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Zombietime 2006-10-14 12:52

Ampeg SS140c - can it do what I want? (CCorpse, Suffocation)
 
I'm getting back into making music after a long break and I like the recent Cannibal Corpse tone and pretty much all of Suffocation's sound. I used to have a Randall RH100 which I thought was pretty good for what I play but i'd like to try something different. I've heard a lot about the Ampeg VH140c but I found a SS140c for sale near me. Any comments on this amp?

I've also been looking at a Crate GX-130C. :)

DeathCS 2006-10-14 13:14

i think i've played a SS140c before. if i remember correctly, it was pretty decent.

Zombietime 2006-10-14 13:24

Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathCS
i think i've played a SS140c before. if i remember correctly, it was pretty decent.


How would it compare to the Randall RH100 I used to have? If you're familiar with the Randall anyway...

Innards-Decay 2006-10-15 15:41

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Originally Posted by Zombietime
How would it compare to the Randall RH100 I used to have? If you're familiar with the Randall anyway...

If I remember correctly the SS-140c uses the same electronics as the VH-140c. The Vh-140c was used on Effigy Of The Forgotten and maybe breeding the spawn, but I know if you want the tone off Peirced, you won't find it in those heads. The 2120 I have can get pretty closed to the peirced sound, but its a bit more defined and kind of mixed with the tone from Symbolic.

Zombietime 2006-10-15 20:47

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Originally Posted by Innards-Decay
If I remember correctly the SS-140c uses the same electronics as the VH-140c. The Vh-140c was used on Effigy Of The Forgotten and maybe breeding the spawn, but I know if you want the tone off Peirced, you won't find it in those heads. The 2120 I have can get pretty closed to the peirced sound, but its a bit more defined and kind of mixed with the tone from Symbolic.


Alright, thanks for the info.

Innards-Decay 2006-10-15 23:08

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Originally Posted by Zombietime
Alright, thanks for the info.

Here's some cds that used it.

Effigy of the Forgotten
Destroy The Opposition
Killing On Adrenaline


I'm sure you can get an awesome tone out of it.

sixsicsix 2006-10-16 16:16

ampeg makes guitar amps?

BLS 2006-10-16 16:48

used to, and they were pretty damn decent too.

Innards-Decay 2006-10-16 17:15

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Originally Posted by BLS
used too, and they were pretty damn decent too.

Yeah, from what I'm told the VH-140c is a really good amp for anything metal.

Zombietime 2006-10-16 18:17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Innards-Decay
Yeah, from what I'm told the VH-140c is a really good amp for anything metal.


Yah that's what I hear. I'm not going to get the SS-140C, i'm going to try and get the VH-140C. May take longer but may as well get what I want.

BLS 2006-10-16 18:41

I'm pretty sure the SS and VH have the same preamps, just different poweramps.. atleast I remember reasing something along those lines on the Harmony Central forums.

sixsicsix 2006-10-16 18:58

dude I havent seen you on here in forever!!
i have a question.
is there a major difference in tone between all tube amps and tube/ss hybrids?

BLS 2006-10-17 02:34

YES.

Most hybrids just have one preamp tube, hell that vox tonelab has one tube that never needs to be change, cause it's never on, it just had a led behind it.

sixsicsix 2006-10-17 18:09

im talking bass though.
most of the bass hybrids have 3 or 4 tubes, and the ones im looking at are all atleast 1000 u.s.
so
IF THE TUBE IS ACTUALLY USED does it sound like an all tube?
or do you need to have tube power also?

Soeru 2006-10-22 05:41

It's going to sound different, obviously more sterile and tight, and you won't be able to get all that much headroom with a SS poweramp combared to a tube one(plus it won't sound as good as a tube PA at very high volumes), but if it's got enough wattage(probably will) it won't matter much plus you're going to end up micing a cab in a live situation anyway.

Innards-Decay 2006-10-22 19:03

Most metal basses use hi wattage SS poweramps, because of the tight response.

Valtiel 2006-10-22 21:19

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsicsix
im talking bass though.
most of the bass hybrids have 3 or 4 tubes, and the ones im looking at are all atleast 1000 u.s.
so
IF THE TUBE IS ACTUALLY USED does it sound like an all tube?
or do you need to have tube power also?


IMO that style of hybrid is a horrible idea for guitar amps but a great idea for basse amps. Id put my M-Pulse up against any tube amp any day.

sixsicsix 2006-11-04 10:08

thanks guys, now I can broaden my horizons.
has anyone played that one genz benz hybrid?
its a dual channel, I think its in the 1200 dollar range, ill look up the exact model later.

CaseyMAN 2006-11-05 01:10

Don't waste your time trying to play CC through a SS Ampeg.. Your just gonna get garbage gain with shitty fizz everywhere.. if you want that.. buy a Metalzone.

If you want a good metal tone.. for a low price.. Just buy a used 5150 or something along those lines.

Zombietime 2006-11-05 01:37

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaseyMAN
Don't waste your time trying to play CC through a SS Ampeg.. Your just gonna get garbage gain with shitty fizz everywhere.. if you want that.. buy a Metalzone.

If you want a good metal tone.. for a low price.. Just buy a used 5150 or something along those lines.


Suffocation has shitty fizzy tone? Don't want another tube amp.


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