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Jacob 2004-08-18 16:18

Half Stack
 
Hey all, im looking for a half stack to buy. Currently I have an Ibanez TB50r (need to get rid of that thing) and a GNX3 as my pre amp. Im looking to get rid of both for a half stack. I dont want to spend to much on it because this will be my first one and I don't want to go balls out on my first purchase. I'm looking at around 500-700 for the head and cab (combined). Im looking for something that is good for death/black/trash/speed/metal. Basically anything from mayhem, dimmu borgir, slayer, satyricon or cannibal corpse. I have looked at some peaveys and they seem good, I looked at the B-52 half stack and it looked good but then read the thread on how the B-52 sounds like "ass" so im backing off that idea. Well with that said can some people point me into a direction. Remember the price thing, dont reply with "well if u are willing to spend "x" more you can get this". K, thanks in advance.

xdislexicx 2004-08-18 16:43

used crate bv120h & marshall 1960a cab.... easy and good.... right in you price....

Jacob 2004-08-18 16:50

I looked for them on the net and I found the head for 600 (used) and the cab for 500 (used). Thats alot more than im thinking of paying.

Jacob 2004-08-18 18:06

Iv been looking and iv found a head that I like. Its the Peavey XXL 100W. I have found it on ebay for under 400. As for the cab I don't want anything to expensive just something thats built like a tank and is loud. I have looked around and found the Behringer Ultrastack BG412H 4x12". So tell me if this sounds good...

Peavey XXL 100w Head with a Behringer BG412H 4x12" cab

Innards-Decay 2004-08-18 18:43

I reccomend the peavey XLSupreme. I have one, you lose a channel, but pay 119$ less for new, and you can still get a good cab/speakers for it.

Jacob 2004-08-18 18:49

I was looking at the XLSupreme too. I think im going to go a check them out. I wasn't to sure about the XLSupreme because I found some mix reviews. Do you have any sound clips from yours? Also what cab do you have for it?

BLS 2004-08-18 19:01

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xdislexicx 2004-08-18 20:27

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob
Iv been looking and iv found a head that I like. Its the Peavey XXL 100W. I have found it on ebay for under 400. As for the cab I don't want anything to expensive just something thats built like a tank and is loud. I have looked around and found the Behringer Ultrastack BG412H 4x12". So tell me if this sounds good...

Peavey XXL 100w Head with a Behringer BG412H 4x12" cab

it wont sound as good as a bv120h on a 1960a that's for sure. hell, the bv would even be a little louder. :)
those behringer cabs blow goats.... the xxl aint that bad, but there are much better heads to be had for the price.....

BLS 2004-08-18 20:28

^ listen to him, he dosent lie

guitar_demon 2004-08-18 20:37

damn dislex im starting to think your paid by marshall and crate to tell everyone to buy that rig :D

seriously thouhg im prob going to get that rig come next paycheck, or the one after

BLS 2004-08-18 20:49

lol

He likes the Cab because of the Speakers... the marshall name means nothing.
And ive played a BV recently, and DAMN i was so surprised. I can get some mean sounds out of that thing... im thinking of picking one up for a backup or something. the 60w heads go for crazy prices.

xdislexicx 2004-08-18 22:18

Quote:
Originally Posted by guitar_demon
damn dislex im starting to think your paid by marshall and crate to tell everyone to buy that rig :D

seriously thouhg im prob going to get that rig come next paycheck, or the one after

lol....
can you tell me a better rig that is that cheap???
i don't care that the blue voodoo is crate, but it's a good amp no matter what name you put on it... and the price is awesome....
the marshall cabs are not only well built with a good namesake, but they come stock with great speakers(usually celestion g12t-75's but vintage 30, and greenback style 1960 cabs are also available.).. once again, good for the money....

personally i don't own either... if marshall and or crate would endorse me, i'd gladly play it though..... :cool:
but you kinda have to be good enough to go somewhere or currently going somewhere first... so i doubt that will happen anytime soon. :(

Innards-Decay 2004-08-18 22:30

yeah, i dont have any clips, but i have a ampeg cabinet with v30s in it, it sounds pretty good, although id like to upgrade...

MetalPoldi 2004-08-19 06:05

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob
I was looking at the XLSupreme too.

Get that! Get that! Get that!!!!!
The ss-heads will conquer the forums!!!!

Def 2004-08-19 06:13

Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalPoldi
Get that! Get that! Get that!!!!!
The ss-heads will conquer the forums!!!!

ah shut your porktrap you silly german, I just robbed your country of another Engl amp yesterday :) (In Sassenberg, unter Osnabruck)

anyways, I'm off for four days of drunkyness and metal!!!

BLS 2004-08-19 11:17

Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalPoldi
Get that! Get that! Get that!!!!!
The ss-heads will conquer the forums!!!!


Silly German, SS Amps are for kids!

xdislexicx 2004-08-19 14:23

Quote:
Originally Posted by MetalPoldi
Get that! Get that! Get that!!!!!
The ss-heads will conquer the forums!!!!

no they wont.... ever....

Jacob 2004-08-19 14:51

I looked at it and have desided to get the Crate and Marshall stack. I head that the stock tubes were "shit" in the bv102 head, is that true? Bust besides that all the reviews said it was a very good amp with more distortion than ever needed. Just have to sell my old stuff first then going to get it :D. One more thing, about how much is shipping for a cab over ebay (i know distance matters but just an estimate).

xdislexicx 2004-08-19 15:00

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacob
I looked at it and have desided to get the Crate and Marshall stack. I head that the stock tubes were "shit" in the bv102 head, is that true? Bust besides that all the reviews said it was a very good amp with more distortion than ever needed. Just have to sell my old stuff first then going to get it :D. One more thing, about how much is shipping for a cab over ebay (i know distance matters but just an estimate).

shitty tubes in the bv? :confused: ..... maybe the preamp tubes, but the poweramp tubes are groove tubes, and i like em just fine.
in the end though.... if you don't like those tubes, www.eurotube.com can hook you up with all new JJ's preamp & poweramp for like $100... he just hooked my guitarist up with a full set of hand picked jj's for his 5150... it was only like $100 u.s.d.
you'll probably want to retube it soon anyways because who knows how many hours have been put on a used head.

as for shipping.... eh... the head might be like $50-ish depending on who the person goes through. but the cab would be quite a bit more... because it's bigger and weighs more... i'd highly suggest trying to find a used 1960 cab locally.... hell the head too if you can...
but for me it's all a matter of where i can get the best deal.

head local at a shop for $350... or head online for $325... well, after shipping the one online would cost more..... ect.

BLS 2004-08-19 17:54

Quote:
Originally Posted by xdislexicx
shitty tubes in the bv? :confused: ..... maybe the preamp tubes, but the poweramp tubes are groove tubes, and i like em just fine.
in the end though.... if you don't like those tubes, www.eurotube.com can hook you up with all new JJ's preamp & poweramp for like $100... he just hooked my guitarist up with a full set of hand picked jj's for his 5150... it was only like $100 u.s.d.
you'll probably want to retube it soon anyways because who knows how many hours have been put on a used head.


http://www.dougstubes.com/ is also great. Both about the same price and both awesome people.


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