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Midnight Empire 2007-10-26 00:46

What are some good shred guitars
 
I'm basically looking for something that plays very very fast, like a Parker or something. I just don't know where to start. I don't want a signature model or anything like that, just something that is high quality and has a low action.

Sycophant 2007-10-26 01:06

Ibanez & Vigier.

Midnight Empire 2007-10-26 01:23

I've heard Ibanez Gem and RG models are what a lot of shredders go for. I'm just not quite sure yet. I was playing my ESP Viper today and realized that I need something that plays quicker. I know a lot of it is technique when it comes to shred but I feel that a good guitar designed to play fast would make a world of difference.

Me himself 2007-10-26 01:44

Go RG. You simply can't go wrong. They're built specifically for shredding down to the huge lower horn cavity, thin neck (but not too thin, like Jacksons, for example), flowing heel (real comfy), etc.

Soeru 2007-10-26 08:06

I played a RG550 once with the wizard I neck and it enabled me to play faster than on anything else EVER. Get one and pop in some new pickups and you have a guitar with pro sound and playability. Other RG's are great, but try to stick to just the higher end Japanese made ones.

Also look into old Charvel Model 4, 5, and 6 guitars. I own a 5 neckthru and it rules, enormous frets that make shredding a pleasure, plus I got it for 400$. But the neck ain't as thin as an Ibanez though. The new Charvels are great but a little overpriced for a simple bolt on(1 grand) when you can fetch the old 80's Charvel or Jackson Professional neckthru guitars for about half.

Deathmaster213 2007-10-26 09:33

^ +1

The bigger the frets the smoother things will feel shredwise.

Sycophant 2007-10-26 13:20

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soeru
I played a RG550 once with the wizard I neck and it enabled me to play faster than on anything else EVER. Get one and pop in some new pickups and you have a guitar with pro sound and playability. Other RG's are great, but try to stick to just the higher end Japanese made ones.


Amen to that. The neck on my 10 year old RG570 is the best neck I have ever played. I feel like it's MY neck, you know? I've been playing my Schecter C-1 for the past two years but I recently took out my RG and restrang it, and I never had more fun and ease playing. From then on I realized my Schecter wasn't going to be my primary guitar anymore so I bought a Xiphos instead, and I couldn't be happier. The Wizard II neck is fucking awesome.

I was telling Transient this the other day, but I played a Vigier Shawn Lane signature model (totally flat fretboard). OMFG. It was like a Parker and an RG's lovechild. So damn light and flat, like a heroin chic supermodel (but with better tone of course)

Midnight Empire 2007-10-26 15:26

Would a Parker be a good choice for shred? I can't think of any metal guitarists who use Parkers so I'm kind of iffy on getting one. I'm afraid of sacrificing tone for shred-ability. The RG 550 looks killer but I don't think I have the patience to hunt one down, and I'd have to play it before purchasing it, making an e-bay purchase out of the question. Any other RG models worth looking into, specifically ones that are discontinued?

Thanks for all the help guys.

Sycophant 2007-10-26 15:30

Nah you definetly won't be sacrificing any tone by playing a Parker, they're extremely well made guitars. I think it'd be badass using a Parker for extreme shit. As for RG's I'd go with Soeru on this one and get a 550 or a 570 or one of these or these finer RGs. I mean especially for a RGR320EX which is only like $550 (that's how much my RG570 cost back in 1997) and has decent harware AND a Wizard II neck. Can't go wrong with that I think.

Midnight Empire 2007-10-26 15:57

I know Parkers are well made, and I have played a few but I noticed they have a very bright tone. Nothing the neck pickup can't fix though. Anyways, yeah, I think it would be badass to play extreme metal with a Parker. I'll look into those RG models more and see if I can get a feel for them. I'd rather end up with an Ibanez and save $2000 anyways.

Soeru 2007-10-27 02:41

The guys from Akercocke play/played Parker guitars and basses.

Deathmaster213 2007-10-27 05:06

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soeru
The guys from Akercocke play/played Parker guitars and basses.


Beat me to it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnight Empire
I know Parkers are well made, and I have played a few but I noticed they have a very bright tone.


Aren't some (or all) made out of carbon fibre a composite or something?

thedogwave 2007-10-27 14:02

it's been said over and over but the wizard II neck is insanely fast and comfortable. my only complaint about rgs are the frets, i'd like something bigger.

4d5e6f 2007-10-27 16:34

For about $500-600 you could also nab a used RG1570 on Ebay. Nicer than a 550, Japanese made, decent stock pickups, amazingly nice neck, original Edge Pro tremolo, etc. Put some DiMarzios on it and it'll be an incredible experience to play it.

thedogwave 2007-10-27 16:57

very true dude, go with something used if you can get a real edge pro. the licensed ibanez bridges are bad but not as bad as a lot of people make them out to be. if you plan on actually using the trem go for something with a real edge pro on it and not something licensed unless you have a lot of time to fuck with it.

Midnight Empire 2007-10-27 21:34

Thank you all for the recommendations. It means a lot to me. Personally, I hate and kind of floating bridge set up. It's not that I have a thing against whammy bar dives or anything I just hate how long it takes to change strings. So far everyone seems to recommend Ibanez RG series. I think I know what my next guitar will be, regardless of the floating bridge.

4d5e6f 2007-10-27 22:43

You can always just block off the floatingness with blocks of wood or you could get a Tremol-No to more professionally block it off. I use a Tremol-No myself and love it.

7-string warlord 2007-10-28 00:05

I have an RG270, I really don't like it too much. It could be because it is low-end.....My jackson Professional RR3 shreds 800x faster than my Ibanez.

Soeru 2007-10-28 03:24

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4d5e6f
You can always just block off the floatingness with blocks of wood or you could get a Tremol-No to more professionally block it off. I use a Tremol-No myself and love it.


+1 get a tremol-no. Changing strings on a floyd is really not a hassle at all but if you want to save time I'd suggest you get the Tremol-no with the guitar. I really don't know of a great deal of fixed bridge shred guitars. There are a lot of ESP's and Schecters with fixed bridges but I wouldn't call them shred guitars at all, almost all shred guitars I know have a trem. :p

MetalThrashingMad 2007-10-28 10:28

Quote:
Originally Posted by Midnight Empire
I know Parkers are well made, and I have played a few but I noticed they have a very bright tone. Nothing the neck pickup can't fix though. Anyways, yeah, I think it would be badass to play extreme metal with a Parker.

Really? How in the hell can you play death metal on a parker? I've played a few of them, and they feel like something you would buy at KB Toys to me. Just my opinion though.

In my experiences, Parkers and Vigiers don't really play that fast... I was gonna say a nice Ibanez RG or a USA Jackson V or KE2


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