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metal=life 2003-10-18 21:16

Philosophy
 
Philosophy is fuckin' awsome. Discuss some of your thoughts about life..

I found out that when you die, your brain stays alive for about 10 seconds. An 8 second dream can seem like a lifetime. When you die, that 10 second lucid dream could be another life you live. Think about it, its heavy shit. You could be dreaming right now from a different life. I don't believe in reincarnation or anything but I do believe in dreams and I know they can be real as fuck.


Sounds dumb if you don't comprehend it but I enjoy philosophy and it can really make you think.

CarnivorousWind 2003-10-18 22:23

I hate to think.

soulterashaun 2003-10-18 22:26

Re: Philosophy
 
Quote:
Originally posted by metal=life
I don't believe in reincarnation or anything but I do believe in dreams and I know they can be real as fuck.


Beliefs are the death of thinking.

powersofterror 2003-10-18 23:08

Did you just make that up??

anxiety for the future is a source for evolution...
who here thinks there is a such thing as evolution. I do, but I know people who don't.

far_beyond_sane 2003-10-19 00:06

Re: Philosophy
 
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Originally posted by metal=life
I found out that when you die, your brain stays alive for about 10 seconds.


It makes it hard to define death as 'the absence of cognitive function' if you think the brain stays working after you die. Likewise, 'clinically dead' is the absence of brain function.

So, what the hell are you talking about?

corroded 2003-10-19 00:59

when in doubt, use hammer

BeastOfCarrion 2003-10-19 01:33

Re: Philosophy
 
Quote:
Originally posted by metal=life
Philosophy is fuckin' awsome. Discuss some of your thoughts about life..

I found out that when you die, your brain stays alive for about 10 seconds. An 8 second dream can seem like a lifetime. When you die, that 10 second lucid dream could be another life you live. Think about it, its heavy shit. You could be dreaming right now from a different life. I don't believe in reincarnation or anything but I do believe in dreams and I know they can be real as fuck.


Sounds dumb if you don't comprehend it but I enjoy philosophy and it can really make you think.


does this mean that i can spend 10 seconds whenn i die thinking WHY THE FUCK DID I OPEN THIS??????

Chad 2003-10-19 02:08

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does this mean that i can spend 10 seconds whenn i die thinking WHY THE FUCK DID I OPEN THIS??????


HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! That ruled!
Metal=life, when you say you believe in dreams, do you mean you believe they can foresee the future, that they are a real universe/dimension or something else? I think dreams are just gibberish from your day all messed together. And Powers, I believe in evolution 100%. And the people I have met who don't (yes, in the year 2003, there are some people who don't) usually don't for religious reasons, or they just say in a football player / Neanderthalesque voice "Why the fuck should I, no one was around then any ways, and I heard that scientists don't have any evidence of it either. It's just as valid as any other theory. Stupid science!" Then after they wipe the drool coming from the left side of their mouth, they go off dragging their knuckles. I have more respect for those who do not believe in evolution for religious reasons than out of just pure ignorance, as long as they are not trying to get evolution banned from schools. I have also noticed it is mainly (only?) those of a Christian faith who oppose evolution, even though Muslims and Jews have nearly the same creation story.

Dyldo 2003-10-19 02:57

I love philosophy. Infact, I just picked up two philosophy books today - "Socrates in 90 minutes" and "Plato, not prozac".

Metal=life: What you're talking about (living in a dream) is discussed by (I believe, correct me if I am wrong) Aristotle who dissmised that comment but stating that in a dream state, you cannot physically feel and also the fact that you can not doubt in a dream. Or in other words "I doubt there for I am".

I'd also like to correct Chad in the fact that the religion of Christianity cannot be judged by a few people you know or have talked to. The Christian religion actualy supports evolution, but through God. They believe not that we evoloved from a single celled bactiria, but that animals evolve physically and mentally to adapt to their surroundings (proven) but they only can give birth to the same species.

I believe that evolution is true, thtough which a species can only give life to that same species. The thought that we have evolved in this short amount of time from a bacteria cell is exteremly far fetched, and I think that (for athiests) to believe in that is more ubsurd than to believe in a god. Also, if you take a look at the tree of evolution...it seems alitle bogus. It shows that the gorilla and the mushroom have a direct relation.

For those that are curious about philosophy I suggest the book "The Ideas of Great Philosphers". It covers a mass majority of the greatest philosophers and their ideas. It also explains the diffrent types of philosophys (Relgion, Metaphysics, Espitimology, Utitilitarinism, and shit loads more) and their schools. Because like Metal=life said, It gets you fucking thinking! And how it does!

Dyldo 2003-10-19 03:08

While reading a mycology book on hallucenagenic mushrooms I came across this interesting fact. Plato, Socrates, Homer, and some other various philosophers/writers/mathematicians proticipated in secret hallucenagenic mushroom ceremonies often in Greece. Bahaha, some of the smartest men alive where shroom heads.

Chad 2003-10-19 03:35

Darko, I did not mean sound like I was judging all Christians. I know that most of them do accept the theory of evolution. I was just talking about the reasons some people do not support it.

Def 2003-10-19 06:24

metal=life, I hope you die and can post feedback in those last 10 seconds.

that would be rad.

Disciple 2003-10-19 06:49

Re: Philosophy
 
Quote:
Originally posted by metal=life
I found out that when you die, your brain stays alive for about 10 seconds. An 8 second dream can seem like a lifetime. When you die, that 10 second lucid dream could be another life you live. Think about it, its heavy shit. You could be dreaming right now from a different life. I don't believe in reincarnation or anything but I do believe in dreams and I know they can be real as fuck.


Sounds dumb if you don't comprehend it but I enjoy philosophy and it can really make you think.



Yeah,but what if you die crushed by a 10ton rock falling on you? Your brain is splattered,so it can't stay alive for 10 seconds...

Or same thing,but this time you get a shotgun shot in the face and your brain splatters out of the back of your head,where are your 10 seconds?

Or same thing,but you're a soldier minding his own business when a bomb is dropped on him.Bye bye brain...

I don't know,the 10 seconds theory sounds kinda crappy to me...

The Doctor 2003-10-19 08:06

hmm, i just started to follow philosophy classes at school this year, it seemed pretty neat but i could care less to be honest

warnerve92 2003-10-19 08:31

Yeah its got me thinking. WHat if you became dead next to a book????????

powersofterror 2003-10-19 13:04

Most of our famous poets were drug addicts too:rolleyes:. I believe in both sides of the evolution thing to an extent. It it kinda fucked up how, everything came from a single cell....yet, it's also a little bogus if we just appeared. Hmmm, maybe we should just think evolution to be a rhetorical question...a thousand year old question that will never had an answer. I also believe that in our technology quest we missed an important detail; and with that detail, are the answers to rhetorics. Can you just think about that?? One flaw...that made us lead to imperfection. Of what is "logical" or "illogical."

L,B'XXX 2003-10-19 15:57

I'm a Christian and I believe in evolution. Who knows how long a day was when the world began and how God developed all the creatures that existed or exist now. I don't for a minute think he went BAM I made a tree and BAM there's a fish. That's ridiculous. Maybe when I die I'll find out. That would be cool.

I also believe in dreams of prophesy. Paranormal existence because several people in my family, including myself, have experienced them.

As far as the drug thing goes, it hasn't been that long ago that most of the less chemically created drugs were in common use for medical reasons. Poe being the best example I can think of. To have a writer of his substance preserving his thoughts was amazing. I think the opiates gradually building up in his system became a great part of his imagination.

And most of you guys are pretty intelligent. Have you heard of the modern astronomer, Carl Sagan? He had a great show on back in the early '80's called "Cosmos". A top notch astronomer and he periodically smoked pot, too. He's my biggest argument when people say potheads are lowlifes. And his wife was the V.P. of NORML, too. There's use and abuse in many things.

I think philosophy is fascinating though. And you guys are so smart !!

powersofterror 2003-10-19 18:54

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Originally posted by L,B'XXX
........And you guys are so smart !!

:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
We're the most ignorant species alive.

metal=life 2003-10-19 20:21

I don't know if its exactly 10 seconds that your brain functions after you're alive but It's proven that it doesnt die instantly. Unless you are struck in the dead which crashes your brain but most people don't die that way. All I'm sayin is that you can be put into a dream after you die which seems like a life time. Look up what a lucid dream is and how the brain functions before you reply to this post as a lie.



Or get off the dreaming subject and post your views on philosophy. Its really interesting. I suggest the movie Waking Life to get your mind more open. If you don't like thinking, don't post

powersofterror 2003-10-19 21:29

There's this new book out about the movie Matrix, and the philosophy that goes with it. Anyone seen or read it? It's called...
The Matrix and Philosophy: Welcome to the desert of the real. Edited by William Irwin.
It's not that bad, you guys should check it out.


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