Ran Guitars

[Mordor]

Check out these real nice guitars used by Vader. What do u think?

http://www.ranguitars.com/_en/standard.htm

[dropD]

These look pretty sick but the name on the headstock looks kinda lame. Do you know if anyone carries these? I'm looking for a new guitar and these seem fairly cool. Better specs than the ESP I was gonna buy.

[Def]

they look nice, EMG's, schaller tuners, shame theres no original floyd on it, or a kahler. the name on the headstock does look lame, but for the money, it looks like a sweetass deal to me...

I never heard of Ran guitars before, never saw them in stores either, they probably don't sell them out of the US?

[Mordor]

I'd never heard of Ran guitars before until i saw Vader in England. They were using Ran guitars. Anyway I think the guitars are all hand made in Poland and you have to order them or somet. But it's worth it for the price. It beats paying out loads of money for a guitar exactly the same.

[Def]

Yeah, I agree, they use quality stuff building those guitars, and for their price, man... cheap... they look kinda like esp/jackson rip-offs, I wonder how they play

[!!RaGe!!]

i want to that gig as well fucking blinding and i am getting that flying V guitar the singer plays i already havea dime 2st so i dont wanna get a stealth and i like the feel of flying V's

[metalheadmark]

Im pretty sure this is the right forum.


Anyway, anyone ever hear of these? A friend told me about them. The have guitars as good as an ESP Kirk Hammet signature($3000) for like $600!! EMG active pick ups as standard and the custom shop is cheap too!

[metalheadmark]

Sorry, something went wrong with the key board.

Any way. They have my dream guitar for 700!!!


www.ranguitars.com

Vader use them I believe.

[GoredFaces]

Some things are cheap for a reason... but you never know, they could be pretty nice guitars.

[metalheadmark]

Ive been told from a very reliable source that they are great.

The Behringer cabs are cheap and great.

Ill see if I can find some reviews but im very happy right now about seeing this place. I was thinking about bying an epiphone but now i can afford my dream guitar

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[artofnothing6]

haha, they use the same model name on some of the guitars too.

[metalheadmark]

Hahaha, yeah I know. The KH-2 is Kirk Hammets esp and its the same there and The explorer is called JH-2. Hahahah!(James Hetfield).

[DEAD]

Hex (Gothic) instuments are like that too. You get a custom made guitar(any shape) bolt-on for $800 Neck thu for like $1200. Independent guitar makers are usually not going to change as much as Gibson because why pay the same amount for a guitar that plays just as well when you can get a brandname. And they are not trying to rip people off, just making a living doing what they love.

[metalheadmark]

What? No offense or anthing but I didnt understand a word of that!

I think im gonna go for one. Its gonne be exactlythe same as a jeff haneman esp signature but im not paying a couple of thousands for it to say 'esp' at the top.

[Mordor]

There pretty neat, I played on one, a while back now.It was a Fuckin great guitar for a relatively cheap price. I first saw them being used by Vader , when i saw them in nottingham. They kicked ass. I would seriously think about buying one but their situated in poland and are a bit of a bitch to get in contact with. If i were u i'd get a custom made invader off them

[metalheadmark]

Just to show you guys how cheap it is...

Dear Mark,
Avenger guitar in you specs costs 1170 euro( $1308). These guitars are all hand made and finished btw.
Best regards,
Dariusz Kuczynski.

> R=right handed
> body_shape=Invader
> construction=neck thru
> material=mahogany
> flamed_maple_top=no
> binding_top=yes
> binding_back=yes
> binding_color=black
> pickups_neck=N/A
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=N/A
> finish=deep metallic red
> headstock_shape=Avenger
> neck=maple
> reverse=no
> headstock_finish=match body
> neck_finish=gloss
> fingerboard=ebony
> number_of_frets=24
> fret_size=medium
> inlays=sharkfins
> fingerboard_end=square
> fingerboard_binding=yes
> headstock_binding=yes
> binding_color=black
> nut=graphite
> width=1 5/8''
> hardware_color=black
> bridge_system=Schaller Tune-O-Matic Bridge
> tuning_machines=Schaller locked
> pickups=EMG
> pickups_neck=EMG 85
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=EMG 81
> control_pattern=1 Volume, 1 TONE

[artofnothing6]

even though i'm not gonna buy one, i wanna get an estimate of what one of my custom shop guitars would be on there.

edit: i'm not gonna buy one, but can i still go to the custom shop to get an estimate? i know it says click to get price at the bottom of the form, but it also says order form at the top.

[Lamu]

Hmm what are all those colours about? "ting oil"???
And all those see-thru's...

Damn that Poland is not a part of EU yet, so I will forget getting my own custom shop -model :(

[metalheadmark]

Originally posted by artofnothing6
even though i'm not gonna buy one, i wanna get an estimate of what one of my custom shop guitars would be on there.

edit: i'm not gonna buy one, but can i still go to the custom shop to get an estimate? i know it says click to get price at the bottom of the form, but it also says order form at the top.


Yeah, they will just give you a price, than you order it if you want.

[BLS]

Tung oil is a type of finish, instead of laquer. This gives u a nice smooth feel, but this with cause the neck to warp earleir than laquer would because laquers harder.

[DEAD]

Originally posted by metalheadmark
What? No offense or anthing but I didnt understand a word of that!

I think im gonna go for one. Its gonne be exactlythe same as a jeff haneman esp signature but im not paying a couple of thousands for it to say 'esp' at the top.

What I'm saying is that say Ran guitars charged the same amount for their custom guitar as ESP. Who would you buy from? ESP right? Well a few hundred dollars of the ESP is that you are paying for the brand name and for the artist's lincense. Thats why the same quality guitar wil cost more from a big name than from a small name. Wow that was really hard to understand huh?

[metalheadmark]

I got confused over what you said first, not a big deal.


I know what you mean though.

[Undying_Hatred]

Any of you guys heard of this brand? The guy from Vader uses the "InVader" (haha) made by them, and Ive fallen in love with their Highvision model. The only problem is the price, 825 euros and I can only imagine how much shipping to Alaska is going to fucking be.....Anybody heard them play before or have one?

[Bones98]

Some guy from a polish death metal band used t live by my stepmom's house and he had one, he played with loud volume and I could hear it at times and it sounded fucking sweet.

[Undying_Hatred]

Anyone know what the shipping costs first class would be from poland to alaska?

[Bones98]

It should at least cost about $45-70 dollars to ship to alaska from poland.

[Bones98]

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lol, I know its alot, but those guitars look freaking awesome!!!

[mctriple]

what's another $50 for the guitar that you want? :P

[BLS]

Thats not abd for shipping, i paid 60 to get a 4x12 cab shipped to be from chicago and i live like 2 hrs away :angry:

[mctriple]

yeah, really. ordering anything that needs shipped is gonna be costly.

[Undying_Hatred]

Ive never ordered a guitar before, do they pack them good if you order it without a case?

[memnoch]

Overseas shipping is insane cost. 50$ would be a steal if you could find it for that cheap......but for shipping a guitar, that ranges anywhere from 10-20lbs, i'd guess you're looking at much closer to 100$ for shipping, if not more.

I ordered a goddamn DVD from the states, and it cost nearly 20$ shipping, and i'm in Canada.......usually these 2 countries have the best shipping deals because we're so close. From Polad to Alaska?? Eesh.......i don't even want to think about shipping that far!

[Undying_Hatred]

ditto.

[BLS]

Cool, i really wanna get a invader with the stealth headstock. Looks like your gonna have a killer guitar their. Good Choice on the kahler. Thats a decent price for shipping.

[Slabbefusk]

*cough* bc rich copies *cough*

[Soulinsane]

And ESP and Jackson and Washburn but still oh so nice :D Besides they can custom build anything ( or any copy ) for a better price then the US. I don't feel the least bit guilty after being riped off by most US guitars companys for shit they get built in asia for pennies and then sell it here like its fucking gold.

[fritz]

You know...I just may get one of these. A hell of a lot cheaper than Jackson's custom shop, and most of their standard guitars only have 22 frets. Soulinsane, how long did it take them to make this for you? You can bet I'll be asking you some questions once you get it.

[fritz]

Indeed. He quoted me 1120 euro (~$1350) for an Invader shaped like the Jackson RR (looks like it'd be easier to play sitting down). Not a bad price at all, I may get it when I have that much saved, especially if you like yours.

[Soulinsane]

Fritz, why don't you post your specs here. I would like to see them because I'm a guitaroholic. I had not thought of asking them if they even made an RR model, but any V is comfortible for me to sit with classical guitar style. I hope that mine is badass; from everything I gathered about Ran they are; and that you could get your dream guitar built some day soon. If you do decide to get one and have any problems or questions about sending payment ( the hardest part for me ) then just message me. They want half up front and the other half before shipment, but it's cheaper to send it all at once. I have all the info saved on how I did it. It's kind of a pain, but it's only standard US customs and money convertion shit and not hard to get through once you've done it once.

Post your specs though. I would like to see them. :D

[fritz]

Half up front isn't bad, hopefully it'll be easier for me to send payment...everything I asked of him is below:

Right Handed
Body Shape: Invader
Construction: neck-thru
Body Material: Alder
Flamed top: no
Body binding: no
Pickups: neck - hum, middle - none, bridge - hum
Finish: deep metallic red (metallic black edges)
Headstock shape: avenger
Neck material: maple
Reverse: no
Headstock finish: black
Neck finish: match body finish (metallic black)
Fingerboard: ebony
Number of frets: 24
Fret size: match to jumbo frets on Ibanez, Jackson guitars
Fingerboard inlays: shark fins
Inlay at 12th fret: yes, skull on same side
Fingerboard end: square
Fingerboard binding: no
Headstock binding: no
Nut: locking
Width: 1 11/16"
Hardware color: black
Bridge system: Shaller Locked Floyd Rose Tremolo
Tuning machines: Schaller M6
Pickups EMG
Neck - EMG 85, Bridge - EMG 81
Control knobs: volume + tone
Pickup selector: 3-way lever
Hard case: only if it will not fit in a standard guitar case.

Inlay at 12th fret: Skull on same side as sharkfins.

Deep metallic red, edges metallic black (like the one on the main page, but different colors).

For fret size, I want which is closest to the size of the jumbo frets on guitars made by Jackson or Ibanez.

Also, can you shape it so the point on the bottom is shorter, like on the Jackson RR series, so it is easier to play sitting down.

[metalprep6969]

Been in the market for a while to get a new guitar. Gonna get one after i've gotten all my money from my summer job. I'm pretty stuck on a Carvin, but we'll see how this price quote comes out and see how you guys like yours. Here are the specs I entered...

Right Handed
Body Shape: Stealth
Construction: Set neck
Body Material: Alder
Flamed top: no
Body binding: yes
Back binding: yes
Binding color: black
Pickups: neck - hum, middle - single, bridge - hum
Finish: snow white
Headstock shape: stealth
Neck material: maple
Reverse: no
Headstock finish: match body finish
Neck finish: match body finish
Fingerboard: ebony
Number of frets: 22
Fret size: extra jumbo
Fingerboard inlays: block
Inlay at 12th fret: yes (initials)
Fingerboard end: square
Fingerboard binding: yes
Headstock binding: yes
Binding color: Black
Nut: bone
Width: 1 5/8"
Hardware color: black
Bridge system: Shaller Stopbar/Tune-o-matic
Tuning machines: Schaller locking
Pickups EMG
Neck - EMG 81, Middle - EMG SA Bridge - EMG 89
Control knobs: 2 volume + tone
Pickup selector: 3-way toggle
Hard case: only if it will not fit in a standard guitar case.
Other Options:Can I get 3 volumes (arrange in a line like a strat's, with the bridge volume closest to the pickups and the neck the farthest) and 1 tone (to the right of the volumes)? I'd like the pickup selector to only go to one pickup in each position (so middle is the EMG-SA). Can I get my initals (CBT 3) inlayed at the 12th fret (preferably within the block inlay)? I'd like the Ran logo on the headstock to be black. I'd like the toggle to be in the center of the wing under the neck pickup.

\m/

[Soulinsane]

Fritz! Holy smokes dude! The paint job sounds cool as hell, but do you mean that only the beveled edges, neck, and peg face will be metallic black while the rest of the guitar is metallic red or that only that the front of the guitar body burst metallic red into metallic black or becomes black metallic sharp at the first front beveled edge of the body? Either way I realy like the 12th fret skull inlay and RR shape too. If you get it done post pics!

Metalprep6969, that will be one hell of a guitar too. A lot of binding but on a snow white guitar with block inlays ( nice touch on the CBT3 within the inlay too ) it looks really good. Also, very intrusting control config. I don't believe I have ever seen a 3x strat vol with one tone to the right and 3 way selector before, but I like it. I also had the bridge vol pot pleaced forward on my guitar with the neck second and tone last, just like a Jackson KV-1 control config.

Thanks for sharing your dream guitar specs. Post more if you like, because I think I'm taking over this thread ( sorry Undying_Hate, but can I have it as my own? ). I really like to hear about guitars.

[metalprep6969]

Thanks man, guitar is my life, I spend a buncha time learning about it. What I meant by "in line like a strat's" is the three knobs on a strat are in a line (they are actually 1 vol, 2 tone. I want to have my volumes spaced like that and have the tone to the right of it (further from the neck than the volumes). I think that would be about the easiest for quick knob adjustments, which is pretty essential for live playing.

If you guys like fully customizable guitars, I'd recommend you check out Carvin guitars. www.carvin.com THey are cheap and they have incredible reviews. The guitars are beautiful an very nicely priced (as is all of their stuff). I've heard people say they like them better than any other guitar they've ever played: LPs, PRSs, etc etc... The body styles are less radical than the Ran guitars, but quite cool.

That invader looks freaking sweet fritz, nice paint job there.

\m/

[Soulinsane]

Carvin do make nice guitars too and well priced at that. I have though about getting one so maybe next tax return I will. I really don't know why carvin doesn't get more props for their guitars but maybe it is because of their conservitive styling. I know that bass men really like their stuff though!

[Cybris]

wow these guitars kick ass! the ones you guys are describing sound incredible also. too bad these guys aren't more known in the states or they might set up shop here which would kill!

[BLS]

wow these guitars kick ass! the ones you guys are describing sound incredible also. too bad these guys aren't more known in the states or they might set up shop here which would kill!

then they wouldnt be cheap anymore :(

do they accept paypal???

"Dear Eric,
Invader guitar in your specification will costs 1190 euro.

Best regards,
Dariusz Kuczynski.

> R_or_L_handed=right handed
> body_shape=Invader
> construction=neck thru
> body_material=mahogany
> flamed_maple_top=yes
> binding_top=yes
> binding_back=no
> binding_color=white
> pickups_neck=HUM
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=HUM
> finish=black see-thru
> headstock_shape=Invader
> neck_material=maple
> reverse=no
> headstock_finish=black
> neck_finish=match body finish
> fingerboard=ebony
> number_of_frets=24
> fret_size=extra jumbo
> inlays=diamonds
> inlay_at_12th_fret=no
> fingerboard_end=square
> fingerboard_binding=yes
> headstock_binding=yes
> binding_color=white
> nut=locking
> width=1 11/16''
> hardware_color=black
> bridge_system=Schaller Locked Floyd Rose Tremolo
> tuning_machines=Schaller M6
> pickups=EMG
> pickups_neck=EMG 85
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=EMG 81
> control_knobs=volume + tone
> pickup_selector=3-way lever
> hard_case=yes"

nothing special, i just love flamed maple tops stained black with white binding
http://prsguitars.com/color/img/lg_grayblack.jpg

[metalprep6969]

What is the exchange rate from euros to US dollars?

\m/

[BLS]

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

[metalprep6969]

nothing special, i just love flamed maple tops stained black with white binding
http://prsguitars.com/color/img/lg_grayblack.jpg

Hell yeah, high contrast binding is the shit, i mean look at my guitar, haha.

\m/

[Soulinsane]

Last know they couldn't use paypal yet! That may have changed now because they are apart of unified Europe. Just ask! If not then let me know and I can help.

BLS, Sweet! I really like trans black tops of any kind! If you get this then you must also post pics.

[Soulinsane]

You are lucky! You can almost throw a rock and hit Poland from Sweden. Do you have one of these guitars too or are you maybe planing on getting one?

Also thanks to everyone for the compliments. I do feel very lucky to finally be able to get this guitar. It took a year to save up for it.

[Slabbefusk]

well the ran guitars are awesome but i have to learn to play better before i get one. I'd really like one.

[Necro_Butcher]

what exactly is a flamed maple top?

[Soulinsane]

Maple tops are only a then sheet, like 1/4", of maple placed on the front of the guitar and it cost, but can effect the tone of the guitar for the better. The flame maple sheet has a grain design the looks striped as if flames were crawling up it, I think, because there are also spralted, quilted, and birds eye tops too. This sheet is usually stained some transperent color and finished with a clear coat so that you can see the wood grain.

I'm no expert on guitars with tops but I think I'm right about all this. Hope I helped out.

[metalprep6969]

Yeah that's right. It's good to blend two types of wood. Maple is bright, so if you put it on top of mahogany, the lows from it mix well.

\m/

[BLS]

Soulinsane is correct about flamed maple... theirs also curly, quilted, tiger, spalted.... the list never ends. If you ever wondered why PRS guitars looks so ncie its because they use high priced figured maple tops then stain the wood black... sand down the highspots... and restain is green... blue... red whatever color you want... that gives it a 3d effect. That technique works best on flamed maple and exspecially quilted mpale.

[Soulinsane]

Right, to hell with the damn case. I can always get another, but a guitar has a soul. It is built from a living thing so I see it as retaining some magical value of life ( every one of them have a personal sound and feel ). It took years for the wood to grow. Good built guitars have materials that are hand picked from the oldest trees with good grain, right? Those trees have been through storms, heat, and are older then many of us. I worry more about this guitar then my own life I think. It will out last me, I'm sure.

Blahk, I'm drinking again so sorry if I sound crazy :drunk:

I just got an ideal! Maybe someone sould design a case that can withstand a truck driving over it and the guiter be fine! Anyone have any ideals about how this could be done? :drunk:

[BLS]

Is it being sent by UPS, FedEX, or shitty old USPS?? really i wouldnt worry... ive buy 98% of my shit online including big things like amps... and the tubes werent cracked when i got the head or anything. I belive theirs still some people trying to acually do their job properly.... a very few.

[Undying_Hatred]

Yes, I did start this thread (quite obviously) and yes I would like one of these guitars. But if I were pulling that much money out of my fucking asshole Im pretty damn sure that getting insurance would be one of my top prioritys.

[BLS]

It'l be fine. Ive had shit shipped from sinapore or however you spell it and it arrived in one piece. Hell.... Ran probably did make you pay insurance with out you even knowing just incase... alot of companies do that.

[Soulinsane]

fritz, I was wondering about what you meant about have a "skull enlay on the same side as the sharkfin enlays" for the 12th fret of your Ran guitar specs. I'm not sure about what you meant about that so could you explain.

[fritz]

Stupid error, I forgot the sharkfins extend across the frets.

What I meant was, on the left.

[Slabbefusk]

I was thinking about ordering a custom shop in the shape of a Ibanez Destroyer, i think its a very cool shape, i like it more than the original explorer.

[BLS]

get paul gilbert's shape! Its and Iceman/Destoyer hybred. Cool as hell, but it must be HOT PINK!! http://projectguitar.ibforums.com/index.php?showtopic=3769&hl=iceman-destroyer

[Poof Daddy]

does anyone know if the non-dot inlays are MOP or just plain stupid plastic

[Soulinsane]

I will let you know once mine gets here. If they are plastic then I am going to replace them with MOP, maybe even black MOP. It much cheaper to do it yourself and not that hard either.

[h4x5k8]

I just am about to order a custom from them except i cant find what kind of woods i want, i dont really know the differance, anyone care to help.
I told them to pretty much make it look exaclty like this photo i made up.

http://www.adueinteriors.com/custom.jpg

Just an RR custom with esp headstock and shark inlays, neck thru, floyd rose, blah blah.

[BLS]

http://www.usacustomguitars.com/bodywoods.html

alder is the usual choice of wood because its inexpensive, and pretty much is the default ot tone wood. Not to bright... not to warm.

[h4x5k8]

i guess tonal issues dont really matter if im putting an active emg in there, im thinking the preamp of the pickup will overpower any tones the wood has to provide, i dunno just a guess. I was really just looking for a guitar that wasnt neck heavy, i know my 2 epiphones are neck heavy and ive played the RR3 and thats pretty fuckin neck heavy, since im building the guitar neck-thru im just looking for one wood i could use thats not gonna make it neck heavy, + an ebony fret board.

[BLS]

The RR shape seems to even out the wieght. Mine has a alder body with a maple neck and thanks to the extended wing it even's out well.

[Soulinsane]

I just am about to order a custom from them except i cant find what kind of woods i want, i dont really know the differance, anyone care to help.
I told them to pretty much make it look exaclty like this photo i made up.

http://www.adueinteriors.com/custom.jpg

Just an RR custom with esp headstock and shark inlays, neck thru, floyd rose, blah blah.

That looks nice! Have you got a price on it? Mohogany wings with Maple neck-thru necks are my favorite. Even with active EMG it still shapes some of the tone. I also like mohogany neck and bodied guitars with EMG. This is only my opinion, so do decide for yourself. I love all guitars... I would even love a guitar made of plywood, as long as it was made with quality.

[MetalMilitiant]

did you make that image with that kisake telecaster flash program?

[Mordor]

i was gonna buy a ran guitar bout a year back , i was gonna get a custom ironbird (thunder) but ran out of money. anyways i ve got a kramer rr and its got perfect neck and body balance, it has a maple neck thru and alder wings

[h4x5k8]

Metalmillitiant yes i did make it with that flash program and i made some others but i edited a bunch of them now.

And yea that guitar is gonna be around 1080 euros with a case, which is around 1200-1300 dollars, and its a mahagony body with ebony fretboard mahogany neck and headstock, and im trying to think whether i should gho with the esp headstock http://www.adueinteriors.com/custom.jpg or the jackson one http://www.adueinteriors.com/custom1.jpg, now that i look at it i think the jackson would be a better choice. Ill take that maple neck into consideration soulinsane. But i have one ?, if a neck-thru construction is like one piece of wood carved into a guitar, how can you choose differant headstock, neck, and body woods? yea the whole insperation for this guitar was alexi laiho from CoB and sinergy.

[BLS]

reverse bananna headstock!!

:cool:

[h4x5k8]

meh.. bannana is so so, i prefer the jackson or esp one, i like the bannana on my explorer. i Know what headstock i want im just trying to decide what woods i wanna use.

[DeathCS]

I'd just go with the Jackson headstock.

[BLS]

reverse jackson!!!

[fritz]

Well, I sent my deposit to them a couple days ago, so they should be starting work on mine next week. Hope I don't have the same nightmare Soulinsane is having.

[Slabbefusk]

Man i gotta see that guitar...
I thought about ordering either the Cruiser or Avenger model with a kahler trem..

[Soulinsane]

I mailed them the Kahler trem for installation. They don't have them but I know they would like to. I had one brand new that I was waiting to be put on a guitar just like the one Ran made me.

[BLS]

I wonder if they could route all the pickups routes.. bridge route... ect. I want a unfinished body and neck so i can just install whatever pickups i want, what bridge i want... and finish it the way i want. should be cheaper too.

[Soulinsane]

Sounds like a good ieal. Ask them about it. Dariusz is an easy going dude. I'm sure he can help out.

[BLS]

Im sure he will still want the Ran logo on the headstock which is no porblem with me, id be proud to have a Ran

[DeathCS]

That does sound like a good idea.
But you would still have to go through with all that customs bullshit like Soulinsane did...

[Soulinsane]

Maybe not. Anything with a value decleared under $200 USD isn't taxed by customs and has no reason to stay with Customs.

[BLS]

then why dosent Ran just say the items worth like 50 bucks???

[Soulinsane]

Because Dariusz insures for the cost of the items. No way to get around Customs if they know its insured for over $200. Customs might seize an item forever if they believe some kind of fraud is involved.

[Necro_Butcher]

Is it a Ran guitar? I will help you.
No man, its a jackson Dk2 L

see www.guitarxpress.com said they shipped on tuesday, but the tracking hasnt been updated past "Billing information received" so i really have no idea whats going on with it

[Deathmaster213]

USPS???? Our Post Office (the UK that is) makes yours look like your mail is delivered by God himself.

I live in the UK, slightly cheaper still to send stuff, as as cool as Vader and Decapitated look like with this things, I think I may end up buying a custom axe from a luthier I know. I do a guitar shops website, they don't normally have anything I fancy, cos they deal in old Gretschs, Gibsons and all that stuff, but their luthier knows his shit, and he'll probably do me a sweet ass custom axe which is totally fucking amazing for not very much at all (in terms of custom made guitars anyway, he's not going to give it away).

I could walk by the shop and see it being made day by day and not have to pay any shipping at all!

Only problem is tho, being a small operator, he doesn't have facilities for the really hardwaring laquers (cos the professional plastic stuff is lethally toxic), so if I knocked it it might chip really easily.

That of course depends how careless I'd be with my custom guitar...

I know a guy who bought a PRS, and at a gig thie rother guitarist knocked it off a stand within a week or something and chipped it. He just said "shit...ah well, accidents happen...".

I'd have killed him where he stood.

[BLS]

use a polyurathane finish if possible, its very strong. And i never knew Decapitated played Ran's. I found a pic... that ironbird with the dime headstock look badass. I want a v with a dime headstock.. mmmm

[DeathCS]

That sounds like a good idea, DeathMaster. Thats what I would do if I wanted a custom guitar.

[BLS]

Yeh whats cool is he can check up and see the progress, maybe even learn some things if he desires so. I wish i knew a luthier... id annoy the fuck out of him by asking him so many questions :D

[Slabbefusk]

v's with dime headstocks are ugly!

[BLS]

Meh.. i think it looks cool http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/bls420/dreamguit.jpg


And I doubt they use an endangered species of mahogany.. and if they do then dont fuckin get a mahogany guitar from them.

[Slabbefusk]

well the "dime v's" that dean guitars do are ugly!

[BLS]

yeh, im not much a fan of the rounded v, i like the point ones :D

[Poof Daddy]

does anyone know how ran guitars compare to shamray, full customs i mean. Because they are about the same price but shamray seems to have a lot more experience copying crap, theyll even do the vai vine inlay thing.

[h4x5k8]

So Soulinsane how was dealing with ran? are they easy to commuinicate with? did they keep you posted on how far your guitar was or did you just send the custom order in and didnt hear from them for 3 months and then they just sent it? just wondering how good of a business they are..... :confused:

[Slabbefusk]

where do they get the kahlers from?

[BLS]

http://metaltabs.com/forum/showpost.php?p=138530&postcount=58

[Soulinsane]

Ran doesn't have Kahler bridges and most other guitar companys don't either. I mailed a new one to Ran for installation. BLS has just given the website to the Kahlar company where you can still get them. They are not mass marketing the bridges right now, but I heard that soon they will agian. Kahlar makes golf clubs mostly right now, but they still make batches of bridges from time to time. They cost a little cash but are worth it.

[h4x5k8]

hell yea i cant wait to see those pics, i am just about to order my ran and i think this right here is the final product i have decided. :smash:
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flamed_maple_top=no
binding_top=no
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pickup_selector=N/A
hard_case=yes
additional=BODY : Randy Rhoads Flying V Body.
PAINTJOB : Satin Black with white pinstripe bevels. http://www.adueinteriors.com/ps.jpg
A picture i made to give you an idea of the paintjob and completed guitar. (the volume knob is off, and white pinstripes are crooked in some places, please use the http://www.adueinteriors.com/ps.jpg as a better referance for paintjob) http://www.adueinteriors.com/RR_v_Custom.jpg
:vampire:

[BLS]

A Maple Body?!?!?!?! God thats gonna be a HARSH and shrill sounding guitar. :sickface: But atleast you'll be able to get a good 80's hair metal tone lol

and the pics dont load

[h4x5k8]

thats pretty awesome, of course the customs couldnt be the last thing that was messed up on your order, your gay neighbors have to take it. All i say is save up for like 10 full randell warhead stacks and point them towords your neghbors house and shred it out for as long as you can on the new Soulinsane custom :vampire:

Dariusz emailed my back and said it would be 1090 euros for that custom i posted up there.

whats so bad about a maple body? would there be a btter choice? alder, mahogony?

[BLS]

thats pretty awesome, of course the customs couldnt be the last thing that was messed up on your order, your gay neighbors have to take it. All i say is save up for like 10 full randell warhead stacks and point them towords your neghbors house and shred it out for as long as you can on the new Soulinsane custom :vampire:

Dariusz emailed my back and said it would be 1090 euros for that custom i posted up there.

whats so bad about a maple body? would there be a btter choice? alder, mahogony?

Or he could buy ONE quality high gain tube amp and be louder than those 10 randall ss pos.

Maple is a bright wood, not comonly used for guitar bodys because its sounds horrible. Go alder.

[BLS]

Pics are on the way folks, calm down. Give me a little time, I just got home and I'm going to have pics here very soon, if I can ever stop playing the guitar.

BLS, I have had a custom Jackson KV-1, USA made guitar before. It was a super great guitar, but this Ran guitar is completely unreal and cost much less. Even after all the problems I had, I will get another one. Next time will not be as crazy through Customs, because I know just what needs to be included for fast passage and Ran will know this by the end of today too. Hopefully this will help everyone else in the future that gets a Ran guitar too.

As for my getto neighbors, they wouldn't know how to play a guitar or even care. They would have just sold it for crack or something, so I'm glad I was fast to react before it was too late. I almost exspected something like this to happen after everything else going wrong, maybe I was cursed or something. One thing was for sure... one of my neighbors was going to get an total asskicking if the guitar didn't show up fast. I believe I must have looked crazy when I knocked on their door. Those bastards know I had caught them within 10 minutes.

Jackson custom shop guitars are fuckin awesome!! This Ran guitar must be amazing then :eek:

[Soulinsane]

Get a Kahler flat mount first, strike a deal with Ran on a guitar, and have them install it. Mine was the first Kahler system they ever did and they did one hell on a job! Wait until I have the pics developed tomarrow and you will see for yourself.

Will you get the invader (V) with the shealth (Dime) headstock? What inlays will you get? I know you like Duncan pups. Did you know he installs them instead of EMG if you want at no extra charge?

The next Ran I would like to get is the Avenger (warlock body) with the stealth (Dime) head stock.

[h4x5k8]

Get a Kahler flat mount first, strike a deal with Ran on a guitar, and have them install it. Mine was the first Kahler system they ever did and they did one hell on a job! Wait until I have the pics developed tomarrow and you will see for yourself.

Will you get the invader (V) with the shealth (Dime) headstock? What inlays will you get? I know you like Duncan pups. Did you know he installs them instead of EMG if you want at no extra charge?

The next Ran I would like to get is the Avenger (warlock body) with the stealth (Dime) head stock.

Fuck yea dude, i cant fuckin wait to get my custom RR (have those pics worked yet, the ones i linked a couple posts back?????) I am so fuckin excited to order this shit, i just hope that customs shit doesnt happen. Ran is the ultimate shit and if they are better than jackson, once more people hear about ran and there goodness the more expensive they will get, so its good that we are ordering them early. My guitar teacher got an offer from a custom guitar maker 6 years ago for around $800 and now those same guitars now go for around $4000 for a custom. :) Ran :)

[BLS]

Get a Kahler flat mount first, strike a deal with Ran on a guitar, and have them install it. Mine was the first Kahler system they ever did and they did one hell on a job! Wait until I have the pics developed tomarrow and you will see for yourself.

Will you get the invader (V) with the shealth (Dime) headstock? What inlays will you get? I know you like Duncan pups. Did you know he installs them instead of EMG if you want at no extra charge?

The next Ran I would like to get is the Avenger (warlock body) with the stealth (Dime) head stock.

I wont have him install the Kahler or the pickups. Cause remember i want to finish this guitar myself so it would be kinda pointless to have them install this shit. Ill probably get the diamond inlays.

Data=July 2nd, 2004
customer=Eric
country=USA
e-mail=Cryptopsy666@sbcglobal.net
R_or_L_handed=right handed
body_shape=Invader
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construction=neck thru
body_material=ash
material_other=
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binding_top=no
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binding_color=N/A
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pickups_middle=N/A
pickups_bridge=HUM
finish=natural
finish_other=unfinished please
headstock_shape=Vision
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headstock_finish=black
headstock_finish_other=
neck_finish=satin
neck_finish_other=unfinished please
fingerboard=ebony
fingerboard_other=
number_of_frets=24
fret_size=extra jumbo
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fingerboard_end=square
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binding_color=white
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width=1 11/16''
hardware_color=black
bridge_system=Schaller Locked Floyd Rose Tremolo
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control_knobs=volume
pickup_selector=3-way lever
hard_case=yes
additional=For the bridge can you route a Kahler 2300 Flatmount, i can include the specs for this if needed. Also can the controls be 1x Volume + 2x Tone + 1x Killswitch. Im also curious if you guys can send me the guitar unfinished? I would like to apply my own finish on the guitar, if you can do this please leave the Swap Ash unfilled. You can paint the headstock black and put the Ran logo on it, i want to be a proud Ran owner :)

Thanks!

[h4x5k8]

thats pretty hardcore that you wanna finish it your self, i would be to impatient and get to agrovated to try to finish it i would just wanna start playing it.

[BLS]

Heh. It wont take longer than a week.

[h4x5k8]

Heh. It wont take longer than a week.
yea if your experianced, but i would trust an experianced guitar builder to make/finish my guitar way more than myself. The guitar im trying to make is pretty much a copy of Roope Latvalla's black jackson custom with the white pinstripe bevel so i guess it wouldnt be that hard to paint, it just has satin black finish which i wouldnt understand how to apply.l

[BLS]

yea if your experianced, but i would trust an experianced guitar builder to make/finish my guitar way more than myself. The guitar im trying to make is pretty much a copy of Roope Latvalla's black jackson custom with the white pinstripe bevel so i guess it wouldnt be that hard to paint, it just has satin black finish which i wouldnt understand how to apply.l

Im a novie luthier and do this shit for fun. The finish i plan on doing is fairly simple.

[DeathCS]

How much are you saving by donig the finish and what not by your self?

[Digimortal]

Jesus christ people, he said he will post pics later. Fuckin impatient bastards :p

After all the shit he's had to go through and as long as this thread has been going you should realize some of us are almost as excited as soul is. It's more of a compliment than being an "impatient bastard". :rolleyes:

Soul if you don't mind my asking what was the total price for your Ran after paying customs and what not? Or to be more specific what was your original estimate and what did you finally end up paying. I'm interested in picking up just the standard invader and was wondering how much extra cash I should set aside for customs, taxes, etc. that might crop up after it's been sent.

[h4x5k8]

After all the shit he's had to go through and as long as this thread has been going you should realize some of us are almost as excited as soul is. It's more of a compliment than being an "impatient bastard". :rolleyes:

Soul if you don't mind my asking what was the total price for your Ran after paying customs and what not? Or to be more specific what was your original estimate and what did you finally end up paying. I'm interested in picking up just the standard invader and was wondering how much extra cash I should set aside for customs, taxes, etc. that might crop up after it's been sent.

Well Hopefully you wont have to deal with customs, cause soulinsane was gonna try to make ran guitars put the wood types with the shipping info and invoices, so customs wont inspect it and shit, and soulinsane was gonna se if he could try to make customs let rans pass through now since they know its just a normal guitar after all what they did to souls. But im pretty sure those invaders are like 620 euro which is like 763.77 american and the shipping is like 80 euro or 98.55 american, cases are 70 euro or 86.23 american and money conversion to euros is about 35 american so all in all its gonna cost around $980 plus or minus some shit depending on if they price you differant or customs fucks with you.

[BLS]

How much are you saving by donig the finish and what not by your self?

I havent got a reply from them yet so i dont know. Im gonna do a finish like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41406&item=3724294919 its very simple. It only works with Swap Ash though.

[fritz]

Looks great man, I'm really glad it turned out so nice. My RR copy will be done in September. It's going to end up costing close to $2000 after transfer fees, maybe a customs fee, etc. but it will be well worth it if it is as good as you say.

[Digimortal]

Absolutely gorgeous. If it plays as smooth as it looks I'll be converted too.

[BLS]

Damn!!! That looks absolutly AMAZING. I MUST own a Ran now!! That kahlers nice and clean too, did you buy it 2nd hand or directly from kahler?

[Soulinsane]

I got the Kahler new on Ebay, never used, but out of the box. The pics are not doing justice for the guitar and it pisses me off. I wish I could let everyone here that has listened and supported me through getting this guitar really see and play it. What I'm saying is thank you for helping me get through the nightmare shipping.

[Soulinsane]

Looks great man, I'm really glad it turned out so nice. My RR copy will be done in September. It's going to end up costing close to $2000 after transfer fees, maybe a customs fee, etc. but it will be well worth it if it is as good as you say.

Why $2,000? Did Ran already raise their cost? I know for sure that Customs will want a ransom of about $100-$140 USD; there is no getting around that one, but I hope that Ran listens to me about what to include in the invoice when they ship to the US and passage through Customs is much faster.

[h4x5k8]

Looks great man, I'm really glad it turned out so nice. My RR copy will be done in September. It's going to end up costing close to $2000 after transfer fees, maybe a customs fee, etc. but it will be well worth it if it is as good as you say.
Yea why $2000 im getting an RR copy and he said 1090 euros and that includes the case, what are the specs on your custom.

And soulisane thats pretty kickass, are the kahlers a lot better playing then the schaller floyd rose copies they have? or is it all just preferance? Also you have to pay a customs fee no matter what??

[Compelled 2 Lacerate]

im getting a invader in snow white and black binding with a emg (81 or 85) black hardware hard ash body maple neck with ebony fret board shaclller floyd. that or a new drumset. :vampire:

[Soulinsane]

Yea why $2000 im getting an RR copy and he said 1090 euros and that includes the case, what are the specs on your custom.

And soulisane thats pretty kickass, are the kahlers a lot better playing then the schaller floyd rose copies they have? or is it all just preferance? Also you have to pay a customs fee no matter what??

No matter what. It could very well slip by them and you pay nothing, but the guitar is insured via Ran. Being that it is insured, Customs knows at least the value that was payed for it. It all depends on who is working that day and time in customs when your guitar gets to the US. They charge duties and taxes to the value of the parcel 95% of the time. It's total BS, but I can find no way around it unless I smuggle it personaly it into the country. I have done this many times with the Navy and have got many goodies too; a story for another time. I really hate the ideal of the US Feds wanting a payment for something you already own.

[h4x5k8]

No matter what. It could very well slip by them and you pay nothing, but the guitar is insured via Ran. Being that it is insured, Customs knows at least the value that was payed for it. It all depends on who is working that day and time in customs when your guitar gets to the US. They charge duties and taxes to the value of the parcel 95% of the time. It's total BS, but I can find no way around it unless I smuggle it personaly it into the country. I have done this many times with the Navy and have got many goodies too; a story for another time. I really hate the ideal of the US Feds wanting a payment for something you already own.
Haha sweet anxoius to hear some of those stories, well im gettin may ran as soon as a i can i am trying to find a black kahler but i dont know if its even worth spending the extra money on, hopefully a schaller floyd copy is good enough for me, do you have and messenger on your comp that we could talk with, seems like i always have something to ask on the forum but i never end up doing it.

[Soulinsane]

I would say a Kahler flat mount trem is better than any Floyd, but that's because of quality and a little preference. BLS once said that that Floyds can do a few things that Kahler can't (like break for one imo) and it's true. Unless you are a hardcore Floyd fan, I would really go with Kahler. If you worry about how rare Kahler are then worry no more, because they are starting mass production again. Only make sure that the Kahler you get is a flat mount 2300 series, because they are the best Kahler systems.

[h4x5k8]

I would say a Kahler flat mount trem is better than any Floyd, but that's because of quality and a little preference. BLS once said that that Floyds can do a few things that Kahler can't (like break for one imo) and it's true. Unless you are a hardcore Floyd fan, I would really go with Kahler. If you worry about how rare Kahler are then worry no more, because they are starting mass production again. Only make sure that the Kahler you get is a flat mount 2300 series, because they are the best Kahler systems.
Sweet thanks

[BLS]

I would say a Kahler flat mount trem is better than any Floyd, but that's because of quality and a little preference. BLS once said that that Floyds can do a few things that Kahler can't (like break for one imo) and it's true. Unless you are a hardcore Floyd fan, I would really go with Kahler. If you worry about how rare Kahler are then worry no more, because they are starting mass production again. Only make sure that the Kahler you get is a flat mount 2300 series, because they are the best Kahler systems.

Yeh, but even the flyers are good (thier the less exoensive kahlers flatmounts) But if you really want that floyd the Schaller floyd is an Origanal Floyd Rose, dont let the name fool you.

[fritz]

Why $2,000? Did Ran already raise their cost? I know for sure that Customs will want a ransom of about $100-$140 USD; there is no getting around that one, but I hope that Ran listens to me about what to include in the invoice when they ship to the US and passage through Customs is much faster.

They didn't raise their prices, but they charged me more for the RR body style (which I really wanted). I'm factoring in the bullshit customs fee with that price.

[BLS]

Well Dariusz sent me this e-mail today

"Dear Eric,
Invader guitar /unfinished/ in your specification will costs 1020 euro.
Please, include the specs for Kahler bridge.
It`s very nice project. I made Invader with Stealth`s headstock for customer
from Belgium.
You can see it on http://coalition.free.fr/sckibe.htm

Best regards,
Dariusz Kuczynski."

that invader looks fuckin awesome!

[Soulinsane]

That Guitar looks great. The Stealth headstock looks very nice on the Invader body. The 12th fret inlay looks sweet too.

For that price, BLS, why not ask if Ran can do that guitar fininsh you want? I was also thinking that the grain of the neck-thru on the body would look different then the body wood, so wouldn't a set or bolt-on neck allow for a better looking body? Maybe a thin top wood could cover the neck-thru wood on the guitar body. Also, thanks for the info about Schaller Floyds being Original Floyd Rose bridges; the quality of OFR are nice. I thought Schaller were licenced Floyds, but I'm not a Floyd man so I had no ideal.

I got a email from Dariusz today. Ran has heard of the troubles I had in Customs and now knows how to fix them so no one else has problems, also they changed carriers and now use UPS. Everything should ship out nice and smooth for now on, but just in case there are any problems with Customs, I said he could contact me anytime for help. Anyone here can ask me for help with Customs, just PM me and I will be glad to help.

And some great news. Dariusz said that he will open a Ran guitar shop in the US, but it is still to early for Ran to expand yet. One day Ran Guitars will rule the guitar world.

[BLS]

Yeh i wonder why mine cost so much?? Ill probably just get and alder body. I dont need the pickups so ill tell him that, he dosent need to wire anything. Im not buying a bridge from him... My guitar dosent ask for any customs stuff really. That body looks real nice with the silver bevels, i might even have him do the finish like that. Maybe after all that i can afford it :D

Any idea when he will open a Ran shop in america?? Maybe i can goto luthiery school and work for him :D ... id be the happiest man ever, id work for fuckin 5.50 and hr even.

[BLS]

I was thinking the same thing :p

Soul, you should write a review now http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/#man you'll have to make a new catagory... you will be the first one to review a Ran Guitar! :D

[h4x5k8]

what do you mean the schaller are original floyds, i thought they were licenced?
What is the differance betweem the two? :confused:
if im right i think liscenced floyds are company's that get permission to make them and do shitty copy's or atleast most companys do shitty copies. Are schaller floyds a part of floyd rose or somthing?

[Compelled 2 Lacerate]

Schaller is a company that makes tuners strap locks shit like that and they make a damn good licensed floyd.

[h4x5k8]

thats what i thought but some say otherwise

[h4x5k8]

im getting a invader in snow white and black binding with a emg (81 or 85) black hardware hard ash body maple neck with ebony fret board shaclller floyd. that or a new drumset. :vampire: and a new computer and a new car and a new bass and new guitar and new house and new plane and new summer vacation house and new cruiseliner, all that or a new toothbrush

[BLS]

what do you mean the schaller are original floyds, i thought they were licenced?
What is the differance betweem the two? :confused:
if im right i think liscenced floyds are company's that get permission to make them and do shitty copy's or atleast most companys do shitty copies. Are schaller floyds a part of floyd rose or somthing?

The OFR's are all made by Schaller.

[Soulinsane]

Kickass guitar, goes well with the flowery background

I know I would get some feedback about the flowers on the wall :D I don't like them either but I'm moving in less then a month so I will never see those flowers again.

BLS, thanks for that site. I will write a review about Ran Guitars there. Ran deserves to be noticed. Dariusz will need all the attention we can give Ran so that he can open a shop in on this side of the world too. Ran guitars will one day be very well known for the quality and prices they have. You can't beat a complete custom hand made guitar for less than $1,500.

[DeathCS]

But Dont you think that once they get big, theyll just jack up the price cuz they can?

[BLS]

Not because they can but because they will have too. More deman means he needs more workers. But the price will still be extremely reasonable seeing as he will have to compete with the likes of Jackson.

[Soulinsane]

Hehe :D Yeah, flowers do add lots of contract to a Ran guitar.

I'm sure that Ran will eventually have to raise their price once they expand some. Like BLS said, to cover the overhead cost of expanding, but as long as it's about the love of making great guitars and only profit to make a decent living, if the cost was raised slowly to account for expanding, poeple would understand. I bet that Ran would still kick the hell out of Jackson's, B.C. Rich, ect. custom shop cost if they even doubled the price. I don't believe Ran would never charge a huge amount. I don't think Ran is about money.

BLS said he would like to be a luthier for Ran... I know it's because he loves guitars and as long as he could pay his bills and live a nice life style, he would never stop making guitars for a shit job that payed more. I have a nice job but would love to work for Ran, because if I could make guitars that will last longer that me and give poeple the same feeling I got from my guitar for a good price, I could be happy doing that the rest of my life even if I never got filty rich doing it.

[Soulinsane]

I found some other Ran guitar pics while surfing today.

[BLS]

Damn thats a badass 7 string

[Soulinsane]

And some more pics.

[Soulinsane]

And one with skulls.

[BLS]

That ones not my kinda of guitar at all, the flamed maple and pickups with no pickup rings look nice.

[Soulinsane]

Which one, the skull one or the other? The flame top does look nice and I think Ran mounts all the pups right to the body for better wood tone. The wood on the 7 string looks like mohogany and has good grain.

[Soulinsane]

Found some more pics of Ran Guitars today.

[BLS]

The dont mount all pickups directly to the body, your guitar has pickups rings, and all the standard models do too. http://www.decapitated.cjb.net/ has tons of pics. They use Ran guitars

[Soulinsane]

Mine doesn't have pup rings, look.

[BLS]

oooo i never saw good picture of the pickups.
I prefer pickups rings, unless their directly mounted like that one guitar. I dont like the cavity to show.

Dariusz just sent me the new price, its only $1,032.71 :D

Soul, you said they only want half upfront right??

He also attached this pic for no apparent reason, but damn.. thats the nicest headstock ive ever seen

[Soulinsane]

:eek: Nice pic! I love Ran guitars.

Is that for the unfinished guitar, BLS? Dariusz only requires half up front and the rest later, but it is cheaper to just send it all in one transfer because it cost to transfer and convert the money each time. Payment methods may have charged though, but if Ran is still only accepting bank wire it will cost a little to send patment. My transfer only cost $35.

[Deathmaster213]

If the pickups are screwed directly to the wood, does this mean you cannot adjust the height?

EMGs are supposed to be as close to the strings as possible (as the EMG literature says) and so would the possiblilty arise that the pickups may end up too low?

Or is it a case of spot-on routing to make sure the bottom of the pickup rout is exactly the right depth :)

I heard that Eddie van Halen used to fix his pups directly to the wood on his Wayne axes, but I've also heard it makes very little difference tone wise.

I never really liked the look of the ring-less Ibanez's, but I'm starting to like them.

[Soulinsane]

No, the pups are not screwed down completely tight to the wood, but the height adjustment screws are mounted directly to the body. It's kinda hard to explain but the pups height can be adjusted. There really is no need with a Ran guitar because it was setup perfect right out of the case. I haven't had to adjust a single thing since I got it and I'm a fanatic about everything being setup perfect.

[Deathmaster213]

Sweet. Yeah, I kinda guessed the stupidity of my question after I posted and had a look around. It wouldn't be very popular at all if you couldn't adjust pup height...

I've submitted a design for a quote. I'm already preparing a second cheaper design for when I'm told it's quite expensive...

Whatever the result, it'll be a long time before I can afford it...

[BLS]

:eek: Nice pic! I love Ran guitars.

Is that for the unfinished guitar, BLS? Dariusz only requires half up front and the rest later, but it is cheaper to just send it all in one transfer because it cost to transfer and convert the money each time. Payment methods may have charged though, but if Ran is still only accepting bank wire it will cost a little to send patment. My transfer only cost $35.

No its finished.

Heres the e-mail i sent

Hi Eric,
It`s very good choice, I love Invader`s shape with painted bevels.
Now, your guitar costs only 840 euro.

Best regards,.
Dariusz Kuczynski.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric" <cryptopsy666@sbcglobal.net>
To: <ranguitars@ranguitars.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 8:40 PM
Subject: (custom)


> Data=July 3rd 2004
> customer=Eric
> country=USA
> e-mail=Cryptopsy666@Sbcglobal.net
> R_or_L_handed=right handed
> body_shape=Invader
> body_shape_other=
> construction=neck thru
> body_material=alder
> material_other=
> flamed_maple_top=no
> binding_top=no
> binding_back=no
> binding_color=N/A
> pickups_neck=HUM
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=HUM
> finish=black
> finish_other=
> headstock_shape=Vision
> headstock_shape_other=Stealth
> neck_material=maple
> reverse=no
> headstock_finish=black
> headstock_finish_other=
> neck_finish=match body finish
> neck_finish_other=
> fingerboard=ebony
> fingerboard_other=
> number_of_frets=24
> fret_size=extra jumbo
> inlays=diamonds
> inlay_at_12th_fret=no
> fingerboard_end=square
> fingerboard_binding=yes
> headstock_binding=yes
> binding_color=white
> nut=locking
> width=1 11/16''
> hardware_color=black
> bridge_system=Schaller Locked Floyd Rose Tremolo
> tuning_machines=Schaller M6
> pickups=EMG
> pickups_neck=N/A
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=N/A
> control_knobs=volume
> pickup_selector=N/A
> hard_case=yes
> additional=Hi, This a follow up to my previous price qoute. I still would
like the bridge routed for a Kahler 2300 Flatmount. I already own the bridge
and The pickups i want so i dont need to order them from you, i can easily
install them myself. I no longer wish to perform the finish myself. Can you
paint the bevels silver like the one here:
http://coalition.free.fr/sckibe.htm
>
> Thanks!
> submit=Submit for price
>
>


I went with and alder body since im not going for that finish anymore, Im not buying and pickups off them because i already have an extra JB (mmmm my beloved pickup of choice!!) and ill probably get a jazz for the neck. Man i cant wait till i have $550

[Soulinsane]

Duncan JB and Jazz? I think that is the same pups Dave Mustaine uses, not sure. Anyway, It will be a cool guitar. I can't wait until you get it and complete construction. You have to post pics too, once its finished.

I've already started to save cash for another one next year... That or a nice rack amp.

[MoonRaven]

what do the rest of their body designs look like, for some reason pictures wont load up from their site

[BLS]

Duncan JB and Jazz? I think that is the same pups Dave Mustaine uses, not sure. Anyway, It will be a cool guitar. I can't wait until you get it and complete construction. You have to post pics too, once its finished.

I've already started to save cash for another one next year... That or a nice rack amp.

Yep, dave mustaine uses the jb/jazz and so does michael amott from arch enemy, they both play v's too :p

moon raven, they have a strat, warlock, ironbird, explorer, dime

and they can pretty much make any shape you want.

[MoonRaven]

Yep, dave mustaine uses the jb/jazz and so does michael amott from arch enemy, they both play v's too :p

moon raven, they have a strat, warlock, ironbird, explorer, dime

and they can pretty much make any shape you want.
whats the strat one called, cus i wanna get a quote on the price, also, which headstock would be like a prs style looking thing

[h4x5k8]

Duncan JB and Jazz? I think that is the same pups Dave Mustaine uses, not sure. Anyway, It will be a cool guitar. I can't wait until you get it and complete construction. You have to post pics too, once its finished.

I've already started to save cash for another one next year... That or a nice rack amp.
Yea about the rack what kind you gettin? My friend is about to get a marshall jmp-1 (i think thats the model name) he was lookin at the mesa tri-axis, that thing is sexy. If i ever get a rack pre-amp its gonna have to be the tri-axis

[BLS]

whats the strat one called, cus i wanna get a quote on the price, also, which headstock would be like a prs style looking thing

http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/bls420/m-avenger2.jpg

http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/bls420/hiVision.jpg

http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/bls420/m-vision2.jpg

http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/bls420/m-thunder2.jpg

http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/bls420/m-stealth.jpg

http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/bls420/m-jh22.jpg

http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/bls420/m-inVader2.jpg

http://img35.photobucket.com/albums/v106/bls420/m-cruiser2.jpg

[MoonRaven]

many thanks BLS, im prolly gonna go with a cruiser

[Slabbefusk]

i was thinking about the vision with a cruiser headstock.

[DeathCS]

I like the Vision. Yeah I'd get the Vision with the Cruiser Headstock.

Stupid question, Couldnt BC Rich sue Ran if they wanted to for copying their guitars?

[BLS]

If ran sets up a shop in the us... then yes, but in poland bc rich's copyright laws mean shit. Ever wonder why ESP only makes the alexi model in japan?? Becuase if they sold them in the us then Jackson would sue them for copying the RR shape

[Soulinsane]

But if the guitar only has one noticable difference besides the name, nothing can be done about it. As long as it's not a complete replica nothing can be done. As for headstock shapes, as long as its custom built at the request of the customer, nothing can be done either. Warmoth guitars have shapes that look like other guitar companys designs and they have no problems that I know of selling stuff.

By the way, what does the Impact look like? I see that Ran has this new design but I have never seen one that I know of.

[DeathCS]

Yeah I kinda assumed that if you ordered it custom then nothing could be done.

[BLS]

Not true, if they copy the fender headstock then they will be hearing from fender. Warmoth licenses alot of the headstock shapes.

[Soulinsane]

I hate to say it, but BLS, you may be right about most of this trademark shit with guitars being sold in America. Warmoth is a licensed Fender dealer, which owns Jackson, now that I remember.

There has to be a way around it, though, if the guitar is custom made for a single person, right?

[BLS]

If its custom made, and sold in america then fender cna still sue, but they are less likely to becuase its not the the guitar is being mass produced.

[Deathmaster213]

Well, I won't tell Jackson if you don't.

[BLS]

Belive me, fender, gibson, Prs.. they all have an army of laywers.. they find out sooner or later.

[Slabbefusk]

if ran is not based or has a production location in the us i think they are "unsuable"

[BLS]

ive already said that...

[Deathmaster213]

I've been designing my Ran now for a few weeks. It keeps changing, I guess I'm just trying to make sure it's what I really want, but hey, there's no hurry, a 5150 head must come first.

I have been trying to come up with something that is slightly more original than just a Jackson copy, which is really all I had in mind previously. I just came up with my own take on a shape that has made me drool since I first saw it. Not to mention, I saw that someone came up with my original idea before I did!

Designing a dream guitar is fookin hard...I feel like a kid in a candy store... what I will eventually walk away with is limited only by my imagination, and unfortunatley my wallet.

[Soulinsane]

What shape are you thinking of using?

I know how hard it is designing just what you want too. If I could have got black fret wire on mine I would have, but they don't make the stuff, only nickel, steel, and brass :( I think on my next Ran I'm going to get brass hardware along with brass frets :) I will mail the fret wire to Ran for installation if they don't have it. It should look sweet and pretty custom.

[Deathmaster213]

As much as I'd love to show you my mock up pics (cos I think it's fuckin awesome) I'm afraid it's top secret cos some fucker will steal it! :uzi:

[BLS]

One regular Stainless Steel frets gain popularity (if they ever do) then im almost positive that colored fret wire will be made, Stainless steel hardly wears so the colo will remain.

[Deathmaster213]

Don't stainless steel frets sound really bright? I'm pretty sure I heard that somewhere.

[Soulinsane]

I don't think they would sound to much brighter than nickel. It would sound like a open string on a guitar with a steel locking nut, but would wear better.

[BLS]

some tone freaks say they can hear the difference between satinless steal and nickle (ed roman) but those are just the people who are too lazy to file them down. It takes ALOT of work, and diamond files. But once their perfect they will remain perfect. Bends feel like butter one stainless steel frets.

[Innards-Decay]

As soon as i get the money... im getting this monster.
Dear Andrew,
RG guitar in your specification with hard case will costs 850 euro.

Best regards,
Dariusz Kuczynski.

> R_or_L_handed=right handed
> body_shape=Ibanez Rg series
> construction=all access neck joint
> body_material=alder
> flamed_maple_top=no
> binding_top=no
> binding_back=no
> binding_color=N/A
> pickups_neck=N/A
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=HUM
> finish=satin black
> headstock_shape=Jackson Dinky
> neck_material=maple
> reverse=yes
> headstock_finish=match body finish
> neck_finish=satin
> fingerboard=maple
> number_of_frets=24
> fret_size=extra jumbo
> inlays=sharkfins
> inlay_at_12th_fret=no
> fingerboard_end=square
> fingerboard_binding=yes
> headstock_binding=no
> binding_color=black
> nut=locking
> width=1 5/8''
> hardware_color=black
> bridge_system=Schaller Locked Floyd Rose Tremolo
> tuning_machines=Schaller M6 pickups=EMG
> pickups_neck=N/A
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=EMG 81
> control_knobs=volume + tone
> pickup_selector=N/A
> hard_case=yes

[TheDreadfulHoroscope]

these guitars seem pretty cool, besides ive recently been interested in haveing a 24-fret bridge unlike ive been able to find.

[BLS]

24 fret bridge..........

huh?

[Angel-Of-Death]

well i was thinking about getting one of these, but after i read all the crap soulinsane went through im a bit sceptical...

[DeathCS]

I doubt that will happen again if they tell customs exactly what the guitar is made of and stuff. Plus, Soulinsane could help you out with customs.

[BLS]

just wait til soulinsane's back... he will tell ya what you need to do.

[h4x5k8]

New ran out, copy of the dime guitars. Also getting mine in around 2 months, ill pot up some pics for everyone :vampire:

[Soulinsane]

Kick ass! Can't wait to see your guitar. Didn't you get a custom RR Invader?

[h4x5k8]

Kick ass! Can't wait to see your guitar. Didn't you get a custom RR Invader?
Yea i guess its an invader, i would just say a RR V Custom, cause thats how i pretty much explained it to dariusz

[Soulinsane]

Cool, like I said before. Post pics as soon as you get it. I love Ran guitars :love:

[Viking_power]

Im probably going to order my ran later this week. I heard of them a while ago, but soulinsane's praise closed the deal. Anyways on rans website under fret size they list extra-jumbo, but these are just jumbo frets like on a jackson right? And under tuning machines, what is the diffrence between the schaller M6 and schaller locked versions.

[BLS]

Extra Jumbo frets are what Ibanez and Jackson mostly use.

The locking tuners lock, the non lokcing dont..

If you have a locking nut then dont waste money in the locking tuners.

[Soulinsane]

Yea and post the specs, BEITCH! When you need help with anything involving Ran just post about it here or read back. I think just about everything has been cover at some point here. Ran has been getting crazy work from poeple reading this thread too ( check out the veiw hits :eek: ). Dariusz should make us all a Ran guitar for the support we have given him ;) I know he reads this thread too.

[Def]

I've sent in my custom quote, so I'll see what a kickass guitar costs, I oredered the following specs for my price quote:

Cruizer body shape, blue see through with flamed top, white binding, ebony fretboard (same binding) matched headstock (/w white binding) S-D pickups, neckthrough, floyd rose, mahogany body/neck, matched neck colour.

I wonder what it'll cost. but its just for fun. I guess its gonna cost a fortune. I'm not fond of their body shapes by the way. I like carved tops and rg shapes, but thats probably just me.

[Def]

PICS!

I payed 1050 Euro (<$1,200 USD) for the guitar, case, and shipping. $35 to convert and wire that money to Ran Guitars. $109 for the US Customs office ransom, I mean, duties and taxes. Total=$1,344 +/- USD, but that is not including the Kahler bridge.

I acually payed a bit more because I gave the Kahler bridge ($180 USD) to Ran for installation and cost $18 USD to mail it there. So my real total=$1,542 USD. Far better than what Jackson quoted my for the same guitar with the same specs; $4,000+ USD... Maybe when I'm a in a super rich metal band?... No, I am staying with Ran forever.

Owning my dream guitar... Priceless

I hope these pics turn out OK.
Sweet.

now I'm confident about buying one, finish looks great, but its a fucking shame I can't try one... but for that kind of cash its just sick!

you knew you had the customs going down on you, its the normal procedure here too when we get something from outside the EU.

BUT! since ran is in the EU I will not have to pay a lot of shipping and it should be here in one-two weeks if its finished. fucking hell, thats awesome, though I guess mine would run up in to the 2-300 bucks category? I'll probably make some changes, but damn, it sounds too good to be true. do you have any sounds samples of your Ran? and how long did it take in total to get it finished (in weeks?)

great thread by the way, I didn't bother to read up on it in the past but I went through all pages today, good shit.

[Def]

hah, I requested this one half an hour ago:

Dear Eddy,
Cruiser guitar in your specification with hard case will costs 1260 euro.

Best regards,
Dariusz Kuczynski.

> R_or_L_handed=right handed
> body_shape=Cruiser
> body_shape_other=
> construction=neck thru
> body_material=mahogany
> material_other=
> flamed_maple_top=yes
> binding_top=yes
> binding_back=yes
> binding_color=white
> pickups_neck=HUM
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=HUM
> finish=blue see-thru
> finish_other=
> headstock_shape=Cruiser
> headstock_shape_other=
> neck_material=mahogany
> reverse=no
> headstock_finish=match body finish
> headstock_finish_other=
> neck_finish=match body finish
> neck_finish_other=
> fingerboard=ebony
> fingerboard_other=
> number_of_frets=24
> fret_size=medium
> inlays=sharkfins
> custom_inlays=no
> fingerboard_end=square
> fingerboard_binding=yes
> headstock_binding=yes
> binding_color=white
> nut=graphite
> width=1 5/8''
> hardware_color=gold
> bridge_system=Schaller Fixed Bridge
> tuning_machines=Schaller locked
> pickups=Seymour Duncan
> pickups_neck=S. Duncan SH-1
> pickups_middle=N/A
> pickups_bridge=S. Duncan SH-8
> control_knobs=volume + tone
> pickup_selector=3-way lever
> hard_case=yes

That's a fucking steal!

I mean, seriously a neckthru with flamed top, bindings, ebony fretboard, all mahogany neck/body, sd's and custom build?

fuck yeah. I asked the guy if he could do the '80's kramer stagemaster carved bodys and do sustainer systems and shit. who knows. but this seriously puzzles my mind, it's CHEAP! ofcourse if I end up at around 1500 bucks its a bunch of money, but look at what ESP would charge for a guitar like that.. hell. and this is cheaper for me to get because I don't have to pay customs in the EU and the shipping is cheap....

[h4x5k8]

Well here is the story on my upcoming ran RR custom hopefully this post will answer some questions about ran, and for anyone who is buying a ran from the US. Here are the specs on the RR V custom.

R or L Handed-Right Handed
Body Shape-RR Flying V
Construction-Neck Thru Body
Material-Alder
Body Binding-No
Finish-Satin Black w /white pinstripes
Headstock Shape-Jackson
Neck Material-Maple
Reverse-No
Headstock Finish-Match Body Finish
Neck Finish-Match Body Finish
Fingerboard-Ebony
Number of Frets-24
Fret Size-Extra Jumbo
Inlays-Sharkfins
Fingerboard-End Square
Fingerboard Binding-Yes
Headstock Binding-Yes
Nut-Locking
Width-1 5/8’’
Hardware Color-Black
Bridge System-Schaller Locked Floyd Rose tremolo
Tuning Machines-Schaller M6
Pickups-EMG 81
Control Pattern-1 x Volume

Extra-Beveled edges with white pinstripes

Guitar-1020 EURO
Case-70 EURO
Shipping-180 EURO
Total-1270 EURO

I used http://www.foreign-currency.com/ to handle all the wiring and currency exchanging. There were many extra fee's i had to deal with partialy due to my pos bank (wells fago). First the Shipping, dariusz told me that he gave soulinsane a deal on the shipping since he was one of the very first or maybe even the first american customer, my shipping is so expensive cause ran switched shipping company's to a more reliable, fast, safer service. Me and soul are still trying to figure out if the shipping costs includes the customs ransom fee :behead: . First off i had to pay $30 to wire the money from my account to the DFX (http://www.foreign-currency.com/) account, then another $35 to convert my money to euro and transfer it over to rans account. So all in all the the guitar cost around $1690.05 and then once its shipped out if i have to pay customs fees itll be around $1800.00, IMO thats a pretty damn good deal for a custom guitar. Once all this is shipped out ill post up pics right away (i am getting a new digital camera just so i can take pics of this guitar, thats just how awesome i am :cool: ) and ill tell everyone what i think of the cases and what not that ran uses, but i wont really need to explain the quality of the uber guitar since soulinsane has already done that, but i will anyway. Also anyone have any suggestions for a high quality digital camera i should get?

[Def]

I've got a sony dsc-p72, those are like 200 bucks and can do pretty high resolutions, suits me just fine....

anyways, that Ran guy is fast replying to emails, the only thing that worries me is not beeing able to try the guitar before buying.

[h4x5k8]

I've got a sony dsc-p72, those are like 200 bucks and can do pretty high resolutions, suits me just fine....

anyways, that Ran guy is fast replying to emails, the only thing that worries me is not beeing able to try the guitar before buying.
I would take souls word and just trust them, if you dont like it you can just sell it on ebay for twice as much as you payed for it saying its some crazy good custom (cause it is) :D

[Viking_power]

R or L Handed= Right
Body Shape= Jackson kelly-star
Construction= neck thru
Body Material= alder
Flamed Maple Top= no
Body Binding= no
Pickup Configuration= Neck HUM Middle N/A Bridge HUM
Finish= black
Headstock Shape= cruiser (pointed)
Neck Material= maple
Reverse= yes
Headstock Finish= match body
Neck Finish= match body
Fingerboard= ebony
Number of Frets= 24
Fret Size= jumbo
Fingerboard Inlays= sharkfin
Custom Inlays= no
Fingerboard End= square
Fingerboard Binding= yes
Headstock Binding= no
Nut= locking
Width= 1 5/8"
Hardware Color= black
Bridge System= schaller locked floyd rose tremolo
Tuning Machines= schaller m6
Pickups= other
Control Knobs= 2x volume + tone
Pickup Selector= 3 way toogle
Hard Case= yes

Additional Instructions or Questions:
Red bevels on body.

[h4x5k8]

Yea theres this deal i found on ebay for a dsc-p73 and it comes with 256 memory card for less than 300.

[BLS]

Ha, Soul was the first american customer!!!

Thats cool, i want a 7 string Invader bad!!

[Soulinsane]

Wow, I was the first American customer! My Ran was also the first to have a Kahler too.

Def, I know how you feel about not being able to play a Ran first before buying, but I couldn't get any guitar company in the US to make this guitar for a good price and I had to look elsewhere in the world. I'm very happy with it though. It is what I expect a custom handmade guitar to be... FLAWLESS! It took like 17 weeks from the time I ordered until I had it in my hands. 4 weeks of that was shipping and being held by Customs office for me, but still fast for a custom made guitar.

Dariusz is great to work with too. He made mine with a Kahler and a Jackson headstock and all I did was send him pics and specs to help him. He will build you anything you want if your serious about the guitar. Labor is cheap in Poland and I believe Dariusz does all the work himself, so you get more for your money. That's why Rans don't cost that much. Ran is how guitar companies should all be, imo.

I don't have any sound clips but you can hear Ran guitars being used by bands like Vader at Empire records (http://empire-records.com.pl/eng/massive/mp3.html). Just about all those bands use Rans.

I wish I lived in Europe so I didn't have to deal with US Customs, but one day I'm going to visit Poland and Ran guitars just when Dariusz is about to finish my next Ran, so I can just take it back myself. There are now a few reviews at HC (http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/Data4/Ran-Guitars/) about Ran guitars, one of them being mine ;)

[Def]

Thanks for the answers Soul, you definetly 'gots the soul' haha

I read those reviews on HC, sounds neat. I'de like mine to have a kramer stagemaster body in mahogany, with a wizzard I neck and a Jackson dinky headstock.

that all neckthru, with s-d's, maybe a sustaniac, shit like that, but I'm not sure about having a trem on it or not, neckthru's have great sustain, a tune-o-matic bridge might be good, then again I do like trems, but it might be nice to have a guitar without a trem for once. Meh. at the cost he does Floyds, its actually a dumb thing not to have a trem on it.

I might ask him to do custom inlays too. as long as I don't end up above 1500 bucks, I'll be fine. I'm awaiting his next email now for details and I'll see what happens. I don't have the money in full right now, kinda like 900-ish, but if you can pay half in advance and the other half later on, it'll be ok, I might order it within a month if I can get my head sorted and think it all out.

[Soulinsane]

I was going to get a tune-o-matic bridge if he couldn't install the Kahler, but he did. I hope everything works out for your guitar too. Just send him specs and pics and he will be able to build that guitar with no problem. Dariusz is a very talented builder and normally e-mails back within 24 hours; I like that.

One day his prices will have to go up because he will need to hire help. I know he has been getting lots of orders this year and I wonder how he manages to get them all done in time. Anyway, get one while they are still cheap.

Oh yea, do you have any pics of a Stagemaster? I was just wondering what they look like myself.

[Def]

yes, t'is a stagemaster: http://i5.ebayimg.com/02/i/02/95/78/eb_3.JPG

I guess you're right though, he's incredibly cheap if you look at the specs of the thing I did as a tester, I couldn't get that anywhere for 1300 bucks, forget it!

I'm confident he can make it happen, if you see how he did your jackson headstock, looks great, I want one too, since I am looking to re-incarnate my once stolen dinky into a new design (the stagemaster with my specs, neck thru etc etc)
It would be awsome, I'de get elements of each my favorite guitars all stacked into one guitar!

[Soulinsane]

I'de get elements of each my favorite guitars all stacked into one guitar!

Thats what I did. Also that Stagemaster looks great. Is that yours?

[Def]

Thats what I did. Also that Stagemaster looks great. Is that yours?
No.

I was planning on buying it, its a rare piece. but the guy decided not to sell it.

anyways, for the cash I'de pay for that... I can get my own custom and add some shit I'de love to have on a stagemaster

[Def]

just got mail, they had server problems.

they can build it. it's going to be more expensive, but not too much at all, so I'm going to go for it as soon as I get all my details planned out. :)

oh, and Michael (soul?) Dariusz says thanks to you for letting me know about his instruments and the praise.

man, this rules! thanks from me too Soul!

[BLS]

Soul is single handedly selling rans.. but getting no profit :p

[Soulinsane]

No profit? I feel good helping folks get dream guitars for a good price. I could do this all day. Besides, he might hire me someday if I keep this up :p I'm kinda the Ran guitar representive of Metaltabs anyway.

Your very welcome Def, but I do expect some pics once you have it. I love looking at custom made guitars :stoned:

I will have to give Dariusz my new e-mail address so I can keep in touch with him. I didn't think he would remember me, but if he asked you to thank me then that has got to be good :)

[BLS]

of course he will remember his first american customer..

[Soulinsane]

And his first Kahler. I bet he didn't want to let that one go :bawling:

[Def]

No profit? I feel good helping folks get dream guitars for a good price. I could do this all day. Besides, he might hire me someday if I keep this up :p I'm kinda the Ran guitar representive of Metaltabs anyway.

Your very welcome Def, but I do expect some pics once you have it. I love looking at custom made guitars :stoned:

I will have to give Dariusz my new e-mail address so I can keep in touch with him. I didn't think he would remember me, but if he asked you to thank me then that has got to be good :)
I mentioned an american guy telling me that he'de be great to work with, plus you gave detailed info on metaltabs.com, well he does remember you, in 'polish' english 'say many thanks to michael!!' haha!

I have to send the guy some more pics for the stagemaster body, since its carved all way around and shit, but he's confident he can make it, so hell yeah! I'll definetly get some pics when I get it, but thats prolly gonna be in over 3/4 months, I haven't made my choices yet and knowing myself, it'll take a couple of weeks before I know all the details I want.

What I've come up with so far:

Darkblueish-see through finish
white binding all around (headstock, body, neck)
neckthru construction, all mahogany guitar
jackson dinky headstock (reincarnating my stolen DINKY!! TAKE THAT FUCKING THIEVES!!!!!)
Ibanez wizzard I neck profile (yes, I not II!)
Custom fretboard inlay (probably only a small inlay on the 12th fret, but I don't know what yet, I allready had 2 sharkfinned guitars and I want something a bit more classy for this pornoguitar)
golden hardware (making it a darkblue/whitish/golden guitar?)
s-d pickups (don't know exactly which ones yet, I'll try everything they have at musik productiv next week)
'custom shop' on the headstock under the Ran logo (or something else, like model DEF83 haha)

I'm still doubting about a tune-o-matic or a floyd, but I think I'm going to go with the OFR, since I enjoy abusing trems every now and then.

I need to have a sample of the finish so I'm probably going to steal a prs colour or something like that.

Full of ideas anyways, but this is pretty close to what my dream guitar looks like, hell, it packs everything I'de need in a guitar and its a perfect re-incarnation of the guitars I own or owned and would want to own but don't meet my specs (stagemaster..)

anyways, ideas are welcome, I'm still drawing it all up. does anyone know the adres of that online guitar maker thing Atif once posted?

[Soulinsane]

Good damn Def! That is going to be a nice guitar, but the more Stagemaster pics and spec about the Wizzard I neck the better it will help Dariusz. Plus it will help you feel that he has everything he needs to make it perfect. I sent him lots of info and pics about my order... you have seen the result :cool: I can't think of much more to add to your guitar to make it better, but a nice flame top might look nice though. I have always liked a mixer of Mohogany and maple in a guitar.

[BLS]

An ebony fretboard will contrast will that see ttanparent blue finish real nice.

Ebony exspecially looks great with no inlays. Man that guitar is gonna kick ass!

[Def]

Yup, ebony fretboard was my plan too, I only want one inlay at the 12th fret, but I have no idea what to put there yet.

I think I'll stick with the structure of the mahogany wood, flamed tops are.. I don't know, they allways 'look' fake for some reason, I don't know if I like them or not, most of the time I don't.

there won't be a lot of the structure visible though, because I'll be getting a really darkblue finish with just a little bit of shine-through. anyways, I'm allready a happy man, this guy can do anything you want him too as long as you supply him with pics and shit, awesome!

[Soulinsane]

How about getting "DEF83" on the 12th fret and skip the head stock label under the Ran logo?

[Def]

now that sounds like a nice idea!

[fritz]

Dariusz shipped mine today, and it is on the way.

If I can get hold of a digicam on campus, I'll send pics when it arrives.

More later.

[Def]

Dariusz shipped mine today, and it is on the way.

If I can get hold of a digicam on campus, I'll send pics when it arrives.

More later.
sweet, what specs did you get???

hope it gets there fast!

[Soulinsane]

Dariusz shipped mine today, and it is on the way.

If I can get hold of a digicam on campus, I'll send pics when it arrives.

More later.

SWEET :) :) :) If you need pics of it fast you could get a disposable camara, take pics, and have the store develope the film onto a CD-ROM disc. I did that and it worked Ok. I can't wait to see yout guitar dude!

Next week will be the defining moment with US Customs. I'm ready if you have problems :vampire: Get the tracking # from Dariusz and call the shipping company the day it gets to the US to see how much the Custom cunts want for ransom, if any. Pay them and keep on the shipping companies ass about picking it up from Customs fast before they get any new ideals. After that you should have it in about a day.

[Dissection]

I now regret not previously looking at a Ran.

BC Rich is so going to sue. ;)

[Soulinsane]

Nope. US copt right laws don't mean shit in Poland :D

[Dissection]

In the Immortal words of Peter Griffin:

FREAKIN' SWEET.

I like the Warlock rip-off. I wonder if I can get him to build me a custom RG rip-off.

[Soulinsane]

Yup!

[Dissection]

Really? Hmm. I think I'll give this guy an email.

The custom form wouldn't work for me for some reason.

[Soulinsane]

He will e-mail you back with a quote. Give it a day.

[Dissection]

No, I meant that the form didn't take. It gave me an error. It asked me who I wanted to send it to.

[Soulinsane]

Def said that Dariusz has had server problems. That or you didn't fill in all the fields.

[Dissection]

I did. But it brought up something for Outlook Express (which wasn't open, I might add).

[Soulinsane]

Hhmm! Scan it and open it. You pussy :eek:

[Dissection]

Dur-Hur, can't, ass. Can't copy drag down bars. And it didn't have an address to send it to. Found one afterward, and said "Fuck it, I won't have the money for it for at least a year."

[Soulinsane]

Maaaaybe... Someone put a ban on you at Ran guitars :confused: That or your IE options are set high for viewing PORN :D

[BLS]

I did. But it brought up something for Outlook Express (which wasn't open, I might add).

its called e-mail

its pretty fancy

[Soulinsane]

BLS get's it. No fear of Outlook for him :beer:

[DeathCS]

its called e-mail

its pretty fancy
yeah, fancy shit!

[Dissection]

its called e-mail

its pretty fancy

There wasn't a choice moron, and I know what Outlook Express is. It kept giving me a fucking ERROR.

or do I need to spell that out for you? Ass. :)

[BLS]

What was the error??

And yes... spelling it out would help me help you..

[Soulinsane]

yeah, fancy shit!

E-mail! Cyber wave of the future :scatter:

[Dissection]

I forget what it was. But I'm going to bed anyway.

Night, folks.

[Soulinsane]

Pussy!

[Dissection]

Fuck you, I'll try it tomorrow.

[Soulinsane]

I hope so 'cause if you miss out on good Ran deal while you have the chance I will point and laugh at you the rest of my life.

They will not be at this price forever folk's! Look what has happend to every other great guitar builder that started out this same way... Jackson, B.C. Rich, Ibanez, PRS, ESP, ect...?

Get the new Ran before they blowup into a major guitar company. Your kids will be glad you did so they can sell your guitar and buy a badly made Daisy Rock guitar. :love:

[h4x5k8]

hey fritz what guitar were you gettin again? like an RR or somthin?