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4d5e6f 2007-07-07 20:39

Zero Position On A Tremolo
 
How do I know what the correct zero position for my tremolo is? It's an Edge Pro. I've heard that it needs to be parallel with the body, but the tremolo piece itself has kind of an angle to it. It has a little line on the side of it, is this what I use for my guide in making it parallel? It's currently set so the line is parellel to the body, but then the rest of the tremolo doesn't look completely parallel. Sorry, if I had a camera I'd take some pictures to illustrate my question better. Maybe somebody with an Edge here can help me.

k13m 2007-07-08 04:40

the bottom edge of the trem should be paralell (leaving the upper edge on a slight angle.

Deathmaster213 2007-07-08 05:57

Yeah, Edge trems have the knife edge pivot plate set into the actual body of the tremolo, and thats what I use as a guide to check if it's parallel to the body.

4d5e6f 2007-07-08 13:54

Quote:
Originally Posted by k13m
the bottom edge of the trem should be paralell (leaving the upper edge on a slight angle.

By bottom edge, you mean the side closer to the strings, right? I just want to make sure I have things perfect before I install my Tremol-No and lock down the bridge.

Deathmaster213 2007-07-09 17:31

I think by bottom edge he means the actual bottom of the tremolo body.

Photo

The bottom of that should be parallel to the top of the body. You can see the slant of the top of the trem, if you make this level to the guitar body, the trem will be leaning back.


Oh, and Google threw this up... you can try it in future :smash:

www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/angle.htm

k13m 2007-07-10 02:28

sry my explanations are kinda weird sumtimes lol, this should clear things up i hope


EDIT: also note that the ''bottom edge'' is on a 90 degree angle to the heel block (that thing on the bottom of the trem unit) if you would make the upper edge paralell to the body then the heel block wouldnt be on a 90 de3gree angle inside the body, making the reach of the tremolo somewhat smaller than optimal.

4d5e6f 2007-07-10 14:02

Seems like as long as I have that grey line on the Edge parallel to my guitar body, I should be fine since the line is parallel to the bottom of the Edge. Right?

I have my tremol-no installed already, so I'm not too concerned with getting my tremolo in perfect alignment now. But I do have a question. The tremol-no is completely locked, but if I strike a note and watch my tuner, and while the note is sustaining, push back on the bridge (like what you could do with a tremolo to raise the pitch), the note still raises in pitch slightly. Is this slight (I can't even visually percieve it except for on the tuner) give in the locked tremolo normal?

Deathmaster213 2007-07-11 05:15

Your trem should be level so that the action at the higher frets is optimal, if for nothing else.

If it's set up and locked correctly with the Tremolo-No then you may it sorts out this abilty to still push the trem down. I haven't actually played aroudn with one, but as I remember the design, I can't see why this would be happening.

If the push is inperceptible ona tuner then I wouldn't worry about it :)

4d5e6f 2007-07-11 12:21

It is percieveable on a tuner, that's the problem. It's not percieveable without a tuner. It still bothers me that it happens, though.

Valtiel 2007-07-11 19:27

I have a tremol-no in one of my PRS', it shouldnt be doing that. It may be slipping a little bit in which case you may need to tighten the little set screw on the claw that attaches to the block. But not too much.

4d5e6f 2007-07-11 21:11

I have a newer tremol-no that doesn't have the claw that attaches to the block. Mine has a pin that inserts into the spring hole.

Valtiel 2007-07-12 13:11

Yea thats the one I have too. When I said claw I just meant the little metal piece that sits on the front of the block. Check out the video on tremolno.com, you can check your installation against the video to make sure everything was done right.


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