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Ravaging Dragon 2004-10-22 10:16

How can I remove this damn subtone in my screaming voice?
Hi, I have a short question, about a problem which really goes on my nerves:

Evertime I sing to DeathMetal, with high screams like Children of Bodom or newer In Flames, I have a few subtones in my voice which really get on my nerves.
You should use much air, which comes from your diaphragm, yes? But then my voice sounds really "windy", as if I would use really much or nearly only air and it's kinda scratchy. I think I use "vocal fry" in falsetto.
And I can't scream, when I use less air, because then my voice totally throaty.

any ideas?

Transient 2004-10-22 14:15

so we meet again! i have this problem too. i always thought it meant i am not made for doing vocals.

DeathCS 2004-10-22 17:16

:idea: Maybe you shouldn't sing!

powersofterror 2004-10-22 19:34

Don't use TOO much air.

Innards-Decay 2004-10-22 19:37

i dunno, it was weird today, my vocals sucked today when i practiced. But hadnt dranken any water, so that might have been it.

powersofterror 2004-10-22 20:40

I doubt that. It's probably cause you didn't focus.

MetalThrashingMad 2004-10-22 20:46

I have a similar problem when I try it, maybe I should wait until my voice matures 100% (I am 16 now)

Innards-Decay 2004-10-22 21:55

That could be it. My midsy main vocal just sounded flat and undynamic today, when its supposed to be really clear and articulate.

BeastOfCarrion 2004-10-22 22:52

if you sing through a mike try putting something between you and the mike so you are not litterally bretheing on it.

DeathCS 2004-10-23 02:01

or you coud just not sing
or you coud just not sing

BeastOfCarrion 2004-10-23 02:05

thats not verry helpful

DeathCS 2004-10-23 02:07

Originally Posted by BeastOfCarrion
thats not verry helpful

You spelled very wrong!!

Ravaging Dragon 2004-10-23 05:13

Wow, nice to see, that I am not the only one who has this problem...
Thanks for you tips. Maybe it's really my age, I'm just 17...

With the windy sound, I didn't mean the sound, when you blow into mic, but that you can hear that I use much air... I GUESS it would be the same, when I say my voice is thin...

I will have to experiment a bit...

One more question about the singer of children of bodom:
I think, he doesn't use vocal fry, does he? At least, i can't hear that he uses much air... But how does he scream, then?

Transient 2004-10-23 06:13

what is vocal fry??

Ravaging Dragon 2004-10-23 06:33

It's hard to describe, but I found this:

Transient 2004-10-23 09:27

does it hurt your vocal chords to do? isnt it just a really low mumble type croak? because thats how i talk....

Ravaging Dragon 2004-10-23 13:05

no. It's like when you get up in the morning and say something while you are really tired. Really silent but not whispering, you should feel your vocal chords vibrating

Innards-Decay 2004-10-23 13:53

my vox came back today, maybe i should just practice more, and i dont use a mic when i practice BoC.

andrewc 2004-10-24 04:55

Originally Posted by CANNIBALCORPSE
You spelled very wrong!!

you spelled could wrong!

powersofterror 2004-10-24 16:20

Alexi sings by hacking a loogie. A big wad of phlegm. I bet he used to have a really girly voice.

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