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Old 2008-05-15, 10:42
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Included i have given this chart that i made that took awhile to find the information i needed. Before you read and look at this chart you need to start working on circle of 5ths. I've found that is the stepping stone to get anywhere. YOU NEED TO KNOW THE FUCKING KEYS. Start with a couple of them. C, G, D, A, F, Bb. Start there then move out. Make sure you know them before moving on. I can't stress this enough. When i picked up sax i forced myself to learn these keys in particular it paved the way big time and i'm thankful i put in enough memorizing hours.

Since you will be playing guitar don't learn shapes. I'm telling you, don't do it that way. Learn it by the notes of the scale. I don't know how much theory you have learned but from now on unless you are talking about a particular offball scale always refer to scales by the diatonic names. C major = (C, D, E, F, G, A, B)
not B#, D, Fb, F, G, A, Cb. It overly complicates and retards the ability to memorize. There IS a reason why C# is not the same thing as Db. I don't care what anybody says. Its not the same thing, except as an individual frequency.

This relates to mode formulas and chords. (go to the bottom to get the chart and read along)
How to read this document:
On the left side is the listing of modes, (i have included a few scales at the bottom). On the left side tells you their position in the major scale, the letter that corresponds to them from the C major scale and then it tells you the formula of how to make that mode FROM the ionian mode.

The key thing is to know the formulas. I swear by these things now. You first start off with you ionian mode of whatever key you want to do. Lets say D major. It has an F# and a C# in the ionian. (major). Say we want to play a D Aeolian mode. Its formula is 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, b6, b7, 8. So.. apply that formula to the ionian mode where the numbers correspond to the position of the notes.
D Ionian
1 = D
2 = E
3 = F#
4 = G
5 = A
6 = B
7 = C#
8 = D

D Aeolian
1 = D
2 = E
3b = F
4 = G
5 = A
b6 = Bb
b7 = C
8 = D

With guitar playing its much easier to learn the shapes of the modes then move it around. I kind of think that is a bad habit to get into as you end up not getting the full effect and knowledge of how its all built together, almost rendering you useless if you're actually trying to apply music theory.

Well back to the chart. The top left series is by their position in the major scale while the one below it is in terms of BRIGHTNESS. (look at their formulas, notice how the top one has all regular positions AND a sharp, then after that they go downwards by adding flats to the scale)

Next is the right hand side which (trust me this is a gem.) This is a basic listing of the scales you can use with the different chords. If you have a Cmaj7 chord you can play C ionian, C lydian, and C Mixolydian scales.

Thats pretty progressive trust me. The only ones i've even used is ionian, mixolydian and dorian. The rest i've kind of thrown to the way side. Except maybe Lydian and Aeolian. I'll eventually get to that. But the ones i use when i see these chords i know exactly what scale i can play.

Maj, Maj7 = Ionian
min, min7 = Dorian
7 = Mixolydian

This is a basic overview of how Circle of 5ths (keys), Modes, and Chords fit together. And yes you are right, they all fit together extremely cohesively.
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