the "Pending Tabs" forum, the tab gets locked, cause there's no need for it to get a comment there, just look it up in the home page to comment and vote.


isn't the entire point of the pending tabs page to comment on the tabs??

frankly, i don't give a fuck if people rate my tabs or not, i know thier good enough, thats why they're posted.
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Old 2004-03-26, 22:23
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I thought the point of "Pending" tabs was to first see if it wasn't stolen, then if it's relatively long enough to be a sufficient tab. That's sorta what pending is right? Waiting to be decided or settled...likely to happne soon? Then it gets put up on the site.

why wouldn't you give a fuck?! Heh, your posts on the first page of this thread tell me otherwise....
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"REQUIRES a vote BEFORE you leave the tab, that way you WILL get a sufficient amount of votes.....sorta like paying for a porn site, but getting the free trial..."

That would be a bad idea. How many people download a tab and play it on the spot? Most people I know of print it out and play it at a later date. It would generate inaccurate feedback.
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Old 2004-03-27, 06:42
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Sometimes, I play the tabs straight away, before leaving feedback. But that's just me, I can't speak for everyone.
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Old 2004-03-27, 12:32
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Yeah I always tab out my song to the fullest extent of my hearing. I do the absolute best i can and i dont tab it out till I figure it out, and then I check by playing it through.
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Old 2004-03-27, 21:03
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hahahahaha, that...had nothing at all to do with the current conversation.
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Old 2004-03-28, 12:03
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shit i didnt realize there was another page. My bad
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Old 2004-03-28, 16:46
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why wouldn't you give a fuck?! Heh, your posts on the first page of this thread tell me otherwise....


alright alright, i ONLY care about the rating if those bastards give me a low one for no reason. sure its nice to see good ratings, but its not completely needed, unless its something along the lines of the powertabs rating system that inverted linked to earlier in the thread.
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Old 2004-03-28, 20:42
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well I think they matter, if there are about 3-4 tabs of every song.
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Old 2004-03-29, 06:02
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well I think they matter, if there are about 3-4 tabs of every song.


Yeah, it's a pain in the neck looking through 3 or 4 tabs and deciding which is the best one. If you're not bothered about the accuracy and know you can correct the tab anyway, then it doesn't matter so much which tab you click on. But beginners or less advanced players will definitely find that a ratings system makes thier tab search more time efficient.

I'm all for the rating system but I don't think that whether we keep it or not is the debate here. What we need to do is find a way to increase the number of accurate votes. From reading through, the idea that seems to be unanimous is that voting should only be a perk afforded to registered users. So all that needs to be discussed now, is how do we encourage more users to vote for tabs they know?

I still think that maybe the best way of doing this is to associate voting with an increase in quality of the tabs and to present this idea in an increased number of notices (at the top of the Pending Tabs forum and on the tabs themselves). People won't want to submit a half-arsed attempt if they know they're going to get a 1 or 2, therefore raising the quality of tabs on the site.
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I post a lot of unknown underground stuff, which nobody knows...they never vote for my tabs, that's why it's low.

I agree I have stuff which isn't tabbed perfectly, so im busy to redo all the stuff...and let it play by others before I post it.

But most tabs of mine have a low vote, cause many of those guys who barely play for a year, voted a one, cause they can't play at all.

Second I have problem, with writing out the rhytm parts, so if you think some stuff is played more then once... it probably is.
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Old 2004-04-05, 06:21
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Maybe it is good, to make some stuff, that voters which give lower then a 3, should make an explanation why it's so bad...if they don't post it at the voting point, it doesn't count as a vote. The rating system won't add the rating by an empty space.

Probably hard to make, but maybe a solution for all of that!

Lemme know what you all think of the ideA?
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or have it like e-bay, so that tabbers can manage their own tabs, they can respond to poor ratings, or request deletion of low ratings
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I'll try to sum up the proposed changes.
  • Only registered users will be able to vote.
  • The vote may (or must?) be accompanied by a comment.
  • Low ratings with pointless comments like "this tab sux" will be deleted.
  • Advertise voting as proposed by John.
  • One vote/comment per tab per member.
  • No votes for your own tabs.
  • No votes for your competitor's tab (same song).
  • List of voted members per tab.
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