2004-12-28, 01:09
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because the blue voodoo doesnt sound like a mesa or marshall at all, so that might be somebody else's idea of great tone.
and if you think that mesa and marshall are the best you need to play more amps..
not really... i think you're reffering to the common "tone is in the fingers" phrase...
to me it's much overrated. people think they can play through any setup and sound good... WRONG! steve via can not get loads of gain into a jc 120 just from his fingers...
in conclusion, your fingers are only part of the "tone equation". i'd say the rig is just as important if not more sometimes.
sure i could probably get good tones from that rig... i'd rather use the head's distortion than the metal master simply because it's better.. i don't know how anybody can stand those peice of crap pedals.. but i would much rather play a good setup and get even better tones.
but the way you described his tone as if were DA BOMB seemd a bit funny to me...
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I don't think there is any safe way out of this discussion for me.
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2004-12-28, 02:51
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No, there really isnt. I suppose the best way to go about is:
1:Admit you're wrong and drop it.
2:Respectfully agree to disagree.
Id suggest #2 because that just seems better, people disagree all the time. You're still cool john, and that guy could have great tone, but since i wasnt there, i dont know.
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2004-12-28, 14:17
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it's cool dude... you kept your cool...
and it's not neccisarrily that you're wrong about everything either, good tone is all in your head 
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2004-12-28, 21:50
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The last thing we want is a typical "fuck-you" flame war, because then we won't be able to converse about amplifiers and guitar equipment, we'll be too busy "fuck-you-ing" each other.
I'd say number 2 : The guy really did have a great sound, not just for the equipment he was using, but objectively for the sound itself. My first impression having just entered the venue was that his amplification was probably a solid-state with a tube pre-amp, or digital, at the least. To see the 700$ Full Stack Special from Crate on the stage was a bit of a shock ( "Wait ... he's not supposed to get that sort of sound ..." ).
What I think we can all agree on is this : spending no more than 2,000$ on an entire rig ( guitar + amplifier caught at ideal prices, preferably half of list price), one can get a good sound, a fortiori, if he is a great player. But he will sound even better once he decides to upgrade to a VHT or an ENGL. Or at least a Marshall, for christ's sake.
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2004-12-29, 02:21
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agreed, thank you for adressing the issue in a positive way, and keeping it about gear.
Staying on topic, a good DM amp would have to be the Ampeg Vh-140c.
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