I know, just wanted to clear myself up.

slipknot is not the only shitty (imo) so-called metal band out there, actually, there must be some that are way worse. they only catch a lot of flak because they're in the media and a have a lot of fans.

Anyways, it's kind of a retarded thread, just look at my first reply, I tried to pull something out of anyone here and nobody had a decent reply, untill now. so actually, your reply was more then I expected. The kid's just asking for reasons why slipknot is so hated. everybody is entitled to their own opinion, as in music, as in dressing up, though the risk is you'll get critiqued or slagged off. that's someone else's opinion. Most mentioned here is all stuff you can expect in a slipknot thread, but if you start a let say, Deftones thread, the replies may be less agressive because they're less reasons to hate them.
I think most metalheads just have a problem with slipknot kids running around screaming 'tr00 metal brwaaagh!' and shit like that. I couldn't care less, I like watching people making fools out of themselves (be it slipknot fans, gothics, etc. it's all fun)
I don't have a problem with slipknot, yet, I don't like them and most of their fans can annoy the shit out of me, I can't say their not talented musicians, though I don't like their music. Saying slipknot sucks because their guitarist can't play for shit is an example of something that just doens't fly. their last album has pretty good guitar work even, not that I'm into it, but at least I gave it a listen.

/end of thread

alright ive read all the replys some have points some dont in my selection of mettal i got slipknot under bands that dont suck

I couldn't understand a word of that mess you call a sentence.

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People in general are fucking morons, metal fans or not. It doesn't stop the idiocy from being damned annoying, but it's easier to keep things in perspective when you accept or acknowledge this fact.

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but he used a lot of smilies, so it doesnt matter. hes right

I don't think the backlash against Slipknot is necessarily Slipknot's fault. They have been overexposed and turned into a modern cliche. When contrasted against the currently popular "metal" acts of today ( Godsmack, Korn, etc. ), one can easily see the vast marketing potential, and one can also easily see why your average 14 year old would view this as "extreme brutal metal", or whatever. They strike me as striving so hard to fit a certain image, priding themselves on novelty, that it turns into contrivance and a derivation of themselves. Now as to wether or not the band members themselves are attempting to cater to the "teenybopper" demographic, so to say, I find it difficult to believe that a band throwing around human feces on stage/lighting each other on fire is out to win friends among the general populace.

But still, as a whole I believe the Slipknot catalogue has a lackluster glow compared to what we might call "real" metal.

this is true mostly for their first album, their second album is a more basic metal sound (eg less rap) and the new album, goddamn, is a halirious attempt to acheive a truer sound

one more thing about nu-metal in general, at least modern "popmetal" is better than that of the 80's

No it ain't.

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People hate Slipknot because their first album sucks. I first heard "Iowa", and I really liked it, its much heavier and better than their first album. When I heard their fist album i didn't like it that much. The new album is brilliant because they have almost no DJ shit, and they have solos.

nobody cares, i dont hate the band, i hate their music, BUT, as it has been stated many times before by various people in this thread, i dont mind them because they are a stepping stone into metal, a gateway drug, if you will, they were prolly the first heavy band i got into, hell i think i still have the burned copy of iowa that i played nonstop for like 2 weeks.

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motley crue, poison, bon jovi, guns'n'roses: possibly.

slayer, metallica, megadeth, testament: fuck off.

he was talking about the "popmetal" of the 80's, like Poison, Wasp, and shit like that.
he wasnt talking about slayer

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godamn, anyone who associates slayer with the term "popmetal" should die
and yes, i meant the "hair metal" genre like bon jovi and ratt, compared to, oh, say kittie and rob zombie