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philkilla 2006-07-10 02:34

DIMEBAG's God damn tuning.
 
It is still amazing to me that the majority of modern guitarist STILL do not know how Dime tuned his guitars...yet they still try and play his songs.

He always tuned down a 1/4 step...whether he played in E, D, Drop-D, C#, Drop-C, and/or Octave G (on Underground in America and Sandblasted Skin)

an easy way to achieve this (for me at least :D ) is, I use my Pod XT to tune. Simply switch from A440 HZ to A425 HZ. Than tune like so.

For example, if you tune to E at A425 HZ, it is actually E-Flat, plus a quarter. (when you switch back to A440 and compare of course.)

This was a very big part of dime's sound...and unfortunately has been overlooked quite a bit.

Deathmaster213 2006-07-10 05:14

Megadeth's 'Peace Sells...' was recorded 1/4 down apparently.

Thanks for the insight in how to do it accurately! Dunno why that never occured to me.

Panda 2006-07-10 05:19

im pretty sure everyone who didnt give a damn shit about dimes playing knows this but noone will attempt to use "dimes tuning" for his own work or band. for me its pretty much like using signature guitars etc ... it has been done before. anyways youre right ...if you want to cover pantera songs you have to tune down 1/4 to whatever tuning in order to get the original sound otherwise it will sound shit

The Doctor 2006-07-10 05:31

i think it can also be done using a whammy, using the down-tune option

problematic 2006-07-10 06:20

Did he pay much attention to scales, then?

I mean, are they still relevant?

arvina 2006-07-10 11:28

lots of bands tune down a half step. Even Extream on the first album.

moe_blunts 2006-07-10 11:47

Quote:
Originally Posted by arvina
lots of bands tune down a half step. Even Extream on the first album.


it's half a half step.

philkilla 2006-07-10 11:51

Thank you. I thought that was made blatantly obvious by now.

arvina 2006-07-10 13:36

oh right...im very sorry. didnt read well

Dissection 2006-07-10 15:23

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathmaster213
Megadeth's 'Peace Sells...' was recorded 1/4 down apparently.

Thanks for the insight in how to do it accurately! Dunno why that never occured to me.


yes, but that was due to poor equipment, not on purpose.

MetalThrashingMad 2006-07-10 15:37

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dissection
yes, but that was due to poor equipment, not on purpose.

Right.

I know Killing is My Business is off a quarter step, as well as Dark Angel - Darkness Descends, Wehrmacht - Biermacht, Razor's older stuff, among others. We should start up a sticky tunings thread in the tab questions/requests forum.

ShredtoBed 2006-07-10 18:01

Dimebag just ghetto tuned his guitars (by ear) so thats why theyre all tuned a little bit flat.

Transient 2006-07-10 18:07

even discrepancy from the proper frequency can happen on account of the recordings being sped up or slowed down as well.

travI56669 2006-07-10 18:11

Quote:
Originally Posted by ShredtoBed
Dimebag just ghetto tuned his guitars (by ear) so thats why theyre all tuned a little bit flat.

Nah man he had guitar techs change his strings and all that, he even talked about how it was tradition for him to tune down a 1/4 step... Whatever works...

Transient 2006-07-10 18:14

i bet the bass player in pantera really appreciated that

PST 88 2006-07-10 18:19

They played together for about 20 years. I bet he got used to it at some point. I doubt either one had tuned their own instruments in a decade, anyway.

metalpro 2006-07-10 18:21

Quote:
Originally Posted by problematic
Did he pay much attention to scales, then?

I mean, are they still relevant?


with dimes playing, its so real im thinking he didnt have to worry about scales. more like he did whatever the fuck he wanted, and it worked

MetalThrashingMad 2006-07-10 18:29

Nah, he used a lot of pentatonics and diatonics.

XeroX. 2006-07-10 18:32

cool

btw, how do you know this?

MetalThrashingMad 2006-07-10 18:36

Well, I've played a few of his solos, and I saw that the pattern that Dimebag used matched that of a pentatonic, and sometimes the major / minor scale :homer:


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