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John Holland 2005-06-05 14:26

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Originally Posted by xdislexicx

though having said that. i'd like to point out that you can purchase a used 60w 1x12 crate blue voodoo for about $200-300.


I totally forgot about that.

Randalls are great too : My co-guitarist runs a Randall RG200 2x12 combo into a Peavey 5150 cab --- sounds great, especially considering that he paid no more than 600$ total for his entire amplifier rig.

Soeru 2005-06-05 16:25

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Originally Posted by xdislexicx
the tech 21 trademark... awesome. for s.s. tech 21 is hard to beat. don't let wattage fool you. besides, you're just looking for a bedroom jam amp right? 10w can be loud enough to piss the people in the next room off in the middle of the night.

the crates... i'm a fan of all the tube crates, and some of the older s.s. stuff like the g1600xl and the gx130c(jack owens from cannibal corpse used to use this head back in the day). the new stuff however is hit or miss. nothing really wows me. but then again, we're just talking about affordable s.s. combo amps. not serious rigs right? so that shouldnt matter too much.

though having said that. i'd like to point out that you can purchase a used 60w 1x12 crate blue voodoo for about $200-300.

why not look at a randall combo? if you like tight metal grind built into the amp, randalls have it. it's not a hotroded tube amp, but those things have some bite. my friend has the 200w 2x12. it's pretty loud, and has some serious distortion on it. very tight and not muddy.

don't you have a guitarcenter near by that you can go jam on some amps at?


If I had an instrument shop nearby, I'd be bugging the fuck out of them every day. :P

I understand that it isn't all about wattage, but I don't think 10W could cut it for rehearsals with a drummer right? (I've recently met an amateur drummer and we'll be getting together over the summer to play some stuff). I checked out the sounds samples for the Trademark 10, damn did it sound nice, but I feel like I'd be getting a much better deal with the Cube 30.

I also don't plan on upgrading to a better rig for a long time, so I want something powerful that will last me a while.

I took a look at some Randall amps... I only found a sound demo for the 75W combo, it has a pretty neat sound -not as much gain as I was hoping for(not too many sound demos)- but the amp is $300, not in my price range.

I also took a look at the Randall RX20D(20W) and VMX30(30W), and strangely the 30W combo was cheaper. But I can spend a little more than $175, and the Randall 75W wasn't very convincing.

The Crate GT65($250) has a built-in Flexwave preamp, 3 different channels with lots of knobs, and includes a footswitch... just thought I'd mention that.

So I'm not convinced by the Randalls, not my kind of sound, but I really appreciate the suggestion. I'm comparing the Cube 30 and the Crate GT65. I can't find any sound samples for the Crate, maybe I'll make a thread to ask people's opinion for it since not many people that own/have used one will take a look at this thread, except for people who have tried out lots of amps.

Rapture 2005-06-05 16:36

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Originally Posted by Soeru
with lots of knobs.


guess that means you have to buy this one!

Six_Feet_Under_420 2005-06-05 16:41

lots of shiny knobs...

Soeru 2005-06-05 16:47

Indeed. :P I think I've made it clear enough that I don't know crap. If it has more settings to play around with, that's cool, because I don't want to be limited to only a few sounds. Wouldn't you say?

So it lies between the Crate and Cube, but any other suggestions are highly welcomed and appreciated. I think I'll go make a thread to ask about the amp.

xdislexicx 2005-06-05 18:16

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Originally Posted by Soeru
Indeed. :P I think I've made it clear enough that I don't know crap. If it has more settings to play around with, that's cool, because I don't want to be limited to only a few sounds. Wouldn't you say?

So it lies between the Crate and Cube, but any other suggestions are highly welcomed and appreciated. I think I'll go make a thread to ask about the amp.

volume and headroom, the crate is going to have some edge over the cube... but fx quality, the cube owns the crate.

i'd say their distortions are equally "ok".

*cough*buy used*cough*

Soeru 2005-06-05 18:45

Which one do you think will last longer?

Does the Crate sound muffled or fuzzy compared to the Cube or does it sound clearer?

Depending on your response I think I'm going to go with the Crate, hate to not follow your words of wisdom, but it's much more powerful, is about the same price, has more knobs :P, and you said that they both have pretty much the same distortion. Now it's all a matter of if it sounds fuzzy/muffled and if it will last long. Crate does hook you up with a 5 year warranty though...

... if the Cube is the type of amp that lasts forever I might not push it out of the picture yet. I really appreciate your help, thanks.

Edit: I also don't know which one has more gain, but I assume it's the Crate.

Timur 2005-06-06 03:37

I'm so stunned by the tone of the cube at bedroom levels.. but it hasn't got more than one usuable metal modelling, and even if you're tweaking the EQ and presence controls, the tone won't change much so you will be kind of limited to one very kickass sound..

note that this kickass sound is only kickass for bedroom levels, and I haven't found another amp which I thought sounded better for bedroom / home use..


you said you won't be getting anything for a while.. if that's the case.. I think you should save up a month or two for an amp that can do reharsals and gigs without sounding crap, because I think you will be able to do that.. right?

HermanRi! 2005-06-06 07:40

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Originally Posted by Six_Feet_Under_420
lots of shiny knobs...


...line 6 it is...those spider knobs made me blind :cool: ...


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