Im a firm beliver that if it wasent for crust punk, then grindcore bands like napalm death woulda never formed... thus influencing death metal. and i only read one post in this topic

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Sorry for this belated response [mostly to john - if i may]

but this is the way to sum up what i think.

metallica, ozzy , whoever, have done theyre thing. weve all respected them some time or another i DID, but know i dont. im just sick of hearing people bitch about how good they are. still.

but either way we are both going to be like - no youre wrong, im right - and so on.

so to draw my CONCLUSION in this debate;
i believe we have payed our dues. im quite over a band that has been around for fifty years, and im not kissing theyre ass for all eternity.

over to you

Therein lies the crux of our last few posts. There's nothing wrong with a good debate (it makes a change that it didn't resort to insults, haha!) but I think we've made our points already so there's no point in re-hashing old posts.

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Well said, case closed!

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