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sixsicsix 2007-01-18 22:00

well, here Ill leave you with a sort of half assed quiz
A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#
thats the musical alphabet, your welcome.

belphegor79 2007-01-26 13:57

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Bastard
What about a list of all of the tunings and thier coresponding notes for each string? Like we all know that E tuning is:
E A D G B e,

Eb is obviously
Eb Ab Db Gb Bb eb,

And i personally like C# tuning, which is
C# F# B E G# C#,

could someone fill in the rest of the tunings (D, C, Bb, Ab, etc.) for me?

I don't understand the necessity of this. If you have a guitar tuned to a certain note, it shouldn't be any trouble to figure out what the rest of the strings are.

4d5e6f 2007-01-26 14:16

0 steps down E A D G B e
0.5 steps D# G# C# F# A# D#
1 step D G C F A D
1.5 steps C# F# B E G# C#
2 steps C F A# D# G C
2.5 steps B E A D F# B

Fat Bastard 2007-01-29 12:10

Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsicsix
well, here Ill leave you with a sort of half assed quiz
A, A#, B, C, C#, D, D#, E, F, F#, G, G#
thats the musical alphabet, your welcome.


I thought A# was Bb, and D# was Eb?

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4d5e6f
0 steps down E A D G B e
0.5 steps D# G# C# F# A# D#
1 step D G C F A D
1.5 steps C# F# B E G# C#
2 steps C F A# D# G C
2.5 steps B E A D F# B


What about Bb (A#) and A tuning?

Fat Bastard 2007-01-29 12:18

Quote:
Originally Posted by Greywolfe
how would u tune [C#,F#,B,e,g#,c#] with a standard tuner?


If you have one of those inexpensive Korg GA 20 or 30 tuners, just press "Flat" three times. or you can try to tune by ear, Its just 1.5 steps lower from standard.

TangledMortalCoil 2007-01-29 14:59

I'm bored at work, so I'll try to explain this as clearly as possible.

TUNING DOWN, HOWEVER MANY STEPS:
From the standard tuning of EADGBe, all you have to do is pretend you are moving one more "imaginary" fret to the left for each half-step down. A half-step is one fret, a full-step is two frets.. and that's all! But, since the fretboard does not have these "imaginary" frets because there is a nut and then a headstock at the beginning, you have to tune each string down to accomplish this instead. For example, to tune your heavy E string down a full step, you are making it the equivalent of two imaginary frets lower, or D. Also, this may not be obvious to all beginners, but remember that tuning down means tuning ALL of the strings down, and usually in the same proportion (same number of steps for each string). Yes there are exceptions, the most common being drop-tuning (millions of descriptions of drop-tuning out there, search).

P.S.> You need a *chromatic* tuner! A typical tuner will not recognize alternate tuning (you can trick it, but not worth the effort)

Phlack 2007-01-30 07:47

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Bastard
I thought A# was Bb, and D# was Eb?


That depends if itīs raised or lowered.
In C minor (for example) the third is lowered so it would be Eb, but if you had a D and raised it (as in A lydian) it would be D#.

Fat Bastard 2007-02-12 14:44

Quote:
Originally Posted by TangledMortalCoil
I'm bored at work, so I'll try to explain this as clearly as possible.

TUNING DOWN, HOWEVER MANY STEPS:
From the standard tuning of EADGBe, all you have to do is pretend you are moving one more "imaginary" fret to the left for each half-step down. A half-step is one fret, a full-step is two frets.. and that's all! But, since the fretboard does not have these "imaginary" frets because there is a nut and then a headstock at the beginning, you have to tune each string down to accomplish this instead. For example, to tune your heavy E string down a full step, you are making it the equivalent of two imaginary frets lower, or D. Also, this may not be obvious to all beginners, but remember that tuning down means tuning ALL of the strings down, and usually in the same proportion (same number of steps for each string). Yes there are exceptions, the most common being drop-tuning (millions of descriptions of drop-tuning out there, search).

P.S.> You need a *chromatic* tuner! A typical tuner will not recognize alternate tuning (you can trick it, but not worth the effort)


I understand that, and i think many others do also. I just want to know the names of the notes for each of the coresponding strings, for whatever tuning they may be in.

HAMMERSMASHEDFACE 2007-02-25 14:55

what tuning or tunings did Euronymous of mayhem play in
and what tuning/tunings do Blasphemer use

Darkness-Of-Christ 2007-04-05 10:13

I recently bought a Korg chromatic tuner (CA-30) but am having some difficulty using it. Basically I want to tune to E flat and but don't know if I have to press the calib buttons in order to change the frequency from 440hz to something difefrent. I found this on some website but have no idea what it means:

''The Calibration function (410--480 Hz) supports a wide range of standard pitches, and can be adjusted in 1 Hz steps for accurate and flexible tuning to any song or key.''

Please help!

Phlack 2007-04-07 10:07

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkness-Of-Christ
I recently bought a Korg chromatic tuner (CA-30) but am having some difficulty using it. Basically I want to tune to E flat and but don't know if I have to press the calib buttons in order to change the frequency from 440hz to something difefrent. I found this on some website but have no idea what it means:

''The Calibration function (410--480 Hz) supports a wide range of standard pitches, and can be adjusted in 1 Hz steps for accurate and flexible tuning to any song or key.''

Please help!


Some bands like Pantera for example likes to intentionally tune "wrong" with some hertz, I think they downtunde like 1/4 of a note or something

philkilla 2007-04-08 00:48

yes they did.

Darkness-Of-Christ 2007-04-08 14:57

So do you have to adjust the hertz from 440 when using the tuner to tune down to Eb? That's what I want to know.

Sycophant 2007-04-08 17:04

Not at all.

Darkness-Of-Christ 2007-04-12 20:32

Thank you very much. Now I know, lol.


One last question which I'm hoping one of you can answer.

I'm trying to set the intonation right on my ESP/Ltd EC-500 (string thru body)
but am having problems. When I play the octave E at the 12th fret on the lowest string the note reads flat on my chromatic tuner. So, naturally I moved the saddle towards the pickups to 'shorten' the length of the string and make the note sharp and hence, in tune. But even when I moved the saddle back as far as it could go the note was still very flat and nowhere near in tune. I'm guessing the tuner isn't fucked since it's brand new so what other adjustments can I make or should I take it to a qualified guitar tech.?

Unanything 2007-07-19 20:03

I guess it doesn't really matter now, because we all seem to know better anyhow, but why didn't someone Zerton' in the first place by saying that there are in fact 12 notes in the chromatic series and that he out missed out G#?

11-note microtonal chromatic series? Hmmm... Like that funky series you get on the Gamelan. Or J.P. Thesseling's 72-note series bass.

belphegor79 2007-07-19 22:57

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phlack
Some bands like Pantera for example likes to intentionally tune "wrong" with some hertz, I think they downtunde like 1/4 of a note or something

Wasn't it a quarter note up from D or some shit?

ulrichmc 2007-07-19 23:31

Quote:
Originally Posted by belphegor79
Wasn't it a quarter note up from D or some shit?

According to Riffer Madness, Dime always tuned approximately a quarter step flat. E would be Eb plus 40 cents. So if a song was in Eb standard (half step down), then yes, the E strings would actually be about a quarter step sharp from D.

Unanything 2007-07-20 06:11

Yeah, a good way of demonstrating this is trying to play the widely-tabbed 'I'm Broken' in D, and noticing you are the slightest bit out, then go to C# and notice you are still a tiny bit out. This used to frustrate me when I learned it back in the day.

Dimebag called this tuning 'Pantera tuning', funny enough.

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