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Misanthropy 2004-07-02 19:28

hearing the bass over the guitars
My band is sounding great but I have a small Ibanez amp and a much larger hartke amp. and they have told me to use the small one for gigs. and when I use it I can't hear myself at all cuz theguitars over power me really bad. and when I asked the why they told me to use the small one our singer said that the bass should not be heard. and I told him to shut the fuck up and learn how the sing. :angry:

But what do you think should the bass be heard over the guitars or at the same volume.

I say The bass and guitars should be kinda equal but the bass a little louder :D

What do you guys think

Trendkill_420 2004-07-02 19:30

I like the bass to be prominant in a band.
I'm not into music that drowns the bass out. Why bother with a bassist if that's your view on music.

Cankfurticus 2004-07-02 20:40

the bass should be heard, maybe not alot but it depends on the song that you are playing. oh yeah get a new singer for your band.

Misanthropy 2004-07-02 20:54

Yeah I know. He sux. he thinks all songs should have that "death metal voice" even slayer songs.

Sodomaniac 2004-07-03 05:48

oh yes, I had the same problem! And I had a 10 watt Ibanez amp too. The drums and the guitar were much louder and I can'z hear my bass. But I think if there is a bassist in the band, you should hear it. Personally, I like to hear the bass. And that's the opinion of all bassists I think.

BLS 2004-07-03 12:54

The bass should not overpower the guitars, thats not its purpose. But it should still be heard. Iron Maiden is a good example of what the level if bass should be, you can definetly hear it.. but it dosent over power the guitars, it just adds much needed low end because maiden uses strats. But as guitars start to tune lower it will be much harder for the bass to be heard.. thats why you do what Cryptopsy and Cannibal Corpse do.

powersofterror 2004-07-03 16:35

Pagan Prosperity by OMC is the best ex. I think of the volume should be...loud:D. Yeah, it should by the same vol. as the guitars, but not too much "bassy" tone, the drums should cover that part.

Misanthropy 2004-07-03 21:26

Yeah I want to sound like Maiden but every time I turn up the amp to kinda equal the guitars they turn up their amps too. So I am like ASSHOLES!!!!!!! :angry:

But basicly I want to sound like Maiden Cuz Steve Harris Is My RoleModel

BLS 2004-07-03 21:28

Hell yeh, Steve Harris is fuckin awesome.

Misanthropy 2004-07-03 21:33

Hell Yeah BLS. Harris is a god.
Oh and Black Label Society kicks ass too. They are one of my favorite bands and I want to see them at ozzfest

By the way how does Steve Harris (a fucking bass GOD) get the sound he does. Cuz I haven't heard anyone else get that sound. And I want to get that sound.

DemBonez 2004-07-04 00:48

If the bass is there, then it should be doing it's role. I'm a little biased being a bassist (and a rather fanatic at that), but everything should have it's purpose in the band. I can think of a few bands that have lead bassists and sounds quite euphonious, while I can think of bands with no bassist that sound equally as good. It should be decided while you make your musical direction more than just show by show. Any musician can turn his instrument up loud, but that doesn't always mean better music.

If they don't want you, then why not just leave the band?

Tattered 2004-07-04 05:38

Thats a bit stubborn what ur singer said.. im surprised u didnt swing at him for saying that, the bass should be heard.. definetely... not overpowering like (rhcp) but level with the guitars.. its funny when it is overpowering the guitars and they cant do nothing about it, its like :fuck you!! but yeah.. just tell em where to go, if he gives u any of that ''ur just a bassist'' ''it shudnt be heard'' shit.


Misanthropy 2004-07-04 06:31

I didn't swing at him cuz he is all weak and if I hit him he will be grounded by his mom and that doesn't help the band much. But yeah I always put that bitch in his place. he sux at singing anyways. yeah the guitarists understand me and they want me to use the hartke its just the singer kinda paid for it and is being a asshole. but it belongs to me. he bought it for my birthday last year but he is a selfish asshole. and he sux at getting the high fact he sux at all the notes. The problem with my band is we need a new singer.

PH 2004-07-04 10:29

Man, if your singer is an arrogant cock, you need to either shove your fist into his face and get him to show you some respect, or you need to verbally have it out with him about the fact that he's a cunt.

The best thing for a band to have is a harmonious atmosphere. These type of issues need to be sorted out immediately. You can't let crap like this fester.

My solution would be to confront the singer about his attitude, with the band behind you. If you make it apparent that it's not just you, but the band as well, that thinks he's being a whiny fuck, then he's more likely to listen to reason.

If he doesn't like it, tell him straight:

"Get your act together, stop being a dick or get the fuck out of our band".

Then he can bitch all he wants.

Sodomaniac 2004-07-04 10:51

yeah that's it. my opinion too !

Misanthropy 2004-07-04 15:13

Yeah I think I am going to do that. Eighter that or start a new band with the guitarist and drummer. but get a different singer

Trendkill_420 2004-07-04 19:20

we just got rid of one of our guitarists for that reason.
and arrogant dick. So we canned him.

Cankfurticus 2004-07-05 17:23

i am lucky that the guitarists in my band love bass and the drummers opionion is worth nothing because he sucks. the guitarists want me to get an ampeg svt 8x10 so i can play louder then them. too bad i a poor.

kingincrimson 2004-07-05 20:21

Get yourself a new band

BLS 2004-07-05 23:50

Im not a bassist, but i definetly agree that a bass should have an active purpose in a band. Like bass solos (Cannibal Corpse) Or weird ass bass slaps (Cryptopsy) Im sick of bands just ignoring the potentional of a bass. I mean cmon... guitar solo.. keyboard solo.. bass solo... it would kick ass :beer:

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