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Def 2010-06-03 04:36

Put your hands up if you're a vinyl addict!
 
*puts left hand up* (holding beer in right)

So yeah, who's into vinyl here?

I was just wondering since I'm hooked to vinyl.

I know, it's not the most practical medium to store music on but it has a certain vibe that is just awesome.

Especially with music that was meant to be heard on vinyl, like the 1957 Louis Armstrong record I'm listening now. It sounds so much better then the digital version.

Don't get me wrong, I have an iPod and use it a lot. In my car, on my bike, in the train, everywhere. I have my computer hooked up with an optical cable to my amp with build-in DAC converter. Great way to listen to downloaded content. I rip all my CD's in FLAC or apple losless format for the best quality. It took me ages but I ripped all my cd's, those are now locked up in the basement.

Anyways, back to vinyl! I have a small collection (about 200 records) and I borrow records from my girlfriend, who has a fuckload of them. My own stuff ranges from very early Anthrax, DIO, Ratt to rock like Whitesnake, Van den Berg and some old jazz/blues.

I love finding places to buy vinyl, this week I walked into an store that sold used books and the guy had thousands of records in the back. Just stacked in boxes. I took an hour to search through a few of them and bought about ten records for two bucks a piece. I'll be back at that place again, that's for sure!

I'm currently listening to vinyl on a vintage Philips deck through a Marantz Pm75 amplifier and Linn Keilidh speakers.

So, who's into vinyl? What stuff do you listen? And what gear do you use?

Wolfsherz 2010-06-03 04:47

YYYYYYYYYYYES

Amadeus 2010-06-03 05:31

Hand in the air.

The crown jewels probably are da original Black Sabbath and recordings of Serenade 13 by Mozart and La forza del destino Overture by Verdi conducted by the man Karajan himself.

I've got a real old stereo, Sharp, that I nicked from my parents when I left home. It's probably the Hi-Fi equivalent of a gurgling Ford from the sixties, but it has a vinyl player so I'll hang on to it until it disintegrates into its constituent components.

Def 2010-06-03 06:18

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Originally Posted by Amadeus
Hand in the air.

The crown jewels probably are da original Black Sabbath and recordings of Serenade 13 by Mozart and La forza del destino Overture by Verdi conducted by the man Karajan himself.

I've got a real old stereo, Sharp, that I nicked from my parents when I left home. It's probably the Hi-Fi equivalent of a gurgling Ford from the sixties, but it has a vinyl player so I'll hang on to it until it disintegrates into its constituent components.


Nice, I still need some Verdi! I have some Mozart, Vivaldi and Handel. Classic music helps me concentrate in a weird way. I think I read a scientific study about classic music and helping epileptics concentrate. Guess it works for me too ;)

I spotted an old Thorens pickup in a shop a while back, lots of vinyl-fans swear by Thorens. Have heard one but I wasn't too impressed.. I went into an audiophile store a while back where they had a Transrotor player there.

http://rimake.de/assets/images/Transrotor_203.jpg

Looked awesome. Had an awesome pricetag as well! (150.000 USD! :eek: )

Amadeus 2010-06-03 08:30

Jeez, is that thing meant for playing records, or simply strangle you in your sleep, suck your brain out through your nose and replace it with its own self produced sentient offspring?
But, it's nice that they're still producing the technology for using vinyl. Properly handled they'll last far longer than any factory engraved CD.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it could be shown under controlled circumstances that classical music has measurable effects. I've found both classical music and death metal in conjunction with advanced math to be downright narcotic.

Gomli 2010-06-03 08:42

I`d love to have a vinyl player. That`d be badass, I just need the Apocalyptic Raids lp`s :D

Def 2010-06-03 12:20

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Originally Posted by Amadeus
Jeez, is that thing meant for playing records, or simply strangle you in your sleep, suck your brain out through your nose and replace it with its own self produced sentient offspring?
But, it's nice that they're still producing the technology for using vinyl. Properly handled they'll last far longer than any factory engraved CD.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if it could be shown under controlled circumstances that classical music has measurable effects. I've found both classical music and death metal in conjunction with advanced math to be downright narcotic.


Ah yes, they're even producing entry-level audiophile grade turntables for people on a budget nowadays. That's the great thing about a medium that has been developed for ages. (turntables like the Pro-Ject Debut III Esprit and Rega P1)

I'm more into the classic stuff, Thorens, Linn, Dual...

It's easy to find a turntable for a few bucks, just walk into a pawn shop or something. Plenty of used items around as well. Though there seems to be a run on Thorens turntables lately..

Ahyeah, check out this link about the psychology behind classical music: http://cognitive-psychology.suite10...classical_music

Amadeus 2010-06-03 13:51

I'm not really much into the technical aspects of vinyl, apart from what I've picked up from DJ friends and then we're talking equipment like Technics 1200, perhaps not what you'd lug home to the living room. Though it would be kinda cool to own something like a SL-1100, just to feel some of the vibe of old Kool Herc himself.
I'm ashamed to say that as far as my own DJ aspirations have gone, I've remained at CD's, DVD's and computer files. And cassette tapes, as a backup. Well, you never know.

It's actually not all that easy to find something decent around here, if you're just looking for something to use at home. It's definitely not something you'd pick up on High street.

Dyldo 2010-06-03 13:53

Yeah, I love vinyl and the whole concept of it.

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Originally Posted by Def
Especially with music that was meant to be heard on vinyl, like the 1957 Louis Armstrong record I'm listening now. It sounds so much better then the digital version.


Absolutely. I've got Louis' Hello, Dolly and it makes me cream my self just thinking about it. Another gem I have is a white, limited 200-print of Ulver's Shadow of the Sun. I had to have it, as that album just sounds like it'd be ripe for vinyl (and it is).

Most of my collection is older jazz and blues with some current music in the mix. Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Arethla Franklin, Edith Piaf, Miles Davis, Chick Corea, etc with some of the more standard Classical stuff strewn throughout. Modern stuff: Couple Judas Priests, Pig Destroyer (Prowler in the Yard, sounds extra smooth), Opeth, B5-2s, etc.

There's a lot of new stuff I'd love to have on vinyl, but its always $20+, and half the fun of vinyl is getting that shit at a 90% discount!

Chris Rezendes 2010-06-03 14:00

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Originally Posted by Def
My own stuff ranges from very early Anthrax, DIO, Ratt to rock like Whitesnake, Van den Berg and some old jazz/blues.

I generally hate hair metal, but there's something about Ratt that I find very entertaining. Maybe they were just better than their contemporaries. A little Motley Crue is okay now and then, too.

Def 2010-06-03 14:09

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amadeus
I'm not really much into the technical aspects of vinyl, apart from what I've picked up from DJ friends and then we're talking equipment like Technics 1200, perhaps not what you'd lug home to the living room. Though it would be kinda cool to own something like a SL-1100, just to feel some of the vibe of old Kool Herc himself.
I'm ashamed to say that as far as my own DJ aspirations have gone, I've remained at CD's, DVD's and computer files. And cassette tapes, as a backup. Well, you never know.

It's actually not all that easy to find something decent around here, if you're just looking for something to use at home. It's definitely not something you'd pick up on High street.


Ah yeah, the Technics SL, they can be considered classics I guess. In the better vinyl stores over here you'll find them when you want to listen to the vinyl that you are intending to buy. They're 'DJ-decks' but they actually got some very good reviews from some audiophiles.

It's not hard to pick up something good here on the used market!

Def 2010-06-03 14:12

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyldo
Yeah, I love vinyl and the whole concept of it.



Absolutely. I've got Louis' Hello, Dolly and it makes me cream my self just thinking about it. Another gem I have is a white, limited 200-print of Ulver's Shadow of the Sun. I had to have it, as that album just sounds like it'd be ripe for vinyl (and it is).

Most of my collection is older jazz and blues with some current music in the mix. Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Arethla Franklin, Edith Piaf, Miles Davis, Chick Corea, etc with some of the more standard Classical stuff strewn throughout. Modern stuff: Couple Judas Priests, Pig Destroyer (Prowler in the Yard, sounds extra smooth), Opeth, B5-2s, etc.

There's a lot of new stuff I'd love to have on vinyl, but its always $20+, and half the fun of vinyl is getting that shit at a 90% discount!


Awesome, I have some Aretha Franklin and Miles Davis that I got from my uncle. Good stuff.

I can imagine Ulver sounds pretty dope on vinyl..

I agree with the new stuff, it isn't fun to dish out 20 bucks a record. It's fun to dish out 20 bucks for 20 records though!!!

JoeYngVai 2010-06-03 14:14

My roommate has a fuckload of vinyls at our apartment. Huge range of stuff from Beatles, Simon & Garfunkle, Floyd, Metallica, Springsteen, and even Supertramp :p

Sounds good on our Bose speakers.

Def 2010-06-03 14:14

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Originally Posted by Chris Rezendes
I generally hate hair metal, but there's something about Ratt that I find very entertaining. Maybe they were just better than their contemporaries. A little Motley Crue is okay now and then, too.


Ah yeah, I have some Motley Crue as well. Plus some Anvil, Poison, Black'n'Blue, Def Leppard, Quiet Riot, Tesla, W.A.S.P. and Twisted Sister.

I just love that shit! About 80% of my vinyl records are hairmetal/80's metal.

L,B'XXX 2010-06-03 14:36

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Originally Posted by Amadeus
But, it's nice that they're still producing the technology for using vinyl. Properly handled they'll last far longer than any factory engraved CD.

True dat. And it doesn't seem to matter if they're bakelite 78's or the vinyl 45's or 33 1/3's. They will last forever if you take care of them.

You guys have mentioned some good older systems. Some from back in my day were Fisher Studio Standard, Kenwood, JVC, Technics. I know there's more, but I'm jogging brain cells here. I've still got a ton of records and a few stereos of various sorts. Most of the Fisher stuff. Be careful of the year though cuz some was trash.

Something to be on the lookout for you might not know about are half speed mastered series. We had DSOTM and Magical Mystery Tour, but there were others -Fleetwood Mac Rumours and Alan Parson's Project - I Robot. What they did was slowed the master disc down so when it recorded it would get more sound on the lp it was recorded to. (I think that's how it went anyways.) But however it was done it produced a sound quality that was above and beyond for nuance. Most albums were about $10 to $15 back in the late 70's. Half speeds were twice that. The ones that are will say so somewhere on the cover, but check to make sure the album inside isn't a replacement.

I've still got cassettes I taped in the 70's that I still play. 8tracks floating around somewhere, but not many and I don't like the way they were formatted. I could kick my own butt for giving a reel to reel to Goodwill ages ago. So yeah, I've been through all types of recorded media.

BE GOOD TO YOUR NEEDLES!! And always handle by the edges. Take off the plastic on the cover if it's still there unless it's unopened. Leave it alone if it is. It's worth more that way.

Amadeus 2010-06-03 14:45

Wehey, quite some turnout here. Though I'm not surprised; hip-hoppers (NOT the shit you see on MTV) and metalheads always seem to a special affinity for vinyl.

Yea, all I've ever gotten to know are from the DJ-lines, so. I even had the chance to try out some scratching at a cypher once. If I sucked at it? Yea, I sucked at it.

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Originally Posted by Def
Ah yeah, I have some Motley Crue as well. Plus some Anvil, Poison, Black'n'Blue, Def Leppard, Quiet Riot, Tesla, W.A.S.P. and Twisted Sister.

I just love that shit! About 80% of my vinyl records are hairmetal/80's metal.


Dude... no...

Speaking of which, Steel Panther needs to do a release on vinyl. That'd be ten types of awesome, just for the hell of it.
Record some of their music on a vinyl record is what I meant to say! No Paddy, no foregone conclusions, I beg you!
But yea.

Def 2010-06-03 15:14

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Originally Posted by L,B'XXX

BE GOOD TO YOUR NEEDLES!! And always handle by the edges. Take off the plastic on the cover if it's still there unless it's unopened.


Good tips!

Ohyeah and don't stack a big pile of vinyl albums on top of each other.. These fuckers can warp. Put them in an upright position.

I've seen a vinyl cleaning machine a few weeks ago. Anyone have experience with those?

L,B'XXX 2010-06-03 15:25

Describe? All I've ever known was soft cloth and spray. It was mostly to get dust off, I think.

Dyldo 2010-06-04 14:34

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Originally Posted by L,B'XXX
Something to be on the lookout for you might not know about are half speed mastered series. We had DSOTM and Magical Mystery Tour, but there were others -Fleetwood Mac Rumours and Alan Parson's Project - I Robot. What they did was slowed the master disc down so when it recorded it would get more sound on the lp it was recorded to. (I think that's how it went anyways.) But however it was done it produced a sound quality that was above and beyond for nuance. Most albums were about $10 to $15 back in the late 70's. Half speeds were twice that. The ones that are will say so somewhere on the cover, but check to make sure the album inside isn't a replacement.


I had no idea about that and am now really fucking intriqued to hear that. My mother has a copy of Magical Mystery Tour and I have Rumors so I'll be sure to check if its the half-speed mastered series.

Paddy 2010-06-04 14:48

Ya old fucks! The last time I saw vinyl it was strapped to a dyke's gut and was gliding smoothly into a puckered body cavity.

A friend of mine has a shit-load of Metallica vinyls, although I don't think he has a record player. My lil' cousin is currently looking for Rolling Stones vinyls on eBay, and again she's yet to actually buy a player haha.

If you ever want to recapture that old timy sound but can't afford the gear and the collectors' prices, just load up this baby:

http://www.winamp.com/plugin/izotope-vinyl/39214

You vinyl aficionados can let me know how well this plugin works; I have no frame of reference! I honestly haven't heard a vinyl record since I was about 5-years-old, and I think that was an Elton John album.

*shudders*


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