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WarFreak131 2009-07-05 12:57

Achieving Dave Ellefson's tone
 
I want to get the same tone that Ellefson uses in Peace Sells. I own his signature Peavey bass and I have effects software at my disposal (it does a bunch of different things like delay, reverb, compression, modulation, EQ, as well as many different amps and heads). I can come somewhat close to the tone, but I just cannot nail the right combination of effects and tone adjustments to get it right. For reference purposes, his bass during Peace Sells sounds like this.

http://www.imeem.com/people/1OGUvME...ace-sells-bass/

blitz906 2009-07-05 22:09

I posted this in another thread, and decided to post it here to help you understand why it's usually difficult to get the exact same tone somebody else has.
Quote:
Originally Posted by blitz906
Besides, isn't it kind of pointless telling other people your tone settings? Certain tone settings can sound different in so many different situations and under different circumstances. Someone with a tube amp will get a much different sound than someone with a solid-state amp. Someone with flatwound or half-wound strings will get a different sound than someone using roundwound strings. Speaker size and cabinet type also make a huge difference. Not to mention room dynamics... an amp will sound MUCH different in a garage than it will in a carpeted/drywalled room. And one of the ultimate factors in tone shaping; picks vs fingers, which yield two completely different sounds. Also, sometimes tone is all in how you play. For example, if you somehow had access to the gear that Jaco Pastorius used to own, and plugged his bass into his amp, and used the exact same tone settings JUST as he had left them when he last touched it 22 years ago, you still probably wouldn't get the same sound that he did, because alot of it is how these people play... how hard or soft they pluck the strings, if they grow their fingernails out a little bit, or cut them right down etc, there are so many different factors.

Wolfsherz 2009-07-06 02:57

Yeah but still, the major guidelines would apply.




Say, fur Justin Chancellor, you could get as close as possible on your amp turning up the mids and bass alot, for Interpol you would need a lot of treble and XXXX khz, ...

SO it's not completely useless.

blitz906 2009-07-06 04:42

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfsherz
Yeah but still, the major guidelines would apply.




Say, fur Justin Chancellor, you could get as close as possible on your amp turning up the mids and bass alot, for Interpol you would need a lot of treble and XXXX khz, ...

SO it's not completely useless.

Oh I know, it's not completely useless... but it's impossible to get the exact same tone as another bass player. You can sometimes get quite close, but in the end it usually comes down to personal style and technique.


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