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travI56669 2005-12-12 01:47

Third's and all that crap....
 
I know what a third is, but is there a name for the shape some people call the "reverse power chord"?... If you don't know what i'm talking think about every In Flames song you've ever heard, and a lot of Kataklysm... :cool: :eek: :p ;) :( :stoned: :smash:


fucking smiley faces!

Otiz 2005-12-12 06:47

A reverse power chord would just be a third, yeah. A minor one.

Schizoid 2005-12-12 07:52

Look up the roots to the chord your talking about and you'll get the chord name. It has a root and a minor 3 so it is a minor chord. If you move the third down one half step you get a major 3 which is also used quite a lot by infames. So it becomes a major 3 chord. :cool:

travI56669 2005-12-12 11:28

Thanks guys..... :stoned:

powersofterror 2005-12-12 13:23

A power chord is a fifth. Where the hell do you get a third outta that?

powersofterror 2005-12-12 13:24

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schizoid
Look up the roots to the chord your talking about and you'll get the chord name. It has a root and a minor 3 so it is a minor chord. If you move the third down one half step you get a major 3 which is also used quite a lot by infames. So it becomes a major 3 chord. :cool:

no, a major third has a larger gap between the notes than a minor third.

Otiz 2005-12-12 15:42

Quote:
Originally Posted by powersofterror
A power chord is a fifth. Where the hell do you get a third outta that?

He said a 'reverse power chord'.. read man ;)

And yeah, what he said was wrong, to get a major you move the third up one semi-tone.

travI56669 2005-12-12 15:53

So it would be a major third then, right?...

davie_gravy 2005-12-12 16:12

major third:

A|--6--
E|--7--

minor third (upside down powerchord)

A|--5--
E|--7--

Otiz 2005-12-12 16:30

What he said. Haven't you guys learned the basic chords:

e |-0--
B |-1--
G |-2--
D |-2--
A |-0--
E |----

is A minor and

e |-0--
B |-2--
G |-2--
D |-2--
A |-0--
E |----

is A major

I'm basically just reposting what davie_gray said.

travI56669 2005-12-12 17:59

Minor third, okay, excuse me for smoking crack... :p Oh yeah, and fuck you!!! So I don't know a billion chords, blow me!! :o

powersofterror 2005-12-12 21:40

Quote:
Originally Posted by Otiz
He said a 'reverse power chord'.. read man ;)

And yeah, what he said was wrong, to get a major you move the third up one semi-tone.

and so what the fuck is a "reversed power chord" All power chords are only root/fifth. So what's reversed?

davie_gravy 2005-12-13 00:07

LOL!

Yea it's pretty ambiguous esp to powersofterror to say a 'reversed power chord' esp in the theory forum and not be expecting the answer he replied. The poster should have made some mention to a 'reversed power chord' shape and not the actual chord to be completely clear of his point, but no ones perfect. It's understandable, I got what he meant, and he got his answer.

travI56669 2005-12-13 00:16

Sorry, but I did say people like to CALL it that, whatever, thanks for the help everyone...... :cool:

powersofterror 2005-12-13 09:49

....wait a minute....so you're saying that people call a minor third a reversed power chord?

You guys are all fucking retarded:rolleyes:

travI56669 2005-12-13 10:04

Well why do you think I got confused?... I've been hearing people calling it a reverse power chord dammit!! :smash:

powersofterror 2005-12-13 13:18

Next time someone says that, hit them in the groin. That's the dumbest name for a chord I've ever heard.

Otiz 2005-12-13 15:01

It's a term people who wouldn't know the first thing about music theory use. I mean, you're using the term 'power chord', why don't you say 'a fifth'. I'm not gonna hit you in the groin for it anyways.

If you haven't catched WHY it's called reverse power chord by some:

A |-7- becomes A |-5-
E |-5- E |-7-

travI56669 2005-12-13 15:15

Yeah, i'll be sure to do that for you, there... :rolleyes: It is retarded, the only reason I asked in the first place is because I was fighting with my bassist about it the other day....
|--4--|
|--5--|
He said that was a third and that the other shape wasn't really anything and people called it a 'reverse power chord' (wich a lot of people do) so i'll be sure to correct him and tell him he was wrong... :D I kept telling him "dude, if they have a name for a third then the other shape has to have a name too, douche"... :mad: We pretty much don't know shit about music theory except a few things, but thanks for all the replies and stuff...

powersofterror 2005-12-13 15:48

Quote:
Originally Posted by travI56669
... because I was fighting with my bassist about it the other day....
......

And I bet it was fun too, eh?;)

It's not called "a fifth," because the power chord it is actually considered a chord in theory. The fifth is the dominant note of the root, so with distortion and played together, there wasn't much need for the third (to make a triad) because it sounded good.

The third is a different story. The third is what gives a chord it's color--major or minor; so when you play a third instead of a power chord--root/fifth--you get an incomplete triad because it excluded the fifth.


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