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valvestate 8100. i have one, its alright. i'm guessing it was mainly his x2n.
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2006-06-23, 00:40
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A JCM900 with a tubescreamer would be fine.
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2006-07-15, 18:13
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Agree. Although i too was completely dead set on getting a marshall until i tried them at the store and wasn't impressed. Granted i probably needed someone there to help show me how to dial in the tones. I ended up spending the same amount as i would on a tsl except on something completely different.
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I wanted a Marshall like you wouldn't believe, but when I bought it (DSL100), I was unimpressed. I couldn't find a decent distortion even, with my Boss GT-6. I ended up using 4 cable method and finally found tones I liked. By doing that though, since 4 cable method completely bypasses the preamp, will my tone be the same regardless of what head I use as long as I don't change cabs? |
2006-07-15, 21:57
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You need to sell the head if your are just using the poweramp.If you like the Marshall poweramp sound,pick up a Marshall el34 20/20,and spend the rest on a decent preamp.Or,get a completely new amp.
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2006-07-15, 22:26
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I know this sound like blasphemy but the Boss GTs actually has freaking awsome preamp settings. I use the 4 cables method with my GT-8 ( firmware version 1.03 ) and a Randall Cyclone. I use the Cyclone preamp 70% of the time with my primary patches but the GT switches to use its own preamps seamlessing. I like tube amps but solid state has come a long way lately.
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2006-07-15, 23:32
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I know this sound like blasphemy but the Boss GTs actually has freaking awsome preamp settings. I use the 4 cables method with my GT-8 ( firmware version 1.03 ) and a Randall Cyclone. I use the Cyclone preamp 70% of the time with my primary patches but the GT switches to use its own preamps seamlessing. I like tube amps but solid state has come a long way lately.
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Yea, I would give it about 10 more years until SS overtakes tubes in the tone department.
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2006-07-16, 00:51
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Yea, I would give it about 10 more years until SS overtakes tubes in the tone department.
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i'd say much longer...
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2006-07-16, 01:00
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Yea, I would give it about 10 more years until SS overtakes tubes in the tone department.
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We will wait and see...but I doubt that one.
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2006-07-16, 02:28
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More and more hybrids I think will be the case.
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2006-07-16, 04:22
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Yea, I would give it about 10 more years until SS overtakes tubes in the tone department.
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Tell that to my SE and Cobra.
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Yea we'll just have to wait and see. It will have to happen at some point because eventually the European companies that make tubes will stop making them, unless the guitar amplifier business is big enough. I just hope companies dont go hybrid crazy, unless of course they make a hybrid that actually makes sense (SS preamp, tube poweramp).
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once someone EMP's us, we'll be forced to use tubes.
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2006-07-16, 18:16
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Theres always that. 
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2006-07-16, 18:26
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there will always be tube purists. i will be one of them. and i will do anything to make sure that i have my goddamned tubes and not some shitty three prong piece of plastic made by some poor ass three year old in malaysia.
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2006-07-16, 18:30
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Yea we'll just have to wait and see. It will have to happen at some point because eventually the European companies that make tubes will stop making them, unless the guitar amplifier business is big enough. I just hope companies dont go hybrid crazy, unless of course they make a hybrid that actually makes sense (SS preamp, tube poweramp).
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Maybe you don't realize how big the tube amp business is. As the majority of professional guitarists, aswell as an even bigger number of non"pro" guitarists. Are using tube amps and swear by them.
Even in bass rigs there is still a tube market. Aswell as pedals, hybrid amps, even pro recording studios have tube equipment like mic preamps.
As long as music exists, tubes will be in production.
Even the military uses tubes with some equipment.
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I have been wondering about this one.
Is valve production so low and poor nowdays that they cant make better ones than NOS that have been sitting formant for thirty years?
Also Surely theres enough players out there with valve guitar amps for companys to keep making them?
seems odd to me
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2006-07-16, 18:54
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I have been wondering about this one.
Is valve production so low and poor nowdays that they cant make better ones than NOS that have been sitting formant for thirty years?
Also Surely theres enough players out there with valve guitar amps for companys to keep making them?
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The whole NOS thing has a lot of hype around it because you're always going to have the "the older the better" people that swear by vintage amps and NOS tubes.
To me its not a matter of better or worse, just different. There are tons and tons of awesome tubes still in production.
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2006-07-16, 21:55
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Maybe you don't realize how big the tube amp business is. As the majority of professional guitarists, aswell as an even bigger number of non"pro" guitarists. Are using tube amps and swear by them.
Even in bass rigs there is still a tube market. Aswell as pedals, hybrid amps, even pro recording studios have tube equipment like mic preamps.
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Well that would be great. I hope tubes never go out of production. My bass amp is a Mesa hybrid and I wouldnt trade it for the world. I love my JJ's.
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