I rant here.

[far_beyond_sane]

GROW THEM! USE THEM! COVER YOUR HOUSE IN THEM! PAINT YOUR WALLS WITH THEM! LIE IN THEM!

Argh.

I hate environmentalists for two reasons:

1) They dress bad, smell bad and hand me leaflets. I HATE LEAFLETS.

and more importantly,

2) THEY LIE TO US.

A famous hippie-cum-media-whore once said that they kept three sets of figures on any given data set - one to decieve the public, one to decieve themselves and the true ones.

I detest their lying, tofu-eating carcasses. Genetically modified foods are resting on enormous potential only limited by our ability to think of interesting and viable gene transfers. This is where the lies come on - the whole argument against genetically modifed foods goes like this:

"We don't know if they're bad"

Two tons of horseshit. We know. The danger to humanity is minimal, the only people who could be possibly affected are people with ALLERGIES. ALLERGIES!!! FAGGOTS! Do you think anyone in the Sudan has a fucking peanut allergy?? What a typical soft-ass Western conception. A nice snapshot of our stagnant gene pool. People with allergies should be fed corn with peanut genes in it designed to kill the allergenic and weak.

Another soft-media-porn quasi-left-wing scare job.

Genetically modify the world! Genetically modify Weija!

[slayme_returns]

You need to setup your own online rant column, sane. I'd mastubate to it.


My sister absolutely WILL NOT let my nephew eat anything peanut-related because of that.

[far_beyond_sane]

You're in it.


Here's an old one I recovered:

Maturity

(A marijuana induced f_b_s rant)

All the serious dark images in metal are offset by their immature shitty counterparts. For ever intelligent band with their own defined style that can hold mature interest, there's a shitty band who overuses the same tired old cliches that made metal "evil" in the first place. This is because the same conformist shit pervades our music the same as any other.

Nothing gets fucking tiresome quite like violating a taboo that isn't really a taboo any more - at least, not a taboo to us. We're all familiar with a lot of shit that most (the vast majority) of people would find extremely distasteful. Cannibal Corpse and Carcass will never never become mainstream bands, even if they have the shit marketed out of them on MTV - the subject matter is JUST TOO NASTY. It's a subculture by definition, and that's something that is pleasing if you (like me) believe that the majority of people are pointless vain self-serving arrogant stupid hunks of steak that blindly stumble into whatever aesthetic may happen to flop gasping in from of them. That's good because it keeps out the people who aren't attracted to it because of its very nature.

BUT! The problem that besets anything that has this subculture nature, this dynamism, is that it's cool. Blink 182 certainly didn't arise out of the Sex Pistols or the Cockney Rejects, it toned down the REAL punk attitude for its mass consumption. It became palatable. Unfortunately it also became soulless, lifeless, meaningless, messageless teenage gruel. This bollox is what keeps the cool, gets marketed and throws away the life.

And this is where the problem arises, and it's not just with the travesty that is Nu Metal. Media has brought this dark shadow of music into the place where people who identify with it, and now we get this weird fucking subset of people throwing out this retro-Arthurian bullshit, Manowar-style posturing and online swearing. It's enabled the really conformist shit to start in earnest, where idiotic little shits hide behind computer screens in an attempt to 'out-evil' each other, mulling over desparate fantasies and searching for somewhere to hang their hat and conform; to something, anything.

There's no way some pre-pubescent twit can comprehend the depth of expression that you can get out of dark imagery. In fact, I'd say some of the stupidest fucking people I've ever met in my life were at the same gigs as me. I see it every time I wear a shirt and some spotty ugly white misfit yells something at me (usually the name of the band, like I don't know what my shirt says). It sucks. A goodly slab of these teenage metalheads should be eliminated for contaminating the fucking gene pool.

That being said, I'm sure that I'm to some extent being a fucking grumpy and mentally ill 20 year old. I know I should be happy that I can listen to the same music as people I'd ordinarily never meet and we can be all nice to each other because we have something in common, but fuck that. Something is not enough. I can't stand no-account good for nothing dumb people, no matter what they listen to.

Who am I to judge?

Who the fuck cares???

The alternative is trying to be nice to mean-spirited conformist little cunts. To some people, Slayer IS Britney.

It's got to the point where if you called me a metalhead I'd punch you in the fucking eye. Labels are not metal.

[far_beyond_sane]

Pathetic Porno Pieces

Porn is one thing - a cliche. The genre is more stagnant than Rosanne Barr in an oubliette.

5. Porno dialogue

There are underground experimental Turkmenistani films about the danger of reciting haiku about colonic irrigation in Sanskrit filmed with nothing more than a camel and tension wrench that have better dialogues than pornos. Rarely to the participants actually manage to say something sexy, than say something that you know instinctively (even when you're 16 and it's hard to believe those people on the screen are, like, *fucking*) you should never ever say for fear of losing your penis to your immediately wrathful partner.

"Did that hurt you bitch?"
"Ooooooooooh yeah. My asshole is SO TIGHT. SOOOOOOO TIGHT!"

It's impossible to approach the above epithets without laughing. First of all we know the reality of this dialogue...

"Did that hurt you bitch?"
*noticeable pause in proceedings*
"WHAT?"
*male participant rolls out of bed clutching his testicles, eyes wide and screaming, patches of skin oozing blood from under the women’s fingernails*
"Don't you DARE call me a bitch!"

...and what's more it's too FUNNY. And chuckling puts you in a non-appropriate state of mind for efficient masturbation.

4. Plot-bereft beginnings

A women can walk into a house, ask the plumber a slightly double entendré question, be a teacher with a disruptive pupil (who looks about.... 30), know the postman's first name, wear any uniform at all with just one button undone too many, not have ‘a pen to sign with’ at delivery or basically exist, and she'll be immediately beset with a guy whose cock resembles a torpedo in both size or intent. The reality of a guy waiting in a bar for hours, buying drinks for strangers, having both his wallet and his heart agonized time and again to eventually go home with someone he doesn't *actually* like to fuck in a desultory manner before going to sleep and waking up and feeling immediately awkward looking at the leviathan lying in the bed prostrate and snoring like an adenoidal pig beside him must be too boring to film.

3. Über-male casting ability

I wonder why male porn stars fit into two categories:

1) Overweight middle aged white guys who look terrible
2) Guys who don't actually look stupid naked.

1) Overweight white guys are trying desperately to convince themselves that they're still, one day, going to be able to fuck that cheerleader they used to know. Even if she’s now 38 and works in a diner. The reality of someone else doing it makes that bile in their throat at their miserable failure a little less acidic.

2) Some of the population evidently enjoy watching guys who are built (everywhere) and aesthetically pleasing fuck. Maybe they’re just not overweight white males.

2. Tits

Alien life forms and frypans are supposed to be silicon based. NOT TITS. End of discussion.

1. Facial cumshots

WHAT is the OBSESSION with fucking for two hours then losing your load in some girls mouth from a distance? What sort of quasi-semen-worship is this? And afterwards the girl is obliged to smear the mess of dick juice and saliva EVERYWHERE. I think the Union of Uber-Whores withholds her performance fee if it doesn't cover at least 85% of her face. If a girl decided to suck YOUR penis in order simply to marinate her face in your semen, I think you'd do a bit of a double-take. It’s doubtful you’d complain, but you’d probably ask for an explanation afterwards.

As a guy, you're a rarity if you want to SEE your own semen. If you could fuck without semen, admit it, you'd do it, straight away. No weird used-condom-inch-thick-skin feeling on your dick after you came, no more ducking out to flush it down the toilet before it completely grosses her out, no more trying to do an overhand knot with one hand, no more accidents or fuck ups with condoms that may have well have been paper bags. (Trojan are shit. Don't use them. Ever.)

And the money-shot dialogue is the most ridiculous of all.

"I'm gonna cum in your mouth."
“Oh…ok…”

Is that for the benefit of the blind, who can't see your intention through the fact you have a handful of her hair and you're jerking off 3 inches from her nose? Honestly, that's equivalent to a guy standing on a cliff over sharp rocks with a rope around his neck, a gun in his hand, an empty bottle of poison by his feet… wearing a shirt that says "I'M GOING TO KILL MYSELF".

And stop smiling! That's the worse possible deviation from reality. Girls look startled and rather apprehensive when you're about to forcibly ejaculate on them - they VERY rarely stare you straight in the eye grinning in delight while lining up your dick with surgical precision to the epicenter of their face. And they never have that ‘benediction’ look when they get splattered with hot cum. That's a special kind of perversity that real life rarely has to offer. More's the pity.

Bless filth in all its forms. Life is not complete until I’m in porn.

[slayme_returns]

Awesome. Now THIS is a good thread.

[Def]

Hah, those are really good man, I agree to slayme, you should have an own column!

they do take a while to read but it's well worth it!

[Jarhead]

whoa dude, those fuckin kickass. thisll probably sound frigga gay to you, but if you want you can submit those to my site (http://angelfire.com/weird2/theantipop)

behold all that i have so far! a teenage angsty whine and a piece of crap about government parties

[slayme_returns]

Fellas, this thread will have to make do as sane's column for the time being, until I secure a proper place for him to empty out his twisted head. Sane's obviously, a potential hot property, and should be heard and read by more than just the members on this forum.


http://www.farbeyondsane.com

Rock on, Jim.

[far_beyond_sane]

Shit! Does that site exist??? That'd be trippy.

[walpurgis]

GO dI hope now/t

[slayme_returns]

Originally posted by walpurgis
GO dI hope now/t

Best Drunk Sentence Ever.



Sane, no it's not real. In fact, I'm gonna look it up right now and see if it's available to buy.


Yep, it's available. As well as .net, .org .shit .anything.

[far_beyond_sane]

It's quite an evil and sacreligious thought... I should get it. I don't know how though.

I wrote something the other day... I'll post it when I can find it.

[far_beyond_sane]

"2002, not much review"
(A f_b_s stream of consciousness rant)


Often I hear stories of people drinking. Rarely I understand their relevance to me and my version of "drinking". As a consequence, I tell this...

Tonight, I finishd work and I bought an expensive 6-pack of beer... I had three, and a guy turned up at my house... we shared the last few. Then people came over, and I had several beers with them, then got out the scotch. This scared some people, and I put a seriously dent in the scotch bottle with one other brave man... then I had another beer and then some people left my house... I celebrated by drinking more scotch. When it came time to toast the new year, I had a half glass full of scotch... dropped it like it was jelly. Maybe three shots in that. Scotch bottle was empty - mainly me drinking it. Started drinking beer again. Had a few more, and then everyone left, because it was 3am.

THEN I sat down with the five beers I see beside me now, and started drinking. Two of these five are empty. Now I have started typing.

Now you understand how I drink.




How does one define a year?

We could start with looking at the idea of a year itself. A year is a fairly arbitrary concept. An agglomeration of Greek and Roman ideas about the renewal of the calendar combine with the Australian love of alcohol and excess here to provide a fairly seirous holiday here on the southern isle of raging piss-artistry and stupidity.

At the end of the day, there's a million places you could claim a "true" end of year, and consequently real significance for celebration. Solstice sucks. At the end of the day, what have we?

A fat party.

Nothing more, an excuse for terrible self-destruction.

the thing that worries me is that we live in a place that needs an EXCUSE for doing this. Waggon-hitching to anything, we will celebrate the arse off anything if we deem it "necessary"... Real celebrations must be had! Enough of this colonial retardation! Kill the weak!

Happy New Year, you fucking bunch of cunts!

God I'd love my own site.

[Tattered]

Get a column!!.........''Sane's Column'' :beer: :D

[far_beyond_sane]

I wrote this shopping at Christmas. It is not angry.

***

"SMELL SHOPPING FOR THE STAID"

The 100% natural cosmetic shop is somewhat frightening.

I have seen them before, and always warily passed them by. Granted I am not ordinarily of the persuasion that heads without abandon into cosmetic shops, especially those populated by people who seem to be rather indeterminate looking and vegan, but still… there were female presents to buy, and if you have ‘taste’ (God knows where I acquired it) then things that smell good are worth purchasing.

Perhaps I sell myself short. A few too many years of tasting wine and scotch, and my tired whisky-sodden olfactory senses have enough kick in them to distinguish between ‘annoyed civet with gooseberries’ and ‘lavender infused with something inconsequential’.

When did we start complicating things like this? Not one thing in the shop ever had a simple name – no “lemon soap”, no “vanilla scrub”, instead a perpetual miasma of bizarre things with the inevitable tag of ‘being good for you’, whatever that means these days.

The theory that men only see in EGA (that is, in 16 colours) can be extended over the other sensory modalities – the same way ‘peach’ is a fruit and not a colour, ‘chocolate’ is a foodstuff for fat single women and definitely not a fragranced bodywash. Especially if it has a cheeky hint of raspberry. Cocktails have a cheeky hint of raspberry. Lotions should not.

In any case, this time, I headed in.

The first thing that hit me was the smell. A thousand supposedly sensitive odours from a thousand soaps, lotions, potions, oil, body scrubs, body washes, body foams, body restorers, revitalisers, after-wax creams, after-sun creams, all-natural, all-organic all-confusing formulas and emulsions combined and outdid their usually placid nature to assault my senses with a Louisville Slugger of scent. In the heat of a Sydney afternoon, the smell of the shop was physical. It punched me in the face like Mike Tyson Cologne.

In a philosophical bent, the smells immediately reminded me of the poor benighted females who perpetually insist on smelling like this. Somehow using it as a substitute for attraction, they change face creams and flavoured soaps daily in order to find that one that will remove the nagging doubt still hanging over their head that they are an aesthete’s nightmare.

Unfortunately, one of the rules of the universe applies here – ugly people who smell good are ugly. Their continual insistence on changing the aroma of their ugliness will change little. If only there was ‘self-esteem cream’ – but I digress…

A creature who worked in this shop must have been sizing me up the moment I slowed by the door, as she was at my side in an instant. This babbling British Mouseketeer positively oozed geniality – she knew a sucker when she saw one, and the gentleman with no hair staring incredulously at simple things like ‘soap’ was fair game. I only hope I can sell her a bottle of single malt one day, when she offends my sensibilities by pointing to the Laphroaig and asking “Is this good?”

In any case, I was treated to a whirlwind introduction to the wonderful world of bizarre, bizarre stinky stuff. In the first 30 seconds I saw enough yak’s milk buttock analyser, lost Himalayan Magyar fruit flavoured clitoral polisher and 37 ‘natural AND organic’ flavours of douche to last me the next year. It was unbelievable – if it comes naturally out of any animal or plant orifice, they’ll put it in a soap, weigh it, and charge you per hundred grams. All the products had a small treatise written about them and their purported effect, and the Mouseketeer seemed to know a few others besides. Overwhelmed, I named a flavour I felt comfortable with – “vanilla”.

Oops.

Immediately I was beset by suggestions – of course there was nothing that actually SMELT like vanilla but this one here was at least 35% coconut oil and it was guaranteed to perforate your skin with proto-lactin and twice on Sundays and there was this that had a hint of vanilla but it was more like a toenail balm but it has the same active ingredient as this body scrub that has inbuilt laser guidance and a persecution complex which had overtones of Meryl Streep… and so on, and so forth.

It was remarkable how seven or eight different smelling things off the shelf all contrived to become small, round and white when handed to me. Remarkably innocent looking, despite their ability to cure cancer and save the free world from epidemics while curdling goat’s milk to make cheese and playing the harmonica underwater with a side-order of coriander.

I paid for a few of the items that looked least dangerous and walked out, contriving a few jokes that got smiles rather than laughter, and went a small way to restoring my tattered and confused masculinity. I saw a soap that was designed for men that actually smelt good, and I was sorely tempted to try it, until I remembered that I had soap at home, and until now it had done a perfectly acceptable job of cleaning me… it wasn’t until I was out of the shop and further down the arcade that I realised my soap at home had never done anything for me, and couldn’t cook a three different veal dishes in under 20 minutes, and didn’t sing polkas while I scrubbed with it, and definitely didn’t perform vector analysis on the fractal patterns of moon rocks. But by then, it was too late to go back.

Why this female obsession with smell? What’s more, why these nth degree olfactory materials? Have you even smelt a yak, let alone yak butter? I think you’re getting very badly fleeced, that stuff is probably scraped off the middle-aged mailroom guy called Bernard.

A male cosmetic shop would have about 16 products, in a large square box on one wall. They would be labeled in rows “Smell Rich”, “Smell Sexy”, “Smell Dangerous” and “Smell Tough”. The columns would be the easily identifiable smells for the various products “Leather”, “Gun Oil”, “Clean” and “No Poof Smell At All”. When the shop was full, the “No Poof Smell At All” range would sell like hotcakes and many suspicious glances and dick jokes would be exchanged, an early opening would find single shoppers furtively buying the other scents. Around Christmas, the dispossessed heading to family reunions everywhere would be stocking up on the “Smell Rich” to avoid probing questions about occupation and success, the hopefully-to-be-could-probably-get-there-if-you-tried fuck festival called Valentine’s Day would sell the “Smell Sexy” hard… “Smell Dangerous” and “Smell Tough” would be bought by a continuous flow of edgy drifters with bulky packages under their coats who would sidle up and silently buy three or four at a time, while everyone else concentrated on staying out of their way.

And what would you call a male cosmetic shop?

"Smell Fuckable"

A fortune waiting to be made...

[far_beyond_sane]

Wrote this when the World Cup was on, a while ago

***

For the first time in living memory, an animal rights issue is becoming quasi-international.

The World Cup being held in Korea is providing fuel to the fire of the idiot activists who insist that it is thoroughly immoral to eat cats and dogs. Like the Koreans do.

Now, I love my cat very much. I value independance of thought above most other things, and there is nothing that a cat does that is depdendant, especially half Siamese cats. When I was a four-year-old and I got the cat, which at the time looked like a very very small tiger and had a temperament accordingly, I was absolutely delighted. Why? Because it had balls. Extreme character. The kind Ted Nugent has. It was a small female cat, and it beat the shit out of other cats, neighbourhood dogs as big as labradors, water-rats, possums, large birds, not to mention the utter decimation of the local chapter of mice. It gave me my space, and after it slashed me across the face for blowing air in its face, I learned to give it space too, stupid little fuck that I was.

Children, never blow directly into the face of an angry cat to see its expression change. Cats are real, not bovine and forgiving like the emotionally clouded people you're surrounded by.

Now my cat is old, and content to lie in the sun all day like a discarded tiger-coloured carpet, and like any old person should be it is dozy and happy to just eat, sleep and generally enjoy itself being an utter slob after a life in pursuit of the massacre of other species. It is pathologically clean, no more moody than my girlfriend and provides me with endless amusement by waiting out the front of the house in the sun for strangers to pat it, then biting them when they invade its space.

However, the sight of shaven cats on sale in Peking, or the thought of eating Kitten Laksa doesn't bother me. The only thing I'm concerned about is what they're fed on - I'm not sure about the purity of the flesh of something that eats catfood... I want 100% organic grain-fed cat if I'm ever going to eat it. Pensioners are the only living entities who should eat catfood.

Indeed, how do I achieve this ridiculous separation of pet and pate fois gras? Rationality. Animals are outrageously treated every day, in ever part of the world. Animals are bred on outrageous amounts of resources, slaughtered inhumanely and have their bodies dismembered and packaged in plastic so we can make admiring noises over their sizzling flesh at barbeques. Dogs are dumped by uncaring people who think having an overbred show dog is like having an antique vase - you put it in a cage and remark to other specatularly materialist wankers how pretty it is. Pathetic contemptible suburban fantasy-dwelling cunts. Hopefully they'll be preyed on one day.

We kill and consume all sorts of animals daily. Tuna, lobsters, crabs, prawns and oysters are pillaged from the sea and eaten - often they are boiled alive, often they are eaten almost alive, or raw. Cows, chickens, goats, kangaroos, deer, tortured baby calves and cuddly-wuddly lambkins are shot directly through the face or electrocuted and then flayed to pieces by industrial knives and marinated by fat Greek men with big hair on prime-time cooking shows. Geese are overfed and slaughtered, diseased and suffering, so we can eat their organs. Dolphins are hooked in draglines and brutally drowned, bleeding out their stupid blowholes as they become a filler in cheap tuna. Flipper, eat your heart out, because I know for sure I already have.

From this list of mass inter-species genocide, singling out cats and dogs as inedible is beyond retarded. The moral argument is about as convincing as Ed Gein's defence counsel. Let's break the evidence down.

Surely it can't be about intelligence. What are the animals that have been trained to the highest levels of cognitive function? Grey parrots and chimpanzees. We eat neither. Why? They taste like shit.

Likewise, it can't be about important function. To science? No. They are not a viable part of any ecosystem, they have no unexplored function - vet science, like real science, follows the money... and cats and dogs have been fully probed to the extent where we know exactly how they work, there is no cancer cure hiding in a cat's spleen.

Emotive function to people? No again. I don't think anyone's proposing on rounding up all the dogs given to dying orphans called Jimmy on Christmas morning and turning them into puppy parfait. Maybe breeding them and killing them, like we do everything else.

It can't be about equitable treatment, our previous list of transgressions towards animals makes killing the odd pooch seem like a mass murderer getting a jaywalking ticket. To say absolutely nothing of the animals we kill for clothes, resources or sport. Or as a byproduct of land clearing. Let's not descend into moral relativism on that one.

What are we left with? It's because they're cute. People, not content with applying their sterile and superficial standards on other people, are applying them on animals. I used to have a pet spider when I was a kid, a three inch black hairy venomous beast of a funnelweb. It lived in a jam jar. It was the least cute thing in the entire world but I liked it because it could have killed me. I can only assume we're all attracted to different things because the people in Thailand who eat spiders do not give one quarter of one shit about me and my stupid spider, they're too busy eating their own. John was killed eventually, my mother 'retired' him - he was an unsafe toy and not in the kids-bow-and-arrow-set sense, in the "If it bites me, I die horribly in convulsions" way...

Something interesting about standards - in Thailand they eat grasshoppers, beetles and locusts too... I wonder what they taste like? Probably crunchy. Someone told me one that beetles in soy were tasty. Anyway, as usual, I digress.

At the end of the day, if every tuna was called Puggles, if every lobster was cute and furry and liked being scratched under the chin, if oysters had style and character and could fetch sticks, if cows kept pests down or guarded warehouses, the wet-behind-the-ears animal rights faggots would see them differently too. I have never seen a more vomitously emotive issue paraded through the media than this.

The sooner our good friends the Koreans can get back to the wholescale slaughter of cats and dogs and eating their faces in public, the sooner we can all forget this ridiculousness. A rack of dog ribs can't be less healthy than chicken nuggets, at any rate.

[far_beyond_sane]

I have registered www.farbeyondsane.com... Thank you to slayme for answering my retarded questions during this process.

Soon the heresy will have a new home.

[Katham]

Yey...

I'm already sitting on pins!:cool: :mad: :D

[far_beyond_sane]

WE'RE IN FUCKING BUSINESS!!!!!!!

Click HNYAH!! -> www.farbeyondsane.com

Wait for the next few days to start seeing some structure and content.

[slayme_returns]

Start up page looks sweet, dude. Good job.

[walpurgis]

You should make the print bigger for us lazy folk :)

[atifman]

the home page looks excellent. just those two graphics ("enter" and "piss off") makes me anxious for the website to be complete.

[slayme_returns]

The Masturbate Over Far Beyond Sane Thread



I love it. I too, am anxious to see this beast in action.

[Tattered]

well the slag link doesent work for me.:bawling:


but nice layout...

[far_beyond_sane]

I lied. It's not working.

I will be away until the 16th. Going to a conference. Again.

[mrweijia]

yeah, i just noticed the link isnt working

[dimeisgod69]

ive perfected the one-handed over hand knot condom tie over time as discribed in the porn rant..

[far_beyond_sane]

I can't believe you can do that! Maybe my fingers are too big or something...

In any case, my website is finally f'ing updated.

[Dyldo]

I think Fight Club could sum up the some of the biggest problems in America. Heres some rants i gathered on how stupid society is in a ironic manner -

Only in America......are there handicap parking places in front
of a skating rink.

Only in America......do people order double cheeseburgers, large
fries, and a diet coke. (but glutony rules)

Only in America......do they have drive-up ATM machines with
Braille lettering.

On a Sears hairdryer: Do not use while sleeping.

On a bag of Fritos: You could be a winner! No purchase necessary.
Details inside

On Nytol Sleep Aid: "Warning: May cause drowsiness."

On a child's superman costume: "Wearing of this garment does not
enable you to fly."

And my favorite:
On an American Airlines packet of nuts: "Instructions: Open packet,
eat nuts."

"Who needs comfort? It's all goin down man"
"Martha Stewart..."
"FUCK Matha Stewart, Martha Stewart is polising brass on the titanic, its all goin down"

\m/ fight club \m/

[dimeisgod69]

sane....hand size has nothing to do with it grasshopper. you must be skilled in the ways of the fornicator. and when you can overhand tie the ultra lubbed fuckin-rubber with one hand it is time for you to leave

[far_beyond_sane]

Damn, man. I don't use them rubber thangs these days.

I updated my website. Now I make fun of cripples too! Check the Dear Jim section for fun and frivolity.

[far_beyond_sane]

More updates. Joy.

[far_beyond_sane]

Like the Marquis de Sade, MY WRITING LIVES! Updated. Rather a good one too, if I do say so myself.

Oh, and check in a few days for my magnum opus aimed at the self-help industry in general.

[far_beyond_sane]

Finished an article on the "War" loosely based on what I wrote here a while ago.

Represent (http://www.farbeyondsane.com/slag/war.htm).

[PantericA]

that's some good shit there, sane.:cool:

[far_beyond_sane]

Originally posted by PantericA
that's some good shit there, sane.:cool:

Well, cheers.

Updated (http://www.farbeyondsane.com/main.html) today.

Having great difficulty finishing an article about self-help for two reasons:

1) Not angry enough.
2) Started writing another war piece. (I know, another. Last one - promise.)

[far_beyond_sane]

Another update. I really enjoyed todays. I enjoy all things that are about porn.

[far_beyond_sane]

I UPDATE (http://www.farbeyondsane.com/), THEREFORE I AM.

[Nemo]

Damn, sane. You know i think you are a genious, and after reading trough you site, i know it to!

Keep up the good work soldier.

[atifman]

your links page don't have links man

[Nemo]

Don't complain atif... It's better than nothing...

[far_beyond_sane]

Originally posted by atifman
your links page don't have links man

The links (http://www.farbeyondsane.com/links/links.htm) page is in, you melanosed sputum puddle.

[far_beyond_sane]

Originally posted by far_beyond_sane


Having great difficulty finishing an article about self-help for two reasons:

1) Not angry enough.
2) Started writing another war piece. (I know, another. Last one - promise.)

Got angry. Finished the loser (http://www.farbeyondsane.com/slag/loserslose.htm) piece. Stopped writing the war piece. War is so incredibly fucking boring.

[deMANUfacture]

that was fuckin better than any war shit, i appreciated it:)

[nightrider06]

noone has been telling u its shit so id better let u know that ur site is really shit and pointless and is boring as all fuk to read, sorry but its true, dont take it to personal

[far_beyond_sane]

Originally posted by nightrider06
noone has been telling u its shit so id better let u know that ur site is really shit and pointless and is boring as all fuk to read, sorry but its true, dont take it to personal

Why would I take it personally? Look, it's your opinion and you're obviously a moronic one-track low-fi goat felching cockhead, so what's the problem?

I'm surprised you can read at all, you dribbling fucking baboon.

[The Doctor]

yeah, slurp hius insides out, sane!

[Nemo]

Genius! Sane, if i was that type of guy, i would smear u in chocolate, and make a goat lick it of u!(This is positive)

[sevenstringstik]

farbeyondsane is now my internet explorer home page :D

funniest shit ive read in a LOOONG time man!

meeek

[atifman]

wow awesome link page. now your website/phenomenon is complete.
what if this website actually gets famous, that would be interesting

[nightrider06]

kill me sane:behead:

[far_beyond_sane]

Originally posted by nightrider06
kill me sane:behead:

Get out of my thread unless you have something useful to say.

I am changing the site format. It is giving me a fucking headache. I hate nerd things. I'd rather be hating.

[far_beyond_sane]

I just updated (http://www.farbeyondsane.com/main.html). I went completely batshit crazy tonight. I wrote it down.


Just re-read it. It's fucked up. I think I might take it down tomorrow. I'm drunk, tired, hungover and sick of being an adult already.

[Nemo]

I just read the fuck-the-world pice u wrote sane, and there is one book you should read: "The Dice Man", by Luke Rhinehart. I think it's kind of what you meant in the end of the fuck-the-world pice, or atleast it might be something like it... Any way it's a great book, and it was a nice pice of writing. Kepp up the good work mr. Adult...

[far_beyond_sane]

Update (http://www.farbeyondsane.com/) day!!

[freek666]

i bet far beyond sane took alot of amphetamines today...

[far_beyond_sane]

Right prediction. Wrong drug.

UPDATE!! (http://www.farbeyondsane.com/)

[freek666]

ok then, beer?

[guitar_demon]

thats what im thinking beer but in your links page you did not include our cozy little hell hole here why did you choice to ommit it ?

[far_beyond_sane]

Originally posted by freek666
ok then, beer?

Clever man.

The links page isn't exactly comprehensive. Didn't I put Metaltabs in?

[The Doctor]

yeah, wrong man, and my site's missing too:( ;)

[far_beyond_sane]

ANOTHER UPDATE! I AM SO RETARDED! (http://www.farbeyondsane.com/)

More coming and all. Damn brain.

[far_beyond_sane]

Well, I never really stopped writing, I just stopped updating my site and let the little fucker flow away into the dross of the internet.

However, I have obtained myself a very simply formatted site and BLAMMO! Back in business.

It is not pretty or complicated. It is, however, going to be rather unpleasant.

Billingsgate - where bad verbs go to die (http://billingsgate.blogeasy.com/)

Enj.

[Rapture]

lol. good shit man.

[Tattered]

Legendary stuff. wow this thread is old.

[Rapture]

Legendary stuff. wow this thread is old.

you're old, BITCH


OHHHHH, BUUURRRRNNNNEEEDD

[BigOldNessie]

i pretty much agree with the first post on this thread. we've been genetically engineering foods since the native americans were crossing strains of corn and maize. i don't think anyone really got credit for it though until that monk guy in the 1800s with the pea plants. the only difference is that these types of engineering were done in the field instead of the lab, but they all boil down to the same thing. you are deliberately fucking with nature to raise crops of a favorable strain, and i say more power to them. i have no fucking problem with that. humans run this planet and that's just how it is.

the only thing i do have a problem with is when certain companies start using their patents for gen. eng. foods to break down the smaller farms and family owned crops. take the guys who made round-up, a powerful herbicide that kills pretty much everything that grows. the guys at round-up created a gen. eng. soybean that was immune to round-up. they then patented the soybean and sold the beans to farmers here in the U.S. well, to keep up with competition driven by lower costs for killing weeds due to just once a year spraying of round-up, farmers had to purchase these beans to keep from being driven out of business.

now for the shitty part. you can only buy the stock for these beans from round-up, and after each year, whatever crops are not harvested have to be completely destroyed. then you have to buy a completely new stock FROM round-up to start a new crop instead of raising beans from the ones you've already grown that are left over at the end of the year. and round-up takes this shit serious. if you decide not to purchase round-up ready beans the next year, then they send inspectors to your fields to make sure absolutely no DNA evidence remains. is it impossible to manually remove all traces of round-up ready DNA you ask? Yes. That is why if you wish to stop purchasing from round-up, your fields have to remain fallow for the next 3-4 years, only after completely burning everything in sight to incinerate any remaining DNA. If round-up ready DNA is found on your fields and you are not currently under contract for purchasing round-up ready soy beans, you can be sued for pretty much everything you own by the company. so farmers now are being forced because of competition sake to make a deal with the devil so to speak.

so this is my gripe with gen eng foods. it has nothing to do with their safety. to me its an issue of whether an entity should be allowed to patent another living organism. we'll probably see a lot more of this shit in the future also.

[BeastOfCarrion]

ha ha, nice f_b_s
if you care for suggestions, then i think it would be niffty if you wrote a little paragraph about why you hate them. e.g.
#43 Any teenage goth who writes poetry
........"Bliss, ignorance, the world hates me, i am so lonely, where is my razor" You would have found your razor and helped cure the world of stupidity by now if you didnt wate time trying to get attention because your parents don't love you.

well, something like that, but im sure if you did it there would be a variety of inventive, offensive words.

[Tattered]

you're old, BITCH


OHHHHH, BUUURRRRNNNNEEEDD

What the...?

[BeastOfCarrion]

What the...?
ha ha ha, if your profiles are acurate, then he is older than you.

[Rapture]

damn. you're right.

[Tattered]

Haha, yeah, so.. still it made no sense did it. :rolleyes:

[Rapture]

i was refering to how you said "wow this thread is old", and, being the immature loser that i am, i came back with the classic "YOURE OLD"

[far_beyond_sane]

Let's play a guessing game.

Guess who got a new domain name.
Guess who got a ton of new stuff to put up.
Guess who, against his better judgment, is publishing his shite again.

Wrong. It's not Richard Simmons.
Wrong again. It's not The Green River Killer.

It's fucking ME, you whoreson cornholer.

A word on the name - Doctor Cuntsworthy will be familiar to some of you. Another alter-ego, if you will. He's like me... but worse.




Of course - the fucking link!

ENJOY. (http://www.drcuntsworthy.com/)

[guitar_demon]

alright! bout time FBS, your banner and buttons arent coming up for me though....

[Cloaca]

Excellent, Herr Doctor!

[far_beyond_sane]

alright! bout time FBS, your banner and buttons arent coming up for me though....

Still a shell site. Give me some time - as much as you might think I'm so transparently brilliant, nerd matters confuse me utterly and anything more complicated than an HTML tag pushes the clutch pedal on my brain. I need a webmaster who isn't a complete fucking moron like me.

[FearFrost]

The offical "I gizzed my pants reply". :love:

[guitar_demon]

Still a shell site. Give me some time - as much as you might think I'm so transparently brilliant, nerd matters confuse me utterly and anything more complicated than an HTML tag pushes the clutch pedal on my brain. I need a webmaster who isn't a complete fucking moron like me.
haha, I can see you sitting there, your eye just twitching-the veins on your head pumping insanly and you punch a hole in the damn computer screen :)

[Slabbefusk]

This is fucking awesome! Its a source for inspiratioN!

[far_beyond_sane]

ENJOY. (http://www.drcuntsworthy.com/)

An official update - it's online, it's working (thanks to the intervention of clever people who are not me) and it's getting content right. the. fuck. now.

Yay.

[guitar_demon]

yay :D

[Chris Rezendes]

I went to your site, and in finding no content, decided maybe nobody had quite asked you for any advice yet. I decided to get things started by asking you for some advice about my relationship with my best friend. When you read this, trust me, you will be overwhelmed with how much you have to work with. You will have a blast when you see it. Don't take it too seriously, it's all in good fun.

Don't be a cunt, remember- I really need your advice!:(

[far_beyond_sane]

Take it too seriously? It gave me warm feelings, and not of the leaky bladder variety.

[i_hate_nu_metal]

sane, your site's not running, dude.

[brainsforbreakfast]

I like the total lack of design, and the unpleasant spacing of the comments.

[far_beyond_sane]

Bollocks. It's definitely running. I've been dicking with it all morning.


I like the total lack of design

With a total lack of webdesign skill, you too can have a piece of cybershit just like me.

[brainsforbreakfast]

With a total lack of webdesign skill, you too can have a piece of cybershit just like me.

Isn't that all we wanted when we were young?

[Chris Rezendes]

Isn't that all we wanted when we were young?

I wanted to be a Culinary Specialist (pizza delivery man) or a Waste Management Technician (trash man) when I was a kid. Damn those dreams that don't come true! :(

I also wanted a van, but that's neither here nor there.

[Soulinsane]

Love the site dude! Awsome! Just fucking awsome :beer:

[Transient]

i like to complain too

Anybody who types "u" instead of you. I don't care if I've said this before. U is not a word. You is. ADD TWO LETTERS.

Weightloss commercials. Now most people I talk to also dislike these. But seriously, somebody has to be buying this garbage for there to be a constant barrage of new commercials weekly. If there was some magic pill that made you lose 80 pounds in a week it would be on every news show in America. Think for a little bit. Image if there is an exercise machine that worked out every muscle in your body and required only 3 minutes of use. Try and pretend that it really works. Now, why would this thing be advertised at 11:30 PM for half an hour on UPN? Wouldn't it be all over the place? Why do you idiots continue to stock up on this garbage?

Whenver I watch IMUS in the morning, there's always adds for MSNBC.



IMUS is broadcasted on MSNBC.


WHY?! What advertising executive came up with the bright idea to advertise your channel on your own channel?

Gum. Gum is ok every now and then, but for the most part all it does is make your next meal taste minty. Besides, the whole point of putting something in your mouth is eating it, not chewing for a while then getting rid of it.

"Sally has a jar of 20 jelly beans. She only likes orange jelly beans. There are 5 orange, 5 lime, 5 licorice and 5 grape. How many does she have to pull before she is guaranteed an orange flavored jelly bean?" Find a better premise for your math problem. The reason they color jelly beans is specifically this, so that little Sally doesnt have to solve a math problem every time she wants an orange one.

Shirts that say "quality manufactured outwear/apparel/goods". Just because your t shirt costs 40 bucks doesn't make it a quality manufactured outerwear garment for sports activites. I want to see a t shirt that says "This cost 5 bucks at walmart and is made out of half polyster." That'd be great.

"Coinkydink". It's not a word, stop it.

Cuckoo clocks. Why would someone want a clock that sounds like a bird? Why do people like clocks that make noise in general? If a guy followed you around your house and tapped you on the shoulder every 15 minutes and said "hey man, 15 minutes just passed" you'd kick him out of the house. But when it's a piece of wood on the wall it's admirable.

Good charlotte, all pop punk, pop ups more than anything, school, teachers who don't know what they are talking about, teachers who can't teach, block scheduling, summer heat, humidity, when tv channels move the times of my favorite shows around, when football games run into the simpsons on fox,when air conditioners don't work, viruses, the GATOR company for all it's irritating spyware, when computers don't work,changing guitar strings,updating this, most people, the kids that walk around in the mall wearing korn hoodies that think they're so hardcore, the 20 year olds that hang out at the dance dance machine all day long (Get a job), people who talk to much, people who i don't know IMing me, faking a smile, fake laughing, paying attention to people, slipknot, any form of music that fakes what it is, people who don't respect other people, thunder and lightning at night time, going to phsyical therapy, rain when it's not supposed to, loosing money at the track,hiccups, moths and bees and spiders, bloody noses, telemarketers, going to the doctors,


Rap songs that revolve around one sound or word. That new r kelley song is a perfect example.
Eating lunch at 10 in the morning.
In my flex there's 29 people on c days, and 7 on a days. Why wouldn't they switch the schedules around to even things out?The typical IM conversation: Hey, Hey, what's up? nothing much you? nothing. End of conversation. Don't bother me unless you have something to ask or say.
When roadrunner goes down. No one pays a premium for constant internet access to have it shut down every now and then.
Font that hurts your eyes. Like pink on green.
www._____.cjb.net popups.
Viruses, trojans,worms. Any computer problems.
Being alergic to things.
Having to wait 80 minutes for a class to end.
People Who Type With All Capital Letters Because They Think They Are Smart.
People who say they play an instrument but really don't.
People who say they listen to all kinds of music. What they mean is they switch between MTV and VH1.
Movies that last too long.
People that have no self confidence at all.
Anyone who laughs too hard at a joke.
People who write all over their bookbag with white out.
Taking foreign languages like French and Spanish.

Bands with bad singers. Why are people still listening to bands with singers that can't hold a note for more then a second or carry a tune?

The smell of cheap leather.

Any band that incorporates religion into music, be it for or against. Mostly for. Christian music is terrible. You can ALWAYS tell it's a Christian band.

Poor production on cds. We live in an age of digital editing, get it together and record something where you can hear the instruments seperately.

Anybody who thinks death metal is "gothic". It's an entirely different genre, before you make jokes about me wanting to kill myself or listening to korn learn about the music.

Anyone who says something was "schizo".

Anyone who puts "zz" or talks like they're from "the hood". Even if you're just kidding and think you're funny. You aren't. It isn't funny. Knock it off, moron.

Anyone who says a person is "on crack". No, they aren't. Also not funny. Once again: Knock it off, moron.

People who wear pajammas to school. Get up, shower, get dressed. Slob.

People who ask questions merely to break the silence.

Jokes about Martha Stewart decorating her jail cell. It was NOT funny the first time. It definately isn't funny hearing it for at least the 50th time.

The people that walk down the hallways and rap to themselves. What are you thinking? You steal lines from other people, you stumble with words and make a fool of yourself. You aren't a professional. I don't want to hear your shrill voice rapping about your rims and guns at 8 in the morning. Especially because you don't have either.

Anybody who quotes the Chapple show. Every day at least 2 or 3 times I hear someone imitate Chappelle immitating Rick James or Lil jon.

People talking about Bush. So many people who don't know a thing about politics complain about Bush. SHUT UP. He's not a good president. But you don't know a thing about him. Unless you study politics I don't want to hear a word from you about how he's raising taxs or complaining about the war. If I could vote I would seriously consider voting for Bush just to spite you ignorant, whining morons.

NEW

When people say hello to you when you're a far ways away. It's bad enough being polite to someone I don't know, but I really don't want to have some idiot say hi when they're a good 20 feet down the hall. Then you have to pretend like you're looking at something on the walls.

The whole trend of things being "random". Everyone thinks it's so funny when people do something "random". The new Quizno's commercials are a good example, people love them because they're random. The MTV "Wake up" things in the morning are another good example.

Shirts that promote jobs/places. YOU DIDN'T WORK AS A SO CAL LIFEGUARD. DON'T WEAR A SHIRT THAT SAYS YOU DID.

Lag on Socom II. Either get a decent connection or don't play. I realize most people don't play video games and have no idea what I'm talking about , but there are few things worse than getting shot from around a corner because someone has a terrible connection.

William Hung. He isn't funny. He's obviously retarded or mentally challenged, but retarded people who can't sing well are all over. Why'd he get famous? I'm sick of seeing his face all over everything.

The whole fascination with things from the 70's and 80's. All the stupid pants and the slang is getting popular again. Along with the movies and tv shows. They were boring back then, now they're boring and dated.

Hippies. I hate everything about hippies. Their clothes,hair,music, ideas, attitudes.



Any kind of fidgeting. Tapping your fingers, whistling, humming, all of it. Sit still and act like you're older than 4.

Kill Bill. I just watched that movie, and I think it's the worst movie i've seen in the past 4-5 years. Absolutely terrible plot, extremely forced dialogue, and it was so tedious and deliberate that even the fight scenes were boring. You don't care about the main character (I think they actually bleeped out the name for some idiotic reason). The movie just goes along with the current obsession over all things Asian. Anime, books, culture. I'm sick of seeing it. If you love Japan so much move there. I'm off topic here....back to my main point: don't ever see this movie.

When people talk and it sounds like every thing they say ends in a question mark.

People bragging about how they drink coffee. Drinking coffee does NOT make you cool. Just becuase your parents let you have a little sip in the morning does not make you an adult. Even if drinking coffee did make you cool, I would reign supreme because I've been drinking it since i was in kindergarten.

When someone is reading something they want to tell you about, but instead of turning around and telling you what they're reading they laugh or read outloud so you have to ask them. It's always about something you don't care about too.

When someone walks into the classroom and closes the window. When it's 80 degrees the window is open for a reason. If you're too much of a sissy to sit next to a window thats open less than 3 inches move up to the front.

Old people. Everytime I watch tv (the only tv worth watching is IMUS IN THE MORNING) I see a commercial or movie ad with an old person doing something you wouldn't expect. Old people are not funny, neither is seeing them doing things like standing on a heating vent or flipping people off.

People asking me for stuff. No, you can't borrow a piece of paper. Yes, I have more than 50 pieces right infront of me. It's the principle:you're such an idiot you can't remember to bring paper to school. You know what happens if you don't remember to bring your equipment to work? FIRED. I only wish you could get fired from school for being lazy moocher.

Everytime the phone rings in class some idiot always says "I didn't do it!". Either this person saw the Simpsons once or wants everyone to think they're cool and a rebel. Either way I hate them and their pathetic attempt to fit in.

B.E.T. commercials. Why are you always hollering? Calm down.

Fighting. It doesn't happen as much as it used to, but people fight over the most idiotic things. It's always at least one "wigger" invovlved, trying to show that he's a toughguy by fighting with them. I wish they were older so they'd get put in jail.

Kids playing outside. Where I live is surrounded by little kids that are about 9 and they all love playing outside. All they do is scream and holler and get all excited over their games. When I was 9 I didn't play baseball in the street and get in everyone's way. I played Grand Theft Auto.

People cutting down trees. Just about everyone in my neighborhood has gotten the bright idea to cut down trees. Now not only do I have a better view of your house and you in your backyard I get the pleasure of hearing a chainsaw for at least one day. You bought a house in a neighborhood that used to be a FOREST. FOREST MEANS TREES. MOVE TO THE MID WEST IF YOU DON'T LIKE TREES. This also goes for people who de-limb trees. Everytime you take a limb off a tree someone should take a limb off you. And no, this is no because I'm a tree hugger. It's because I'm sick of hearing chainsaws going all day long.

When anyone belittles the weather. If it's 90 out and I comment on it, I don't want you to respond with something like "yeah, it's pretty warm."

Whistling or singing along, you can't sing as well as the original vocalist. Show that you know the music by doing something less irritating.

When a teacher yells at the class for something the other class did. "THERE IS A BACK TO THIS TEST." "RINSE OUT THE GLASSES".

Anyone who doesn't know how to use a stereo. The kind of person that puts a cd in and then hits whatever the preset is, like "rock" or "classical". If you don't have a discerning enough ear to hate the presets you shouldn't be allowed to listen to music.

Moods. Anybody who has moods. Instead of developing an interesting personality or having anything interesting to say they have mood swings so you have to talk to them. Usually they complain about being tired or really nervous about a test. Sleep and study, and don't pester me.

When you're talking to someone and they say "That's gotta be ____". Problem #1.)You're talking to me. Problem 2.)There is no way to reply to this. You can say "yeah" and that kills the conversation. You can say "no" and that makes the other person(rightfully so) feel like an idiot.

Going along with my moods hate: emotions. I hate people who have emotions almost as much as people who have moods. I can go for months at a time without feeling emotions. I defiantely don't inflict them on other people. If you have to be a little sissy and have emotions don't take them out on me.

Little soda cans. Apparently they're a new product, instead of a already small can of soda they now sell soda cans cut in half. This is one of the most idiotic things ive ever seen. What is the point of drinking half a can of soda, especially because its always diet,caffeine-free. What a stupid idea. Be a man about it and either dont drink any or drink a whole can. This is just one more way companies are encouraging the sissy ways of our society.

Cell phones. It's bad enough when one goes off in a restaurant, but now just about every kid in school has one. AND they go off in the middle of class. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? NOBODY IS IMPRESSED BY YOUR DECISION TO SPEND 300 DOLLARS ON A PIECE OF PLASTIC. NOBODY THINKS YOU'RE COOL BECAUSE YOU GOT SHAFTED BY NOKIA.

People who drop pencils or pieces of paper in class, then have the audacity to expect me to pick it up. First of all, that's not gonna happen. Second...if you weren't a squirmy little brat this wouldn't be a problem in the first place.

Most people's profiles on AIM. It's always the same thing,that one idiotic "if you cut my throat i'd bleed on your shirt" quote. That and those pointless "....copy into profile" ones. Try listening to a different band for once.

Translations on tv. Everytime I see a person speaking a foreign language on tv there's always somebody talking over the voice and translating it as the person speaks, and the translator usually has an accent too. Why wouldn't they eliminate the foreign language, have somebody translate it, then have the newscaster read the translation?

When somebody types like this: OMG LOL0rZ IM A NOEBZ!111 thinking they are funny. It isn't funny at all, everybody has seen it, nobody actually types like that anyways.

Pig tails. Could you make your hair any more hideous?

Anti-drug commercials. Seriously, what are these trying to accomplish? Show the video of the little girl getting hit by a car and the reaction of a teenager will ALWAYS be laughter.

Low-carb. Again:shut up. I don't want to hear about your low carb bread or amazing new diet.

"Diversity" and "Embracing Others". I've been told that I should appreciate and respect people who dress and act different. I don't. If you're going to put your hair in big stupid spikes and wear pseudo gothic t-shirts and capris there is no way I'm going to appreciate your personality, or even talk to you. Anybody who relies on image to portray their inner self is a complete waste of time. Your "stare at me i might do tricks" t shirt doesn't express yourself anymore than my regular shirt. These people have such weak personalities they need someone elses ideas to get attention. Then if you mention what they're wearing to them they always get all defensive. If you wear a red scarf and a three sizes too small shirt I'm gonna call you on it. And yet it's the morons with the dog collars on that always end up getting defended by the adults.

People who walk around with their eyes half shut.

Nature. Nature is so ridiculously over-complicated its hard to even comprehend. Why are there plants that require a certain amount of sunlight and temperature? Why are there animals that live on ONE PLANT ALONE? It would be so much more simple for everything to have evolved to have one producer, one consumer and one decomposer. That could live anywhere, that way you wouldnt have thousands of species that occupy tiny little segments of the world.


full on rants

good charlotte:
I hate this band. In fact, I hate them so much I'm having a hard time figuring out where to start. Well, punk is music that is rebellios, offensive, and should be short and catchy, to keep the attention of the average punk music fan (hard task).It takes pride in knowing that just about anyone with a few fingers and an instrument could play and create this "music". Why, I'm not sure. But anyways, Good Charlotte is a walking contradiction to everything that is "Punk". Very rich, annoying, and full of themselves. Why is it that they can get away with this? 'Cause we let them. No one ever thinks about why there's music like this circulating. It's because musical standards have been lowering and lowering as the years pass. Look at classical music, the real starting point of music. Then look at Good Charlotte. See? And of course, with any rule there are exceptions. Good charlotte are the most pathetic, over produced, irritating, conceited band to ever labeled themselves punk. I was watching an interview on CNN with benji and joel talking about their hard child hood. They mentioned their dad leaving them when they were little, and how angst-filled they were about this tragic event. First of all, with the way they dress and act, it's obvious they never had someone to straighten them out as a kid. Secondly, if I was unfortunate enough to father to brats like that, I sure wouldn't leave. I'd stick around and beat some sense into them every time they did something stupid. I also noticed that they have tears tatooed onto their eyes and cheeks. What're you crying about? Mercedes dealer run out of cars? Almost as bad as the band themselves is their followers. You know the kids with the red plad pants and the dorky looking hair, and they all reek pretty bad, too. And, a lot of them carry thoose stupid purse things instead of a real bookbag. And, to make themselves appear even MORE Hardcore, the purse is covered with pins promoting bands like "NOFX" and "GC" and "GREENDAY" and "BLINK". You probably recognize "This is the anthem, throw all your hands up, I don't wanna be like you". Why do these easily led sheep fail to see the irony in this? They ARE being just like everyone else! These days, it's people that wear american eagle clothes that are in the minority. I can only reassure myself that this is just another,horrible,horrible,horrible trend that will fade away. I don't really have a problem with real punk music, and I don't hate the average punk listener. What irritates me the most is people that pretend to be hardcore, but really are about as hardcore as N*SYNC, just the band tag is written in old english font.

Go to a store, and buy as many GC cds as you can, and break them. Better yet, shoplift them. That way GC doesn't get any money from it.

goths/political kids
I hate these kids. The ones with the black hair and clothes and that kinda thing. Here's why-

The music- They think they're hardcore and anti people and anarchist and everything else that they aren't just because they listen to KRABATHOR and DIMMU BORGIR and HELLVOMIT. Huh, with names like that, they MUST be heavy! Oh wait, it's just cheesy 80s metal drowned in keyboards, fake drumming blast beats, and fake vocals. Some real talent there. Just 'cause a band stands for something you like, doesn't mean the music is good. Try listening to some good metal, moron.

The clothes- Thoose really unique JNCO pants you buy from hot topic make you elite. You're special. You went to the mall just like everybody else to buy clothes. You are no different from someone who shops in abercrombie. These days, to make a statement, you'd have to go pretty far. Maybe wearing a diaper and a bow tie to school would make you hardcore. Cause that'd be different. But, just like the punk kids, the whole goth thing is just another trend, no different from anyother. Sorry, you're in the same boat as NSYNC fans on this one.

The hair- You've seen the little smug brats with their ridiculous hair. Looks like they haven't washed it in about a month, all greasy and shiny. Then they decide they're going to do something really stupid, to make a statement. Sometimes its get all your hair cut except your bangs. Sometimes its make really big irritating spikes. Whatever it is, whenver you see one of these idiots walking around, their hair looks equal parts disgusting and stupid.

Their attitude- Well, it depends on the kid. They don't think of themselves of anything but hardcore. Don't buy it. Chances are, they're just like you and me. Go home, eat dinner, maybe go out to a movie, maybe get allowance and "buy" something for yourself. It's all the parent's money. They get food, housing, clothes, everything they want, and their parents foot the bill. Luckily, the way they dress, the change clothes only once a week or so, so it's not costing the parents to much. But regardless, we live in middle class white bread suburbia. Stop compaining so much. And cut it out with the vampire thing. Then there's the kind that basks in self-importance, and walks down the hall way with their cliquy friends, making fun of everything they see.

I'm so sick and tired of this ridiculous goth garbage. Stop acting like a fool, grow up, get rid of the attitude, hair, clothes, and for the love of god get rid of that music, and stop being so immature.
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I hate political kids. The 15 year olds that complain about president Bush, the war in Iraq, or even worse, the ones that say we should be anarchists, and draw the anarchy symbol all over everything. First of all, any 15 year old has absolutely nothing to complain about, unless a relative/family friend is in the war. And, none of them follow the news at all, they just listen to their parents complain about things, and then repeat it in a dumbed-down version. Even worse are the kids who attempted to protest for peace back in March. Absolutely no one cares what the opinion of an uneducated and unintelligent teenager is. World politics and relationships are some of the most complicated and intricate things in the world, yet teenagers seem to have it all figured out.

[LordofStorms]

:rofl: ^ That is by far the longest post I've ever read. :rofl:

[Soulinsane]

^^ You got issues :)

[brainsforbreakfast]

Where did you get that list tranny? I read it somewhere before..

[Transient]

its in my subprofile on aim and ive posted it one before


and nah, i dont have issues. im an observer

[far_beyond_sane]

i like to complain too


I was tempted to quote your whole post and reply "Oh". But I think that would crash the server. Damn, you don't like a lot of things do you? You need a hug. I need a hug. Let's synergize.

[Transient]

hahaha yeah, i really dont like much


at least we aren't alone!

[Bia]

I LOVE to HATE.

haha

[Dissection]

Things that can't stand:

That blubbering Vagina Bill O'Riley. That two faced sack of shit wouldn't know fair and balanced if it bit him in the ass. Speaking of which, I hate the entire Fox News Channel, minus Neal Cavuto, because he isn't an Extreme Right Wing cock ass like the rest of his co-workers. Especially Sean Hannity. What a douche.

Tampon Commercials. The next time I'm enjoying a nice family get together, and have to hear my 4 year old cousin ask my grandfather very loudly "WHATS UH TAMEPON?" I swear to you, I'll kill myself.

Women. Minus the whole helping of the propagating the human race, they are useless windbags but nothing better to do than bitch about housework that isn't done, and then get emotional when you finally tell her to shut her fucking mouth. Eat shit you waste of fucking sperm. (note, spousal abuse is fucking wrong. Just figure I'd save the time on that one).

People who think they are better than others. While most of you peg me as one of these people, I'm merely here for comic relief, and an occasional fuck up where my brain lapses, and I say the wrong thing at the wrong time. Back to the subject at hand. People who think they are better than everyone else are usually the people you see running around the locker room in gym class, snapping towels on other guys asses. They are a pain in the ass (no pun intended).

Homophobics and anti-gay people. Do I really have to explain this? Anyone who uses faggot as an insult meaning someone prefers men, is a fucking moron and should have his phallus ripped off with a rusty spoon. What kind of morons have a problem with someone's sexual preference? Asinine if you ask me.

Time to beat off. I'm done.

[blizzard_beast]

Concerning the first paragraph, neither do I know or give a fuck who Bill O'Reiley is, but I'm glad you got that off your chest.

Women? I assume you are talking about your mother, it's either that or some erotic fantasy of domination that you have blurted out in a moment of hopeless denial. If you have issues with your mother, talk them over with her, perhaps even give her a hug.

Every single person in this world thinks they are better than something or other, and some people go as far as to think they are better than everyone else. Give them a smack in the face the next time they pain your ass, otherwise, run.

As for homosexuals, I don't care whether they scream like wether's, as long as it doesn't disturb me or other like-minded people.

[guitar_demon]

you know what i fucking hate...LONG ASS POSTS
so fuck you all :)

[Cloaca]

That blubbering Vagina Bill O'Riley.

Way to rip off Maddox. ;)

[andrewc]

Things that can't stand:

That blubbering Vagina Bill O'Riley. That two faced sack of shit wouldn't know fair and balanced if it bit him in the ass. Speaking of which, I hate the entire Fox News Channel, minus Neal Cavuto, because he isn't an Extreme Right Wing cock ass like the rest of his co-workers. Especially Sean Hannity. What a douche.

i hate that fat, useless old sack of shit. his cutting off of other people, interrupting, pushing his own views, hypocritical....i did laugh at outfoxed:
B O'R: "i have only said shut up once in 6 years..." then a whole clip of him saying shut up at different times. and yes, the whole fucking fox news channel is more one sided and more right wing, than an afghanistani fighter jet.


Tampon Commercials. The next time I'm enjoying a nice family get together, and have to hear my 4 year old cousin ask my grandfather very loudly "WHATS UH TAMEPON?" I swear to you, I'll kill myself.

a while ago, me and my girlfriend were trying to have an intimate moment in her room when two straight fucking tampon ads came on on the tv. argh, what a fucking mood killer!!!! i don't care if it's in chicks shows that guys won't normally watch, like the O.C. or charmed or whatever, but it's been shown during even the simpsons and becker recently. NOBODY CARES ABOUT PERIODS. IT SCARES US.

now for some of my own hatings. aside from the usual mall goths:

4WD drivers that think they're above the law!! i saw an incident recently where at a 6-way intersection, a 4WD just ran a red-light. hadn't been red for long, but there was plenty of time for them to slow down. in a similar 5 way, my girlfriend was nearly run over by one. that was unforgettably scary because she had just kicked me in the balls by accident and walked off. both drivers were asian, simply for the record.

people who say "ATM machine" and "PIN number". get it the fuck right!!!! either just say PIN/ATM, or PI number/AT machine. anyone who has seen that episode of fat pizza will know what i'm on about.

gangster wogs that think they're niggers. don't get me wrong, i don't mind people coming over here for a new life or to escape a cruel government or whatever the reason, but when they turn into dole bludgers and gangsters, they should fucking be deported. it's sad that there is such a stereotype that all wogs are like that, but most of them actually are, rough-arses that go around in huge gangs attacking and robbing people (but only if there's less than two of them.) fucking cowards, every last one of them.

to put something to rest: "niggers" and "wogs" has traditionally been an unacceptable term, so here's why i use it: they use the terms themselves. you hear it in every rap song "i'm the number 1 pimpin' nigger" or on the street "bro i'm the sickest most fully hectic wog", therefore i will use it. notice i will almost never call them jungle babies, you don't hear them saying "i'm the sickest gangsta jungle baby" and such, hope that all clears everything up.

[Rapture]

i live with 3 women. its like one big tampon commercial.

[Cloaca]

4WD drivers that think they're above the law!! i saw an incident recently where at a 6-way intersection, a 4WD just ran a red-light. hadn't been red for long, but there was plenty of time for them to slow down. in a similar 5 way, my girlfriend was nearly run over by one. that was unforgettably scary because she had just kicked me in the balls by accident and walked off. both drivers were asian, simply for the record.

Aye, laddy.

But I say 'PIN Number', wanna fight about it? ;)

[andrewc]

jesus man!! :sickface:

[Chris Rezendes]

i hate that fat, useless old sack of shit. his cutting off of other people, interrupting, pushing his own views, hypocritical....i did laugh at outfoxed:
B O'R: "i have only said shut up once in 6 years..." then a whole clip of him saying shut up at different times. and yes, the whole fucking fox news channel is more one sided and more right wing, than an afghanistani fighter jet.

Bill O'Reilly really does suck. I was going to clip this part of the post, but, really, it does deserve emphasis. He is a stupid fucking loser.


a while ago, me and my girlfriend were trying to have an intimate moment in her room when two straight fucking tampon ads came on on the tv. argh, what a fucking mood killer!!!! i don't care if it's in chicks shows that guys won't normally watch, like the O.C. or charmed or whatever, but it's been shown during even the simpsons and becker recently. NOBODY CARES ABOUT PERIODS. IT SCARES US.

It doesn't scare all of us. I've never been bothered by that stuff. Herpes commercials usually make me uncomfortable, but not tampon commercials. I've bought tampons before, once for my mum and twice for a girlfriend. For the record, they were not Christmas presents. To me, it's not any more embarrasing than buying toilet paper.

people who say "ATM machine" and "PIN number". get it the fuck right!!!! either just say PIN/ATM, or PI number/AT machine. anyone who has seen that episode of fat pizza will know what i'm on about.

I can't argue with that. I find it terribly annoying. I find it similarly annoying when fellow Sox fans refer to a Korean born pitcher of ours are BK Kim. His name is Byung-Hyun Kim. Now, I can understand if you can't pronounce that, but either call him BK or BH Kim, dumbasses.

gangster wogs that think they're niggers. don't get me wrong, i don't mind people coming over here for a new life or to escape a cruel government or whatever the reason, but when they turn into dole bludgers and gangsters, they should fucking be deported. it's sad that there is such a stereotype that all wogs are like that, but most of them actually are, rough-arses that go around in huge gangs attacking and robbing people (but only if there's less than two of them.) fucking cowards, every last one of them.

to put something to rest: "niggers" and "wogs" has traditionally been an unacceptable term, so here's why i use it: they use the terms themselves. you hear it in every rap song "i'm the number 1 pimpin' nigger" or on the street "bro i'm the sickest most fully hectic wog", therefore i will use it. notice i will almost never call them jungle babies, you don't hear them saying "i'm the sickest gangsta jungle baby" and such, hope that all clears everything up.

I've always liked you, so I'm not going to make a big deal out of this, but I've noticed this for a while and it's been bothering me a bit. You have tendencies toward racial biases, and no matter what manner in which you try to rationalize or justify it, it's wrong. It really should matter to you what race a person is if they rob somebody else or attack people 3-1 or 5-2. It's always wrong, and if somebody happens to be of African, Asian, Hispanic, or Australian Aboriginal descent, it doesn't make it any better or worse and does not deserve to be pointed out specifically by ethnic background.

Also, if people are ignorant and refer to themselves or other people of their ethnic background as racial slurs, it doesn't justify other people being ignorant and doing the same. Ignorance doesn't know any colors (and definitely doesn't know any nationalities, rememeber like I said before, 98% idiocy rate everywhere, haha). There are also legitimate reasons for some people to try to use these words, if you would like a detailed and rational explanation for this, feel free to PM me and I'll elaborate.

I'd also have no problem dispelling the mythical existence of a wigger, which can be simplified into once sentence- there is no such thing as a white person trying to be a black person (unless they spend too much time in a tanning booth, and then, really they're either trying to be orange or Hulk Hogan) because there is no way a black person is supposed to act. It's easy to conform to stereotypes that would allow a person to view a white person as trying to act like a black person based on one's limited view of black people, but no one entire broad category of people like that act alike, nor should they.

Now, like I said, I'm not trying to be rude or belittle you, I'm simply trying to explain these things to you in a way you can understand. Like I said before, I like you personally, so I'd rather just explain this to you than be a dick about it.

[Cloaca]

Normally I'd agree with you about the last part Chris, but seriously: There are so many people of Meditterranean descent in this city that are in gangs who start shit for no reason, its ridiculous. I can't state this enough, there are shitloads. On a saturday night, they come out of the fucking woodwork. It really doesn't seem to be the other races that do it as much.

However, about the dole bludging, everyone does that. It's the Aussie way :p

[andrewc]

I've always liked you, so I'm not going to make a big deal out of this, but I've noticed this for a while and it's been bothering me a bit. You have tendencies toward racial biases, and no matter what manner in which you try to rationalize or justify it, it's wrong. It really should matter to you what race a person is if they rob somebody else or attack people 3-1 or 5-2. It's always wrong, and if somebody happens to be of African, Asian, Hispanic, or Australian Aboriginal descent, it doesn't make it any better or worse and does not deserve to be pointed out specifically by ethnic background.

Also, if people are ignorant and refer to themselves or other people of their ethnic background as racial slurs, it doesn't justify other people being ignorant and doing the same. Ignorance doesn't know any colors (and definitely doesn't know any nationalities, rememeber like I said before, 98% idiocy rate everywhere, haha). There are also legitimate reasons for some people to try to use these words, if you would like a detailed and rational explanation for this, feel free to PM me and I'll elaborate.

I'd also have no problem dispelling the mythical existence of a wigger, which can be simplified into once sentence- there is no such thing as a white person trying to be a black person (unless they spend too much time in a tanning booth, and then, really they're either trying to be orange or Hulk Hogan) because there is no way a black person is supposed to act. It's easy to conform to stereotypes that would allow a person to view a white person as trying to act like a black person based on one's limited view of black people, but no one entire broad category of people like that act alike, nor should they.

Now, like I said, I'm not trying to be rude or belittle you, I'm simply trying to explain these things to you in a way you can understand. Like I said before, I like you personally, so I'd rather just explain this to you than be a dick about it.

first off, thanks for not being an arse about it.

the reason i am biased of hatred towards ethnic criminals, is not on that criminal basis, or even on a stereotypical basis as i perhaps have made it out to be. it is because of two-way racism.

it is so horrendously easy to be a finger-pointing, calling everything hatred or racism towards "those poor boat people" or those "poor sons of slaves" and stuff, and then there are those people who watch the evening news that shout "go back to the fucking jungle you greasy ethnic bastards", which is plain moronic as it is basing the hatred on skin colour/appearance, basing hatred on appearance is something i definitely do not do, but something that has to be realised is that a lot of these people actually hate us more than we hate them.

you mentioned the aboriginal community in your above post so i will start off with them. a lot of aboriginal people have married into white families and lost their skin colour and what-have-you, these are the main offenders. true aboriginals who have always remained within black families are normally very hard-working people. i don't know how much of australian history you know, so i'll tell you. if you know about the "stolen generation" of the mid-20th century you can skip this next part. the stolen generation was when the white influence on australia was growing hugely, and aboriginal communities were dying out. children in tribal aboriginal camps would have been growing up with no clue as to how they could survive in the white man's world, so they took all the children and raised them in orphanages to learn the ways of the white man, learn english, white man's laws and such. they never got to see their families again so they were released from the orphanages at age 18, and were full of hatred and anger towards white people for taking their families away, which i suppose is understandable. anyway, this anger and hatred has passed through the generations and so the children of these people have been taught to hate white people and to single them out. sorry for the big history lesson but that is my example of two-way racism.

as for arabic "two way hatred," this comes obviously from australia's support for the US bombing of iraq, and helping of muslim-hating israel. again, easy to understand why they don't like white people, but that doesn't make it acceptable. also admittedly, this one is slightly out of fear. maybe that's bad, but something i worry about is the taking over. it is common to see arabic families having 5 to 7 children compared with 1 to 3 children for white families. of course this is fine in theory, but something to watch out for is that they may one day take over australia. and before you say "oh that's ridiculous," look at the views of muslim extremists today. extremists will stop at NOTHING in their hurry to get everybody to become islamic.

it has happened before. look at egypt, thousands of years ago, egyptians worshipped the pharaohs, communicated in hieroglyphs and made history with pyramids. and yet, by the 1400's, the arabic people had invaded them to the point where most egyptians were now islamic and spoke arabic. i do not want this to happen to australia. and yes, technically with so many lebanese immigrants, it is possible.

i suppose i single people out because it's physically easier to stereotype them as a group. i've said i don't like wogs and yet one of my closest friends is from greece, we go to rugby games sometimes, get on at school, play jokes on each other, all that stuff, because he doesn't act like them, he hangs with those sorts of people, yes, but he doesn't steal cars and take drugs and shit, he's even stopped me from taking drugs myself.

as for oriental asians, there are so many good asians that run stores, drive public transport and do these things, that it is much easier to overlook the minority that get into the gang shit, and even they keep it between rival asian groups and don't go out attacking white people and that. yes i also have two friends from vietnam. as a matter of fact, i don't even notice them in some areas of my suburb, i dont think "there is an asian person," but when you go to an area that's 3 towns over, my fear of our country losing it's identity kicks in again.

however you're right about the acting, look at homosexual people. there is no way ANYONE is supposed to act. homosexuality is written into a person's genes, what is NOT written into their genes is the way to act (flapping hands, dressing in pink, calling people honey and so on).

well anyway i'm gonna head off now, since you said there's no hope of justifying my views i've pretty much wasted my time, but it's good to get that of my chest anyway. cheers :beer:

[andrewc]

Normally I'd agree with you about the last part Chris, but seriously: There are so many people of Meditterranean descent in this city that are in gangs who start shit for no reason, its ridiculous. I can't state this enough, there are shitloads. On a saturday night, they come out of the fucking woodwork. It really doesn't seem to be the other races that do it as much.

However, about the dole bludging, everyone does that. It's the Aussie way :p

it depends on what area you go to, if you go to the west side somewhere like st. albans or broadmeadows, you might as well jump under a freight train, same outcome except you would keep your wallet. seriously chris, in an area like broadmeadows, if you go walking or on public transport at night, you need two baseball bats, one for each hand.

but if you head to the south and east sides, you'll be jumped by the asians but like i said in my previous post, they're far less likely to jump you.

[andrewc]

Like I said before, I like you personally, so I'd rather just explain this to you than be a dick about it.

wait a sec....what is it that you like about me? :)

[MoonRaven]

i hate teletubbies, the little fuckers, and that baby sun is just fuckin freaky, what kind of acid trip were the creators on when they thought that shit up, and who the hell told them that it would be a good idea, GOD DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!

[Cloaca]

It was a good idea, they're probably loaded now. Best batch of acid they ever had I bet.

[PST 88]

So ... that was interesting. Everybody dislikes something. Thanks for the update. When you get your own site, let us know.

Oh, and Transient's an idiot. I read that entire post and now I'm ashamed that I know how to read. Some people's hatred is amusing. Yours is tedious. A few points:

Rap is, ostensibly, poetry. Poetry has always worked around one sound. Being able to do it well is part of having a good style and control of language. There are entire novels constructed around one sound. It's the level of skill involved that matters. Don't mistake symptoms with their roots.
Correct spelling is a prerequisite for condescension and foreign languages 'like French or Spanish' include your stupid, juvenile fascination with Norsk.
Burzum incorporates religion into music. Like with the above point, realize what the fuck you're saying before you say it.
'The people that walk down the hallways and rap to themselves.' These are sometimes the people who actually do it right. Not in Saratoga Springs, maybe, but it happens. You might as well criticize people who practice guitar in high school hallways. Everyone who's good at something sucked majorly at some point.
Most of your problems with Kill Bill (vol. 1, apparently) wouldn't exist if you had even the slightest sense of irony. Many good films have layers and folds. Tarantino doesn't even have difficult ones.
You have emotions. I can't check into an RTT without seeing you complain about being unable to land a decent date. Emotions will come up when you find someone you can open yourself to. When you're a sexually frustrated lil' Upstate New Yorker, it's easy to believe you don't have them. However, once you've lived beyond adoloscentia, if that ever happens, you might realize that claiming people don't have genuine emotions is like claiming you don't have testicles. Except it's a lie.

Okay, I'll stop. You're a teenager. I understand. All your fun little 'points' and 'rants' are annoyed teenager rants. Virtually everybody here has experienced the same moods and emotions and, and here's the important part, shut the fuck up about them. That's right: not everyone's contribution is equal, and not everyone's contribution matters. Most people will go through this life annoyed and frustrated. Very few will be fulfilled and happy, like we should be once we pick the right cereal or detergent. However, just as we shouldn't exult in our cereal celection, thereby crowding the cereal isle with out ejaculations of joyous triumph, we shouldn't exult in the mere ability to notice that 99%, if not much, much more, of life is crammed to the brim with unfathomable and barely tolerable bullshit, thereby crowding the internet with inane 'observations.' Some people manage to verbally depict their annoyances in the brilliant tones of writers of competence, intelligence, wit, and maybe, if we're lucky, a touch of inspiration or genius. If you can't, try to spend some time honing your skill before subjecting us to the half-sterile spurtings of your mind's contempt. And before you attempt to compare my chastisement here with yours of hallway rappers, remember that people who try to learn to rap, at least, haven't arrogated some position of superiority because they consider themselves 'observer(s).'

andrewc: you're very likable. I don't even like you and I like you. It's best not to question it.

[Cloaca]

Damn that was good.

[brainsforbreakfast]

Seems FBS isn't the only one ranting here..
SOMEBODY CHANGE THE THREAD TITLE!!

[blizzard_beast]

Meh, you bunch of pussies. Get a life. :p

[Transient]

So ... that was interesting. Everybody dislikes something. Thanks for the update. When you get your own site, let us know.

Oh, and Transient's an idiot. I read that entire post and now I'm ashamed that I know how to read. Some people's hatred is amusing. Yours is tedious. A few points:

Rap is, ostensibly, poetry. Poetry has always worked around one sound. Being able to do it well is part of having a good style and control of language. There are entire novels constructed around one sound. It's the level of skill involved that matters. Don't mistake symptoms with their roots.
Correct spelling is a prerequisite for condescension and foreign languages 'like French or Spanish' include your stupid, juvenile fascination with Norsk.
Burzum incorporates religion into music. Like with the above point, realize what the fuck you're saying before you say it.
'The people that walk down the hallways and rap to themselves.' These are sometimes the people who actually do it right. Not in Saratoga Springs, maybe, but it happens. You might as well criticize people who practice guitar in high school hallways. Everyone who's good at something sucked majorly at some point.
Most of your problems with Kill Bill (vol. 1, apparently) wouldn't exist if you had even the slightest sense of irony. Many good films have layers and folds. Tarantino doesn't even have difficult ones.
You have emotions. I can't check into an RTT without seeing you complain about being unable to land a decent date. Emotions will come up when you find someone you can open yourself to. When you're a sexually frustrated lil' Upstate New Yorker, it's easy to believe you don't have them. However, once you've lived beyond adoloscentia, if that ever happens, you might realize that claiming people don't have genuine emotions is like claiming you don't have testicles. Except it's a lie.

Okay, I'll stop. You're a teenager. I understand. All your fun little 'points' and 'rants' are annoyed teenager rants. Virtually everybody here has experienced the same moods and emotions and, and here's the important part, shut the fuck up about them. That's right: not everyone's contribution is equal, and not everyone's contribution matters. Most people will go through this life annoyed and frustrated. Very few will be fulfilled and happy, like we should be once we pick the right cereal or detergent. However, just as we shouldn't exult in our cereal celection, thereby crowding the cereal isle with out ejaculations of joyous triumph, we shouldn't exult in the mere ability to notice that 99%, if not much, much more, of life is crammed to the brim with unfathomable and barely tolerable bullshit, thereby crowding the internet with inane 'observations.' Some people manage to verbally depict their annoyances in the brilliant tones of writers of competence, intelligence, wit, and maybe, if we're lucky, a touch of inspiration or genius. If you can't, try to spend some time honing your skill before subjecting us to the half-sterile spurtings of your mind's contempt. And before you attempt to compare my chastisement here with yours of hallway rappers, remember that people who try to learn to rap, at least, haven't arrogated some position of superiority because they consider themselves 'observer(s).'

andrewc: you're very likable. I don't even like you and I like you. It's best not to question it.

haha, you go so out of your way to start trouble with me because i like burzum, and he hates jews. you ALWAYS mention that i like burzum.
im not even going to respond to everything you said, because there is no point and i stand by my observations anyways. its just not worth it

[blizzard_beast]

The hypocrisy in this place...

[Transient]

want to elaborate on that a little more?

[blizzard_beast]

It's just PST 88's criticism of you ranting

[Transient]

yeah, but thats just a one time thing. in his defense i update mine probably once every two months, his was just a one time deal

but hes still stupid

[blizzard_beast]

Eh? Update what? You have a website where you express your teen angst?

[Transient]

just a sub profile

what i posted is four seperate pages of it. some of that stuff is at least 2 years old, hence the change in writing style and topic

[blizzard_beast]

Ah ok, where is the sub profile?

[Transient]

under my AIM name


everyone here in the us uses AIM. theres no reason for me to get MSN other than to talk to you europeans,and i doubt my computer could handle many more programs

[brainsforbreakfast]

i doubt my computer could handle many more programs

YOUR MOM!! :eek:

[andrewc]

YOUR MOM!! :eek:

too many programs bro! ;)

[PST 88]

I always mention Burzum in general, but it has nothing to do with Jews. I don't care about Jews. You're the one who always brings up Jews whenever I post. Jews play a very small part in my thinking. I just don't like you. You make statements that blatantly contradict what little I can know about you from the brief contact we've had on an internet board. Think about that for a while. If you stand by your observations, explain why the things you like are excepted. Explain why the objections I brought up about them were responded to by 'he's cranky because Burzum' - a band which, incidentally, incorporates Asatru, a religion, into its music, you unreflective little cunt - 'doesn't like Jews.' That's not 'standing by your observations.' That's hiding from any criticism.

Your cute little 'observations' would reveal your youth and correspondingly childlike Welltanschauung - oh my god! He knows German! - even if I wasn't aware of it. They're juvenile and trite. That's what I object to. I understand that the internet has given you a wonderful forum in which to post your juvenile, trite observations, I just don't think that the fact that it exists means it should be exploited. But I'm sure that you're trite and uninteresting because I don't like anti-semites. That's a perfectly rational explanation.

[far_beyond_sane]

Welltanschauung

Damn, nigga. All for the want of some lebensraum, you drop your rancid-buttocked weltschmerz on this poor benighted child.

I'd say more, but that's all the Nerd German I remember. Except for gestalt. And ubermensch. Oh, and leitmotif.

(Is there any more? Be nice, I'm not a linguist.)

[brainsforbreakfast]

Bitte?

[Transient]

Explain why the objections I brought up about them were responded to by 'he's cranky because Burzum' - a band which, incidentally, incorporates Asatru, a religion, into its music, you unreflective little cunt - 'doesn't like Jews.' That's not 'standing by your observations.' That's hiding from any criticism.

the only religion i dont want to hear sung about in my music is christianity. in fact, if you could drum up a jew band id be happy to hear it.

i dont want to defend all 40,000+ characaters there, but if you want to point some out, i would be happy to stand by what ive said, or even better, if i said something really stupid (i guarantee i have somewhere in there) id like to acknowledge that as well

Welltanschauung

i dont know any german, so i dont know what youre saying there. i do however, know what lebensraum and ubermensch means. oh well, you probably just called me a "cunt" or something else childish


you said trite and uninteresting three times in one post. i can see how you would see complaining about good charlotte fans trite, but it feels good to type that kind of thing out and show everyone. whereas, a good deal of that stuff is original and im pretty happy with it. the newer stuff (gumball choices,cuckoo clocks) has never been said before. thats the kind of thing ill be writing about from now on. everyone starts somewhere, and when i read back on some of that i just laugh, but a good deal of it does still really, really annoy me.

it feels good to write about how the morons running around at your school, and im sure it feels good to you to type posts that would make the guy who writes for ANUS cry with joy

and i dont know how you could defend "thoia thoia thoia thoing thoing thoing" as poetry, which is the song i was referring to

movies are personal preference, and i get a hard time about my not liking kill bill from everyone.i thought it sucked, plain and simple

and the people who rap in the hallways are not true poets or artists or anything of the sort, theyre rapping about things they dont have, often getting in fights with innocent people, picking on janitors, etc. i didnt say the people the rap in washington dc all suck, im talking about small town white kids trying to intimidate everyone

the reason this post is kind of meandering is because i hadnt intended to defend that entire post, but i got carried away

look forward to your reply

one more thing, as for the "childish" learning of norsk, i can see why youd think that. however, im not learning it to be kvlt or tr00. im learning it because i have a general appreciation for language and am interested in it. you wouldnt have said that to guitar demon, who is also learning it
i genuinely like language, but you didnt know that

[Bia]

The only German I know is from Sgt. Shultz from TBS reruns of Hogans Heros.
"I know nusssing"

Derrrr me. :p

[Rapture]

in fact, if you could drum up a jew band id be happy to hear it.

Orphaned Land. they're quite good.

[Transient]

hahaha alright

[PST 88]

Weltanschauung means 'world outlook.' It's a philosophical term. It's about as childish as Methuselah. It's not very hard to look up. It's in English-speaking dictionaries, which are available online. Put some effort into these things. You'll become a better person for it.

If you mean 'christianity,' specify it. It's easy enough to do and won't leave you looking like you can't bother to review what you say to make sure it isn't downing your own tastes. This is basically the jist of the majority of my criticisms. The topics you choose aren't the problem, it's your method of argument. I don't find this a surprise, since you've backed out of virtually every argument I've ever seen you in here and wouldn't really be practiced at rhetoric, which is important. Pointing out things that suck in society is useless; we all know what sucks. It's how they're pointed out. You point out the obvious in the laziest manner possible. Even if you come up with something we've all missed, it's still done lazily. That's why 'uninteresting' had to toddle along with 'trite' every time I brought it out, and could without being redundant.

Actually, I just re-read your original post, and your defense of what you said isn't even true. You said 'either for or against.' So unless you want to retract that and re-write it so that you don't exclude music you like, I don't see any change made by your defense just now.

A Super-Jew band would be as annoying as any Christian band. Trust me. More annoying than most, probably.

Again, if you meant that song, specify it. I wouldn't defend that particular example of it, but I will defend people structuring a lyric around one syllable or sound. Since you attacked the latter without qualification, I told you why that's a dumbass statement to make. It still is.

Again, if your problem is with their other behavior more than their rapping, why only mention the rap? Among your other criticism was 'you aren't a professional.' Like I said, a lot of people aren't without it being a problem. Criticize their behavior if you don't want to look like the angry neighbor who calls the cops on the party.

I don't care that you don't like Kill Bill. I just said that your criticisms of it showed an inability to perceive irony or participate in a discerning audience. Nothing else you've written shows that you're capable of more than the shallowest of engagements in an art form. Like I said, you're more than welcome to dislike it. You should just try to become a better filmgoer to legitimize your dislike. Also reader and listener.

Spinoza Ray Prozak would only cry with joy if I had asked you to perform a, as he puts it, 'hollow-point lobotomy' upon yourself. He really seems to like hollow-point bullets. But even then, the fact that I asked a Northern European to kill himself would probably shock and dismay him. I'm sure he'd be much happier to see the posts in which you talk about identifying nations by race and keeping your bloodline pure. Or have you not actually read his site? You've got more in common with him than I do. I don't even come close to his levels of self-obfuscation through vocabulary, though. I can, but I've stopped.

You're shockingly uncritical of yourself and your views. That's why I don't like you and probably never will. It's no big deal how I feel, I know, but being incapable of anything but the shallowest observations and refusing to apply any critical intelligence you may have - assuming you do have it and haven't let it waste away for want of exercise - is not a good way to go through life. It's a good idea to polish this shit before posting it, and, once it's posted, to be prepared to defend it rather than to back out saying 'well, we disagree. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree' like a hippy who just spit an organically grown watermelon's seed on a Hell's Angel's boot. Now, I figure rants should be in the RTT with the rest of the random crap I couldn't be bothered to read if you paid me and not here, but if you're going to throw them in a thread I'm going to read, take some time with the shit. Yours were bad, and large, enough for me to ignore Dissection in favor of only a few points from you. If I went through them point by point, I'd go blind and probably crash the server.

Final note: While it's true that I have more respect for guitar demon than for you, I don't have any more respect for his decision to learn Norsk or get in touch with his ancestral roots. However, I've yet to see him down anybody else for learning a language, and, taking that into consideration, I guess you could say I do have more respect for it.

[Bia]

A Super-Jew band would be as annoying as any Christian band. Trust me. More annoying than most, probably.


OMG! That's fucking funny.
:rofl:

[Transient]

Weltanschauung means 'world outlook.' It's a philosophical term. It's about as childish as Methuselah. It's not very hard to look up. It's in English-speaking dictionaries, which are available online. Put some effort into these things. You'll become a better person for it.

i dont care. and looking up the german word for world outlook will not make me a better person

If you mean 'christianity,' specify it. It's easy enough to do and won't leave you looking like you can't bother to review what you say to make sure it isn't downing your own tastes. This is basically the jist of the majority of my criticisms. The topics you choose aren't the problem, it's your method of argument. I don't find this a surprise, since you've backed out of virtually every argument I've ever seen you in here and wouldn't really be practiced at rhetoric, which is important. Pointing out things that suck in society is useless; we all know what sucks. It's how they're pointed out. You point out the obvious in the laziest manner possible. Even if you come up with something we've all missed, it's still done lazily. That's why 'uninteresting' had to toddle along with 'trite' every time I brought it out, and could without being redundant.
what arguments have i backed out of
its not useless to point out what sucks in society. you can change things, relax yourself, amuse others, and simply have fun. that was a stupid point you just tried to make.
i dont know how you say i point these things out in the laziest manner. maybe in comparison to your long-winded verbal masturbation fests.
if it was so uninteresting, you could have simply not read it. but no, you insisted on reading the whole thing, then bitching to me about how my bitching about society sucked. think about that for a while. if you say to me all my complaining about society wont change it, then why are you complaining to me. im not the only person who does this kind of thing, and you wont stop me or anybody else.

Actually, I just re-read your original post, and your defense of what you said isn't even true. You said 'either for or against.' So unless you want to retract that and re-write it so that you don't exclude music you like, I don't see any change made by your defense just now.
i dont even know what youre talking about here, and frankly dont care as it doesnt seem particularly important

A Super-Jew band would be as annoying as any Christian band. Trust me. More annoying than most, probably.

i looked up some old jewish music, started with k. kabzam or some such thing, and boy, was it obnoxious.

Again, if you meant that song, specify it. I wouldn't defend that particular example of it, but I will defend people structuring a lyric around one syllable or sound. Since you attacked the latter without qualification, I told you why that's a dumbass statement to make. It still is.
that song isnt the only song that does the same kind of noise based garbage. i dont know why youre defending rap on a metal forum anyways, but ill leave that up to you. rap is simply and inferior kind of music in all forms and all respects. its that simple, dont even try to attack this , because this is personal belief. you can go bump your nwa tunes all you want, but its utter garbage

Again, if your problem is with their other behavior more than their rapping, why only mention the rap? Among your other criticism was 'you aren't a professional.' Like I said, a lot of people aren't without it being a problem. Criticize their behavior if you don't want to look like the angry neighbor who calls the cops on the party.

actually, on the inside im an 80 year old man. cant you tell?

I don't care that you don't like Kill Bill. I just said that your criticisms of it showed an inability to perceive irony or participate in a discerning audience. Nothing else you've written shows that you're capable of more than the shallowest of engagements in an art form. Like I said, you're more than welcome to dislike it. You should just try to become a better filmgoer to legitimize your dislike. Also reader and listener.
movies suck. kill bill sucked. you can try and defend his masterful camerawork or ironic dialogue, but i wont be having any of it. i dont like movies and i never have. only uptight snobs like yourself who like to escape their own lives enjoy movies and rave about how wonderful the acting was.

Spinoza Ray Prozak would only cry with joy if I had asked you to perform a, as he puts it, 'hollow-point lobotomy' upon yourself. He really seems to like hollow-point bullets. But even then, the fact that I asked a Northern European to kill himself would probably shock and dismay him. I'm sure he'd be much happier to see the posts in which you talk about identifying nations by race and keeping your bloodline pure. Or have you not actually read his site? You've got more in common with him than I do. I don't even come close to his levels of self-obfuscation through vocabulary, though. I can, but I've stopped.
yeah, ive read his postings. kind of ridiculous, and doesnt he have AIDS?
oh well
anyways, hes a pompous bastard much like yourself

You're shockingly uncritical of yourself and your views. That's why I don't like you and probably never will...babbling.....Yours were bad, and large, enough for me to ignore Dissection in favor of only a few points from you. If I went through them point by point, I'd go blind and probably crash the server.

entirely unfunny and boring to read, not to mention pretty hard to follow. try again, and im not trying to win your respect, unlike many of the pst88 whores around here

Final note: While it's true that I have more respect for guitar demon than for you, I don't have any more respect for his decision to learn Norsk or get in touch with his ancestral roots. However, I've yet to see him down anybody else for learning a language, and, taking that into consideration, I guess you could say I do have more respect for it.

what the hell are you even saying here?

[Dissection]

I've always liked you, so I'm not going to make a big deal out of this, but I've noticed this for a while and it's been bothering me a bit. You have tendencies toward racial biases, and no matter what manner in which you try to rationalize or justify it, it's wrong. It really should matter to you what race a person is if they rob somebody else or attack people 3-1 or 5-2. It's always wrong, and if somebody happens to be of African, Asian, Hispanic, or Australian Aboriginal descent, it doesn't make it any better or worse and does not deserve to be pointed out specifically by ethnic background.


See, if you can't joke about your race, then you don't have a sense of humor. There is a difference between joking with my black friend (who claims that he is white; swear to god) and calling him a nigger (which he calls himself, and me even), and the type of blantant moronic hick speech you see in the American south. If someone jokes around and calls me a cracker, I don't get offended. What am I supposed to say? "Fuck you, you can't call me that." Why? Because its what should be expected? You point out my race and I'm obligated to feel offended?

No, see, racial stereotypes are funny. When a black man says something deemed "racist" by the morons who consider themselves politically correct, I laugh, for the sole reason that anyone who is dumb enough to believe racial stereotypes deserves to hung and fucking bled.

I understand you point, Chris, and I respect it because of how intelligent you are. I don't want you to take any of this as an attack on what you said.

[Dissection]

Unless it's Dissection saying it. Then he should be suspended.

That is from the Jewish Deathmatch thread.

FUCK you, PST. You are the morons who took it to be a racist comment. If I was going to say something racist against asians, I would've made it a little funnier, not to mention more imaginative than "...tiny oriental penis..."

Unless you know all the facts, you wannabe elitist cunt, shut your pompous fucking mouth.

[PST 88]

'i dont care. and looking up the german word for world outlook will not make me a better person.'

Well, we've basically hit upon everything I don't like about you, and why we can't communicate. You're incurious. Curiosity would make you a better person. You make no effort to understand anything and then complain from the position of your lack of understanding as though it's some kind of virtue. You discount everything you've been too lazy to comprehend. 'Verbal masturbation' is not making an effort to write decently. Verbal masturbation is typing up 4,000 some-odd words of your banal observations and listless criticisms because you somehow believe they're worth being read. Do you even understand what you write yourself? Look at some of the shit coming off your fingertips.

Just a second to clarify on 'pompous bastard': I'm not that pompous, since I don't really look down on anyone, which is more or less a pre-requisite. On the other hand, your list of things that annoy you was certainly an 'exaggerated display of self-importance,' and did leave you looking down on the majority of kids your age. Which, like I said, is a fairly typical teenage phenomenon. I just don't want to have to read about it, you pompous twat.

You've managed to steer well clear of my point thus far, so I don't expect to see any comprehension forthcoming and would prefer to stop trying now, as I do have other and more important things to write for. But I'll keep arguing if you want.

[Transient]

what is your main point then, it seems to be swaying back and forth.

i simply dont care about the german word for world outlook is. youre an idiot for thinking that one statement i made simply sums up my entire personality. its like me saying you must pester every person you work with in the same way you step on everyones toes here. youre the same kind of liberal, hell bent for equality and love kind of person i hate.you do too possess some arrogance, or you wouldnt have started by commenting on my rants in the first place. clearly you think youre teaching me some kind of lesson

what the hell did you do when you were a teenager anyways? i cant see you doing anything other than harassing other messageboard posters with one hand on your dick and the other hand on the keyboard.

so to bring this back to where we started, what is your main point?

i look down on just about everyone in my age group. i agree with you there. and you would to if you had to go to school with these mindless idiots everyday as well.

[Dissection]

PST:

I'll leave this debate between the two of you, but your asinine comments against me prove his point.

[Soulinsane]

Damn, it just got all hateful up in this piece!

[FearFrost]

and i start to walk in hahahaha....

[PST 88]

My point is not swaying back and forth. You're reading shallowly and jumping on examples as though they're the underlying structure, which is why I feel we won't be able to communicate. I've just been asking for you to try to get over your obvious mental laziness and state of incuriosity. Or, failing that, to shut the fuck up.

I'm not taking one statement as running to your entire personality. Your personality is on display. You have 3,102 posts of personality for me to go on. I was just saying that this one statement serves as a good, if small, example of what I object to.

I'm not arrogant, or pompous. I am somewhat proud of myself, but not as much as you'd think. And I do have a lesson, but it's not that everyone is equal or should be loved. Read my first post in response to you and you'll see something of my thoughts on the matter. But appreciating inequalities is not the same as looking down on everyone and believing you're special. You're the kind of person - regardless of political beliefs -who believes he's somehow special and superior with nothing more to show for himself than a few years of high school and some half-assed ideas, who I hate. Glad to meet you.

When I was a teenager I was, with some differences, the same kind of immature little shit as you. Though I got out more, read a lot, would bother to look up a word when I didn't understand it, and tried to use my then-mediocre critical skills to reflect on my own arguments. I went to high school in Upstate New York too. What makes you think you're different or special? Just deal with it and be happy that it only lasts for a few more years.

Dissection: if anything I did got you suspended for a few days, I just want to say: that's hilarious. It is hilarious. Just think about it and you'll be laughing. Especially as I sure as hell didn't ask Jarrod to suspend you, and can't remember ever posting something even remotely resembling genuine offense at your comment on weijia's penis. I, personally, was surprised to see you got suspended for that, but it was at least funny. You want to blame somebody for your brief break from the green screen? Blame yourself for making such a repugnant online persona that the mods here will jump at an excuse to ban you. I'm just glad you finally got over brown-nosing me whenever I show up. And feel free to insert yourself into the argument. I don't mind.

Anyway, chums, I've got some other shit to do at the moment, but I'll try to check in on your responses tomorrow or in the next few days and keep this up for however long it needs to go. Cheers.

[Chris Rezendes]

See, if you can't joke about your race, then you don't have a sense of humor. There is a difference between joking with my black friend (who claims that he is white; swear to god) and calling him a nigger (which he calls himself, and me even), and the type of blantant moronic hick speech you see in the American south. If someone jokes around and calls me a cracker, I don't get offended. What am I supposed to say? "Fuck you, you can't call me that." Why? Because its what should be expected? You point out my race and I'm obligated to feel offended?

No, see, racial stereotypes are funny. When a black man says something deemed "racist" by the morons who consider themselves politically correct, I laugh, for the sole reason that anyone who is dumb enough to believe racial stereotypes deserves to hung and fucking bled.

I understand you point, Chris, and I respect it because of how intelligent you are. I don't want you to take any of this as an attack on what you said.

PART ONE: THE WORD 'RACE'

Now, not as an asshole, but just as a guy who knows what he's talking about, the word 'race' as used to describe people of certain colors is nothing more than erroneous logically and nothing less than extremely annoying for me. The reason for this is that race is indicative of an animal on the specific or, occasionally, at the very smallest level, subspecifically. Now, as I may or may not have explained here before, there is only one human species, Homo sapiens, with no surviving subspecies. Now, this seems strange. If that's what the word race means, and it's inapplicable, how exactly did the word race come into popular use in regard with human beings?

Well, several hundred years ago, the world was a much different place. Science, which had remained dormant for quite a while in favor of false all-powerful beings, started to make a rebound. Meanwhile, in North America, where the slave trade was a powerful entity, there were many Christians who moral values didn't allow for them to accept slavery and the extreme cruelty involved in all aspects of it. Now, these objectors would make a big fuss over all this (despite the fact that many of them viewed themselves as superior to other ethnicities). The people who wanted to continue this needed a way to justify this, but how?! In comes science, in it's infancy, and they realized they could capitalize on this similarly to the way people had abused the concepts of religion over the years.

Now, science that is abused for the political (or other) purposes is generally refered to as pseudo-scientists. Basically, what these people did was (without the employment of legitimate testing) conclude that Africans were of a completely different species, a race perfectly intermediate between apes and white men. No less an authority than Thomas Jefferson claimed that scientific observation had proven the theory that Africans and their American descendents were "inferior to whites in the endowments of both body and mind". This despite the fact that many blacks (even slaves!) were actually scientists during this period of scientific rebirth in which we learned so much as a people. Unfortunately, the only specific name of a prominent black scientist that comes to mind is that of one Benjamin Banneker, who actually sent Jefferson a copy of an almanac published (and financed by the US government, I believe) just to prove him wrong.

In a nutshell, the word race has been misused over the years simply as a way of contending that people of African descent are physically and intellectually inferior to white people. Over the years, having grown in popular use, it was used in reference to pretty much any group of people who arbitrarily had similarly colored skin or came from the same general region. For example, notice how Native Americans, Africans, and Asians are frequently considered races, despite the fact that there are hundreds of seperate ethnicities within those relatively irrelevant groups. On the other hand, in Europe, it has been known for millenia that there are countless ethnic groups.

So, I'm hoping you'll forgive me if I nitpick too much about a word whose popularity only grew out of a desperate attemp to prove that I and my mother are inferior both intellectually and physically to my father or you. Keep in mind these problems were still prevalent not 50 years ago, and still continue in a less overt form to this day.

PART TWO: A SENSE OF HUMOR

Joking about ethnic background differs in the form under which it takes place. Personally, I think when people joke to frequently about ethnic background, that means ethnic background is important to them and something they are proud of. Nobody should be proud of their ethnic background. This opinion of mine is extremely unpopular, especially among people of recently oppressed ethnic backgrounds.

These people believe that being proud of their ethnic background helps to erase any damage done by the ethnic group oppressing them, or to put it bluntly, white people, since it would help to be more specific. Not only does it not erase the damage done, it continues to drive a wedge between people of different ethnic backgrounds, including people of similarly oppressed ethnic backgrounds (lets say blacks and Jews as a random, specific example). Why it this? It's because ethnic pride commonly and quickly leads to delusions of ethnic superiority, which has plagued mankind for millenia before American slavery ever happened. I'll elaborate on this later.

So, what reasons are there to be proud of your ethnic background? None whatsoever. Everybody has an ethnic background. Being proud of your ethnic background is the exact same thing as being proud that you were born. Don't be proud that you were born. Be proud of your life's acheivements and accomplished goals.

Now, I'll admit freely that I make ethnically related jokes. For example, my cousin Sean, who (along with his brother), like me (and my brothers) is half white. However, he is kind of dark and you would never be able to tell he is half white. Now, he is also a HUGE hockey fan, for reasons I'll never know. Sometimes I joke around with him and tell him that if he ever tried to attend a Bruins game he'd get thrown out for being too many shades higher than tan. We also make stupid, throw-away jokes where we pretend like we've never seen a black person before and tease each other for being black, you know, like if we're eating we might say something like "are you sure you don't want fried chicken? I thought that's what you people ate". It's even better if you pick out something that you know the person doesn't like, for example, I hate fried chicken, and my cousin Tory hates watermelon, so we might bring up something specifically as a two-headed joke.

We are all black, and we understand these are just stupid ethnic stereotypes, so we have fun with them. My youngest brother and I are quite tanned and thusly resemble hispanics, so my cousins often refer to me as that "Puerto Rican kid" and my brother as "the Guatemalan". This is just stupid joking and nothing serious. Similar jokes don't bother me, so long as it's obvious it's really just a stupid, throw-away joke. The problem lies in the fact that many people buy into these ethnic stereotypes as being legitimate.

PART THREE: RACE vs. ETHNICITY

Now, earlier on, I told you I'd elaborate on false delusions of ethnic superiority and it's existence for millenia before the American slavery boom. Well, for thousands of years, people felt arbitrarily superior to other peoples based on ethnic differences. These differences were never based on color, however. Superiority based on color only came with the advent of North American slavery. There were rivalries between Native American ethnicities, African ethnicities, western, central, and eastern Asian ethnicities, and, as I'm sure you're quite aware, between European ethnicities as well. For example, there were rivalries between local Austrian and Italian ethnicities where they bordered. See also, Spanish vs. French, or English vs. every other European (or foreign) ethnicities.

Similarly, slavery had existed for thousands and thousands of years before American slavery came into existence. The differences were huge, however. For example, slaves of times past were generally people of conquered lands, prisoners of war, criminals, and those who owed debts. These people could, in almost every example, earn their freedom. Certainly, it was not an enviable position to be in, but they also had legal rights never afforded to the slaves of America. They were never considered to be property (or animals), and any children born of a slave was usually considered free at a certain age. You certainly could not rape or murder these slaves. The slaves of the Americas were very different. They were slaves for life, as were their children in most cases. They had no rights as human being, for they were considered animals, except, unlike animals, they were held 100% accountable for any perceived transgressions.

Now, maybe you are curious how American slavery came to be responsible for a new type of 'racism' based on color rather than ethnicity. Well, I might have trouble trying to articulate this, but, basically, when the Europeans imported slaves from Africa, many of the European settlers and colonists had never seen them. Thusly, their only view of blacks were as slaves. Because of this, all blacks were seen to them as inferior. These views later became justified by such pseudo-scientists as Thomas Jefferson, in their explanations that those of African descent were inherently inferior to whites in all quantifiable manners.

PART FOUR- CONCLUSION

Unlike your post, which you explained was not an attack on my post, the first paragraphy of my post is intended to attack your misuse (or, really, all misuse) of the word 'race'. However, this isn't meant to attack you as a person or to make you look or feel stupid, so don't feel slighted in any way by it. If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask, as I have no problem explaining to you anything that I myself understand.

This is Chris Rezendes saying 'good night', good night.

[MoonRaven]

YEAH WELL, YOUR MOM HAS A GIANT COOCHER, ITS LIKE POKING A FRENCH FRY IN THE GRAND CANYON, SO SUCK IT EASY BEEATCH!!!!!!!!11!







thats to all of you, BTW, Chris, tranny, dissection, and whoever else has posted in this thread, including myself and FBS...



















but mostly dissection

[powersofterror]

I know some really cool dudes that are shall we say "different" than my body features, and I must say I have never used a ethnic slang other than adding a "ian" or "an" on the end of their country. Hence, Brazilian, American, Asian, European, so on and so forth. I see no reason why someone would make up a word to call a person except for the cool generic ones like asshole and shithead. Although I don't like many things and some people, I can't understand it. hehehe PST, I think I am a very pompous person, but not really arrogant...:rolleyes:

oh, and I hate the way pizza sauce drips off onto my shirt while I'm eating it.

[Transient]

My point is not swaying back and forth. You're reading shallowly and jumping on examples as though they're the underlying structure, which is why I feel we won't be able to communicate. I've just been asking for you to try to get over your obvious mental laziness and state of incuriosity. Or, failing that, to shut the fuck up.

I'm not taking one statement as running to your entire personality. Your personality is on display. You have 3,102 posts of personality for me to go on. I was just saying that this one statement serves as a good, if small, example of what I object to.

I'm not arrogant, or pompous. I am somewhat proud of myself, but not as much as you'd think. And I do have a lesson, but it's not that everyone is equal or should be loved. Read my first post in response to you and you'll see something of my thoughts on the matter. But appreciating inequalities is not the same as looking down on everyone and believing you're special. You're the kind of person - regardless of political beliefs -who believes he's somehow special and superior with nothing more to show for himself than a few years of high school and some half-assed ideas, who I hate. Glad to meet you.

When I was a teenager I was, with some differences, the same kind of immature little shit as you. Though I got out more, read a lot, would bother to look up a word when I didn't understand it, and tried to use my then-mediocre critical skills to reflect on my own arguments. I went to high school in Upstate New York too. What makes you think you're different or special? Just deal with it and be happy that it only lasts for a few more years.

Dissection: if anything I did got you suspended for a few days, I just want to say: that's hilarious. It is hilarious. Just think about it and you'll be laughing. Especially as I sure as hell didn't ask Jarrod to suspend you, and can't remember ever posting something even remotely resembling genuine offense at your comment on weijia's penis. I, personally, was surprised to see you got suspended for that, but it was at least funny. You want to blame somebody for your brief break from the green screen? Blame yourself for making such a repugnant online persona that the mods here will jump at an excuse to ban you. I'm just glad you finally got over brown-nosing me whenever I show up. And feel free to insert yourself into the argument. I don't mind.

Anyway, chums, I've got some other shit to do at the moment, but I'll try to check in on your responses tomorrow or in the next few days and keep this up for however long it needs to go. Cheers.

lets not drag this shit out anyfurther ,its just lame and we arent getting anywhere. this isnt a "you win" , this is a simple "i dont care"

by the way, where in upstate ny

[PST 88]

I would have assumed it was an 'I don't care' even if you hadn't specified. But thanks.

I lived in the city with the brilliant plan for the fast ferry to Toronto. Home of Kodak, the Rhinos, and one of three minor airports within a two hour's drive of each other. Now I live in Chicago. It's colder, but has less snow and a bigger, more useful airport. It's a step up.

[Chris Rezendes]

lol i'm drunk and being a prick. but an honest prick


i only saw race.
so i'm gonna remark on race

My best friend is native. (thats' equal to "black" {if i use any other it may offend someone} in most of canada)
I'm white, long hair, anti christian (or was for a long time)
My first cousin is an african american

I have friends who are gay
i've wanted to kill people
etc.
etc.
I've met, been, seen ...different

From what i've gathered. Anyone who treats it different is childish
be it the white, anglo-american prick. the chief, spike lee, or fucking hitler

You are you. I've got the intelligence to gather that I is me (though i lack the grammer :) )

I treat a person like that
But you've got your black man sayin that they deserver reparations (Yeah you do, but i deserve tax cuts ...i know that's a lame excuse. but thats' life) every ones got something to bitch about now a days
bitches about womens lib. I agree 100@ with womens rights. I respect women equally as humans. No MORE. so don't expect fucking dinner. cuz you picked it bitch. it's equal. lol
black people. I'm sorry. MY ancestors (well mine didn't. mine never saw a black person. (i'm scottish) ) enslaved you. Kill america, kill em all.
But i can't accept Your extreme ideas. If you want to go back to the motherland, like so many of you state. Start a fuckign charity. Many kkk will donate.
Stop hating me for my skin color. I'm me.

I don't even fuckin know you.

and every one else. fuck off with the bullshiit
stop your whining
and bitching
you're not gonna get it
so start taking it
NOW
You are your own government
you choose your reality
You read your own books and deduce that you lie above us all and degrade me or you for liking a different tune, book or ideals?
no/yes.
we all live
read
drink
and
drink
and
drink
but i'll not hid behind my booze
we all live
and all lie
stop the cynicism
the arrogance
that's why metal has become a scar upon music
arrogance
hate
for a genre based on such beauty
(rebellion, truth,)
it's delved into such shit.


peace
rant ended.
You offerred. sane.

Here's a little number test, all these problems have the same answer. Let's see who can find the secret number, gang!

4 - 4 = ?
-10 + 10 =?
? people live on Antarctica.
? people enjoy listening to Bjork.
Richard Simmons has nailed ? women.
George W. Bush has an IQ of ?
Canada has ? balls.
? percent of the post I quoted makes sense.

What's the secret answer? Why, 0 (zero), of course! Everybody who ever comes here to post shitfaced should be forced to read Trendy's post 10 times after they sober up.

[powersofterror]

Dude.....that's sarcasm at its best..:beer:

[andrewc]

definitely :beer: i always, always, always, enjoy reading chris's posts. :cool:

[Cloaca]

Now, as I may or may not have explained here before, there is only one human species, Homo sapiens, with no surviving subspecies.

I might be wrong, but isn't it Homo sapiens sapiens?

[andrewc]

i don't know, but homo erectus is not only a magnificent theory of evolution in latin, but a complete blunder of evolution in english that's all i know.

[Cloaca]

i don't know, but homo erectus is not only a magnificent theory of evolution in latin, but a complete blunder of evolution in english that's all i know.

Oh, I thought is was a poofter with a hard-on. :rolleyes:

[andrewc]

that was the point sir :rolleyes:

[Chris Rezendes]

I might be wrong, but isn't it Homo sapiens sapiens?

All known living things are broken down into categories. There are many categories, but the main categories are, in order from the most inclusive to the most specific-

Domain
Kingdom
Phylum
Class
Order
Family
Genus
Species

Now, there are other recognized categories that are used to show closer relationships. For examply, within Class there are Subclass and Superorder. Within Order there is Suborder and Superfamily. Within Family there is subfamily. Within Genus there are occasionally seperate clades of the species most closely related to each other, this is only used for large genera that harbor many species, some of which are far more closely related to a couple species of the genus than they are to any other species.

Then, of course, there are subspecies. Species is the most specific way of identifying any form of life, and subspecies are only used to indicate animals of the same species that are distinctly different to the point where they are clearly going to branch off into seperate species somewhere down the line.

The important thing to remember is that there need to be at least two distinctly evolving lineages within a species in order for there to be valid subspecies. Modern humans are far to closely related to each other to be considered even seperate subspecies. This is supported by our almost identical anatomies, with very minor difference (for example, a slightly larger nasal apature in those of distinctly African descent). It is also supported by DNA, as genetically we are all very closely related.

Now, here's the good news- you are right. The reason for this is that there once existed two subspecies of H. sapiens- H. s. sapiens, and H. s. idaltu. However, H. s. idaltu is extinct now, and the only surviving subspecies is H. s. sapiens, which means that while my failure to acknowledge subspecific status within H. sapiens is technically wrong, for all intents and purposes, one could argue that, since H. sapiens does not presently have any distinct, seperately evolving lineages, suspecific recognition is entirely invalid.

That argument would probably be pretty weak, however, so I'll just admit I made a mistake.

Some also would like to argue that H. neanderthalis is conspecific with H. sapiens, and, thusly, a junior synonym thereof, making it H. s. neanderthalis. This theory is not supported by mtDNA testing, which clearly supports the validity of the two as seperate species.

For more details on the taxonomy regarding living and extinct humanoids, I refer you to the following-

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/spelling.html
http://www.ecotao.com/holism/hu_neand.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_sapiens_idaltu

[Dissection]

Dissection: if anything I did got you suspended for a few days, I just want to say: that's hilarious. It is hilarious. Just think about it and you'll be laughing. Especially as I sure as hell didn't ask Jarrod to suspend you, and can't remember ever posting something even remotely resembling genuine offense at your comment on weijia's penis. I, personally, was surprised to see you got suspended for that, but it was at least funny. You want to blame somebody for your brief break from the green screen? Blame yourself for making such a repugnant online persona that the mods here will jump at an excuse to ban you. I'm just glad you finally got over brown-nosing me whenever I show up. And feel free to insert yourself into the argument. I don't mind.


I used my other s/n for one, to clear up any bullshit surrounding my suspension. Brown nosing? Why the hell would I brown nose online? Seriously, thats fucking pointless.

Chris: I don't feel like getting into it with you, considering you are one of the few people on here who don't find it necessary to make a pitiful attempt to flame me because its "cool." I'll leave the race thing alone, because of the fact that I probably don't have as much knowledge on the subject you've brought up.

[brainsforbreakfast]

Racism and dividing humans in species is silly. Why?
There is more genetic difference between 2 chimpanzees in the same group, than the genetic difference between any human being and any other human being.

[PST 88]

I saw The True Dissection, though that doesn't actually affect anything I said. You're an oversensitive, whiney little twat, or, if you'd prefer, brat. Jesus, man, you can't take a few jokes about your, admittedly unfair, suspension? You give everyone shit for everything but are too fragile to be made fun of? Grow some thicker e-skin. If I recall correctly, BLS made more jokes about his than anybody. I never thought I'd say this: be more like BLS. I always thought I'd say this: be less like Dissection.

The reason people flame you isn't simply because it's cool (or wasn't originally and isn't always, since obviously sometimes it is); it's because you're an unpleasant person. Or maybe that's not true; maybe I'm the only one to insult you because I find you to be a repugnant waste, and everyone else does it because it's cool. But I doubt it.

And I never understood why you'd brown nose somebody online either. It is fucking pointless, I agree. I'm just happy to see that, now that I made those terrible, insensitive jokes about your tragic suspension from an online forum, I've made your shit list and won't have to puzzle over that shit anymore.

[Transient]

i think pretty much everyone that posted in this thread put too much thought into their posts

[far_beyond_sane]

Holy fucking Jebus. This thread used to be a place where I wrote cranky stuff and pimped my shit.

Why is it that everything that bears my name turns hostile and unpleasant?

[MoonRaven]

Holy fucking Jebus. This thread used to be a place where I wrote cranky stuff and pimped my shit.

Why is it that everything that bears my name turns hostile and unpleasant?
because you are hostile and unpleasant?

[andrewc]

yes. you are hostile, unpleasant, rude, vulgar and nasty.

and we bloody love you for it :love:

[far_beyond_sane]

because you are hostile and unpleasant?

Man's got a point.

I've noticed recently that the quality and efforts of flamage in general have gone up quite markedly. It's rather tremendous.

[Dissection]

I saw The True Dissection, though that doesn't actually affect anything I said. You're an oversensitive, whiney little twat, or, if you'd prefer, brat. Jesus, man, you can't take a few jokes about your, admittedly unfair, suspension? You give everyone shit for everything but are too fragile to be made fun of? Grow some thicker e-skin. If I recall correctly, BLS made more jokes about his than anybody. I never thought I'd say this: be more like BLS. I always thought I'd say this: be less like Dissection.

The reason people flame you isn't simply because it's cool (or wasn't originally and isn't always, since obviously sometimes it is); it's because you're an unpleasant person. Or maybe that's not true; maybe I'm the only one to insult you because I find you to be a repugnant waste, and everyone else does it because it's cool. But I doubt it.

And I never understood why you'd brown nose somebody online either. It is fucking pointless, I agree. I'm just happy to see that, now that I made those terrible, insensitive jokes about your tragic suspension from an online forum, I've made your shit list and won't have to puzzle over that shit anymore.

No, see, joking around is one thing. All I ever do is fuck around with people. I just get tired of idiots who go around saying shit about me because its the norm around here. At least you have a reason for not liking me.

Thicker e-skin? Jesus Christ, I'm not that much of a bitch.

[BLS]

be more like BLS. I always thought I'd say this: be less like Dissection.

Dissy will NEVER be as cool as me..

[PST 88]

Yes, you are.

And no, he won't. Incidentally, I'll be at Suffocation/Behemoth/BDM tomorrow. If you want to be cool like Def, PM me. If not, I'll catch you at Cryptopsy. Or not.

[BLS]

Shit its already tommorrow? :eek:

God dammit.. Guess I wont be going :( I am going to the Dime Benifit though :)

Are you going to King Diamond/Nile/BDM? http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/04003955A4BC25FA?brand=hob&majorcatid=10001&artistid=768438&minorcatid=200

Oh, what about ATREYU!!! :p http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/400398FBA88274E?brand=hob

Ill be there to see Unearth.. then Im leaving.

The only Chicago Cryptopsy show I can find is in Sauget.. and I wont be going there.. I could have swore they were playing at the HOB.

And dont expect any PM's.. ever. I wont be deleting anything in my PM box.. its a pain in the ass and Im lazy.

[PST 88]

Yeah, I'm about to leave, actually. Just need a change.

I'm pretty sure Cryptopsy's at the House of Blues, but I don't know. I think it popped up as a 'related link' when I was searching for the Suffocation start time.

I'll probably be there for King Diamond, but I don't know about Atreyu. If I do, I'll probably be leaving at about the same time you are.

Re-post your email address, then. It takes about one click to empty your mailbox, though.

[BLS]

Cryptopsy666@sbcglobal.net

[andrewc]

fucking hell. i can keep my mouth shut no longer.

THIS COUNTRY'S FUCKING OBESITY PROBLEM SHITS THE HELL OUT OF ME.

before you jump to conclusions, this is not going to be a rant about office blokes who manage to keep in shape with only a small tummy, or about girls who have a bit of puppy fat, or any little tiny weight problem which is fine in this day and age of anorexia and bulimia nervosa. (and of which i actually prefer the latter, as it gives me more to love :love: )

this is about fucking fat-arsed obese people. the kind that you see (struggling to) walking down the street with their incredibly huge amounts of flab wobbling every which way. the kind that take up an entire footpath so you have to walk on the road to avoid bumping into them (putting yourself in danger of cars, trucks and STRAY DOG SHIT ON THE WAY THERE).

every time an employer tells someone they are "a tad overweight" (they're being a tad too pleasant mind you), somebody smells "SCANDAL" and 2 days later, that person will be on today tonight, crying blüppy tears that run down to their 5,000 chins, saying how this discrimination has fucked them up for life. well i'll tell you something matey. it's your unstoppable lust for lard, and your unrelenting fetish for fat that's fucked up your life, not the fault of the kind person who's just protected all the people in her restaurant from your man-tits knocking the food off the table, or from your chin hairs reaching low enough to pierce a hairdressing customers neck, or whatever place you just took 3 hours to waddle your gigantic rear end up the street to.

and everytime i, very politely may i add, ask an obese man to shift one seat over on the bus or the tram, i get this unrelenting display of how i'm being offensive, it's people like me who's stereotyping makes the world a worse place. well. I MIGHT JUST TELL YOU SOMETHING I FIND OFFENSIVE.

i am offended by the fact that i have to stare at your impossible-to-notice whale etiquette for 45 minutes on a tram journey to the city. i am offended by the stench of you, sweating with the effort of just sitting there, penetrating my nostrils like a surface-piercing tactical nuclear bomb on a house made of straw. i am offended by your heat-waves as a result of your sweat again, which by sitting down, results in enough sweat to give the entire population of indonesia drinking water for a fortnight. i am offended by your colossal cheeks taking up two seats. perhaps national bus company or yarra trams might like to charge double for these people, as the result is less passengers for them, resulting in a loss of profit? hmmm?

oh dear, i'm being stereotyped! you're not actually fat, you have large bones! well perhaps if darwin's theory of evolution from ape to man was proved wrong for any reason, you could claim that your father was a dinosaur. there is no other explanation for this appalling display of excess. i do beg your pardon, it's not your fault because it's glandular. again, no family would be in that much excess of obesity, yet you've grown up thinking that it is fine to stuff your face with 10kg of food at afternoon-tea time, twice this rate for breakfast, lunch and dinner. you grow up thinking it's acceptable to look like this because all your relatives do. WELL IT AIN'T BUDDY. FOR US NORMAL FOLK THAT HAVE TO TOLERATE THE MORBIDLY FLABTACULAR BLOCKING THE ROAD WITH A GREAT WALL OF BLUBBER.

might i add to this: fuck you john howard and steve bracks, in each others crusty and ancient arseholes, for attempting to eliminate physical education in schools to make way for more educational classes. you heard me correctly.
THE OBESITY RATE IS SOARING IN YOUNG CHILDREN TODAY, AND JENNY FUCKING CRAIG CALLS FOR AN 8TH-PERIOD STUDY OF PYTHAGORUS!!

we are discussing australia's obesity problem which WILL NOT be solved by forcing kids to listen to some dribbling centigenarian droning on like a european wasp about advanced algebraic equations. but i'm straying from the topic.

which i really have nothing else to add on apart from: go on a fucking diet. call weight-watchers and they will be GLAD to help you rid of that unsightly excess.

[JoeYngVai]

fucking hell. i can keep my mouth shut no longer.

THIS COUNTRY'S FUCKING OBESITY PROBLEM SHITS THE HELL OUT OF ME.

before you jump to conclusions, this is not going to be a rant about office blokes who manage to keep in shape with only a small tummy, or about girls who have a bit of puppy fat, or any little tiny weight problem which is fine in this day and age of anorexia and bulimia nervosa. (and of which i actually prefer the latter, as it gives me more to love :love: )

this is about fucking fat-arsed obese people. the kind that you see (struggling to) walking down the street with their incredibly huge amounts of flab wobbling every which way. the kind that take up an entire footpath so you have to walk on the road to avoid bumping into them (putting yourself in danger of cars, trucks and STRAY DOG SHIT ON THE WAY THERE).

every time an employer tells someone they are "a tad overweight" (they're being a tad too pleasant mind you), somebody smells "SCANDAL" and 2 days later, that person will be on today tonight, crying blüppy tears that run down to their 5,000 chins, saying how this discrimination has fucked them up for life. well i'll tell you something matey. it's your unstoppable lust for lard, and your unrelenting fetish for fat that's fucked up your life, not the fault of the kind person who's just protected all the people in her restaurant from your man-tits knocking the food off the table, or from your chin hairs reaching low enough to pierce a hairdressing customers neck, or whatever place you just took 3 hours to waddle your gigantic rear end up the street to.

and everytime i, very politely may i add, ask an obese man to shift one seat over on the bus or the tram, i get this unrelenting display of how i'm being offensive, it's people like me who's stereotyping makes the world a worse place. well. I MIGHT JUST TELL YOU SOMETHING I FIND OFFENSIVE.

i am offended by the fact that i have to stare at your impossible-to-notice whale etiquette for 45 minutes on a tram journey to the city. i am offended by the stench of you, sweating with the effort of just sitting there, penetrating my nostrils like a surface-piercing tactical nuclear bomb on a house made of straw. i am offended by your heat-waves as a result of your sweat again, which by sitting down, results in enough sweat to give the entire population of indonesia drinking water for a fortnight. i am offended by your colossal cheeks taking up two seats. perhaps national bus company or yarra trams might like to charge double for these people, as the result is less passengers for them, resulting in a loss of profit? hmmm?

oh dear, i'm being stereotyped! you're not actually fat, you have large bones! well perhaps if darwin's theory of evolution from ape to man was proved wrong for any reason, you could claim that your father was a dinosaur. there is no other explanation for this appalling display of excess. i do beg your pardon, it's not your fault because it's glandular. again, no family would be in that much excess of obesity, yet you've grown up thinking that it is fine to stuff your face with 10kg of food at afternoon-tea time, twice this rate for breakfast, lunch and dinner. you grow up thinking it's acceptable to look like this because all your relatives do. WELL IT AIN'T BUDDY. FOR US NORMAL FOLK THAT HAVE TO TOLERATE THE MORBIDLY FLABTACULAR BLOCKING THE ROAD WITH A GREAT WALL OF BLUBBER.

might i add to this: fuck you john howard and steve bracks, in each others crusty and ancient arseholes, for attempting to eliminate physical education in schools to make way for more educational classes. you heard me correctly.
THE OBESITY RATE IS SOARING IN YOUNG CHILDREN TODAY, AND JENNY FUCKING CRAIG CALLS FOR AN 8TH-PERIOD STUDY OF PYTHAGORUS!!

we are discussing australia's obesity problem which WILL NOT be solved by forcing kids to listen to some dribbling centigenarian droning on like a european wasp about advanced algebraic equations. but i'm straying from the topic.

which i really have nothing else to add on apart from: go on a fucking diet. call weight-watchers and they will be GLAD to help you rid of that unsightly excess.

I'll admit, there are many people with obesity problems in America. Has anybody else seen the lady that can clap without her hands? That movie upsets me... I am willing to post a link later, but I can only stand to see her happy-looking face for so long.

EDIT: Well, here it is: http://kontraband.com/show/show.asp?ID=1082&NEXTID=0&PREVID=1759&DISPLAYORDER=20041215143106&CAT=movies&NSFW=&page=2

2nd EDIT: She GIGGLES at the end?!!!!

[MoonRaven]

fat people suck!!!!11!1!

GRRRR

[powersofterror]

Haha. You should go to illwillpress.com. That hilarious squirrel does a nice rant about obesity.

[far_beyond_sane]

I heartily approve of this thread's return to complaining about things instead of conducting pissing matches. And the denigration of fat people is necessary and right.

I'm updating today.

www.drcuntsworthy.com

[andrewc]

I heartily approve of this thread's return to complaining about things instead of conducting pissing matches. And the denigration of fat people is necessary and right.

I'm updating today.

www.drcuntsworthy.com

thanks all, i thought it was about time somebody spoke up about this horrendous fucking problem.

[low-tech]

andrewc, a milion posts ago you refered to greek people as "wogs", do people actually call them that and do they refer to each other as that in australia?, what does the word wog come from?

i only ask cause im greek and i never heard that term before,that post about wogs and jungle babies and greeks going back to the jungle in general is totally bizzare, i just have to ask

[andrewc]

andrewc, a milion posts ago you refered to greek people as "wogs", do people actually call them that and do they refer to each other as that in australia?, what does the word wog come from?

i only ask cause im greek and i never heard that term before,that post about wogs and jungle babies and greeks going back to the jungle in general is totally bizzare, i just have to ask

a million posts, i wish tee hee hee :p

yeah they do get called that, it used to be an offensive term like "nigger," but which has gotten considerably less offensive and more mainstream in conjunction with the rise of rap music.

i'm not too sure on the origin of it, but i think i remember a greek friend of mine saying it stands for "west originating gentleman." however, don't quote me on it.

and greeks aren't the ones in the jungle mate, i think my post about racism, you may have misinterpreted just a little bit :p

[johnmansley]

THE OBESITY RATE IS SOARING IN YOUNG CHILDREN TODAY, AND JENNY FUCKING CRAIG CALLS FOR AN 8TH-PERIOD STUDY OF PYTHAGORUS!!

we are discussing australia's obesity problem which WILL NOT be solved by forcing kids to listen to some dribbling centigenarian droning on like a european wasp about advanced algebraic equations. but i'm straying from the topic.

Seriously, if a kid can't grasp Pythagoras' Theorem after 20 minutes then the kid needs to give up and try something else. Like physical education.

Kids are fed so many myths about trigonometry and algebra that they go into classes thinking that it's hard when it really isn't. There's half the battle lost right there. It's easy. Easy. I could teach trigonometry and algebra to a mentally retarded monkey, it's that easy. Even basic calculus is simple and could be taught quite easily at 11 and 12 instead of 16+. Integrating the exponential of a squared function in 3-dimensional cartesian coordinates is hard, not trig and algebra.

Mathematics in general is given the tag of being a difficult subject. Don't get me wrong, it is difficult when you get into the more complex equations and rigorous theorems, but it's not if you go into it knowing that you can grasp it - especially at high school level. If you start studying it thinking that you're going to fail because your dad said it's hard then you will fail in due course. The whole mental approach to it is wrong.

To illustrate, here's a typical conversation that I could have with somebody:

Person: "So what did you study at university?"
Me: "Mathematics."
Person: *Eyes widen, eyebrows raise* "Woah, you must be insane or something."

This is typical of everybody who has found out about my degree and it is indicative of the misconception of the difficulty appropriated to mathematics by people who give up at the first hurdle. This brings up the issue of intelligence. I'm not particularly intelligent, if I was I could have done absolutely no work and still passed with 1st class honours anyway but as it is I had to work my socks off to gain an upper second class degree.

However, the majority of people would say that I was intelligent for the simple fact that I can calculate even the most simple of integrands (most people I know would be dumbfounded by me integrating x between 0 and 1, even though I could teach them to do it in, literally, 2 minutes). There is a popular daytime programme here in the UK called Countdown. It's basically a words and numbers game. The numbers aspect revolves around selecting at random 6 unknown numbers and then using these numbers to calculated a random figure. For example, you could have 1, 4, 7, 8, 25, 100 and then have to use these numbers to calculate 676.

You'd have to see it to get the jist but anyway, there is a woman by the name of Carol Vorderman who does the numbers part in double quick time. Invariably, she gets it and considering that they only have 30 seconds to do it, it is quite impressive. But the general public rate Ms Vorderman as being intelligent, even though she only obtained a 3rd class degree in engineering. Is adding up quick all it takes for people to be regarded as intelligent?

Anyway, my point is that you don't need to be intelligent to be good at mathematics and, as a caviat, just because you excel at mathematics doesn't mean you should be automatically considered intelligent. In the majority of cases, it is simply hard work that is the predominant factor. There lies the key: put the hard work in and it becomes easy. This links back nicely to Andrew's point of laziness: you don't get anywhere by being lazy. You won't lose weight by being lazy and you certainly won't be good at maths if you are lazy unless you possess a propensity for mathematics like Guass or Newton.

[andrewc]

Seriously, if a kid can't grasp Pythagoras' Theorem after 20 minutes then the kid needs to give up and try something else. Like physical education.

Kids are fed so many myths about trigonometry and algebra that they go into classes thinking that it's hard when it really isn't. There's half the battle lost right there. It's easy. Easy. I could teach trigonometry and algebra to a mentally retarded monkey, it's that easy. Even basic calculus is simple and could be taught quite easily at 11 and 12 instead of 16+. Integrating the exponential of a squared function in 3-dimensional cartesian coordinates is hard, not trig and algebra.

Mathematics in general is given the tag of being a difficult subject. Don't get me wrong, it is difficult when you get into the more complex equations and rigorous theorems, but it's not if you go into it knowing that you can grasp it - especially at high school level. If you start studying it thinking that you're going to fail because your dad said it's hard then you will fail in due course. The whole mental approach to it is wrong.

To illustrate, here's a typical conversation that I could have with somebody:

Person: "So what did you study at university?"
Me: "Mathematics."
Person: *Eyes widen, eyebrows raise* "Woah, you must be insane or something."

This is typical of everybody who has found out about my degree and it is indicative of the misconception of the difficulty appropriated to mathematics by people who give up at the first hurdle. This brings up the issue of intelligence. I'm not particularly intelligent, if I was I could have done absolutely no work and still passed with 1st class honours anyway but as it is I had to work my socks off to gain an upper second class degree.

However, the majority of people would say that I was intelligent for the simple fact that I can calculate even the most simple of integrands (most people I know would be dumbfounded by me integrating x between 0 and 1, even though I could teach them to do it in, literally, 2 minutes). There is a popular daytime programme here in the UK called Countdown. It's basically a words and numbers game. The numbers aspect revolves around selecting at random 6 unknown numbers and then using these numbers to calculated a random figure. For example, you could have 1, 4, 7, 8, 25, 100 and then have to use these numbers to calculate 676.

You'd have to see it to get the jist but anyway, there is a woman by the name of Carol Vorderman who does the numbers part in double quick time. Invariably, she gets it and considering that they only have 30 seconds to do it, it is quite impressive. But the general public rate Ms Vorderman as being intelligent, even though she only obtained a 3rd class degree in engineering. Is adding up quick all it takes for people to be regarded as intelligent?

Anyway, my point is that you don't need to be intelligent to be good at mathematics and, as a caviat, just because you excel at mathematics doesn't mean you should be automatically considered intelligent. In the majority of cases, it is simply hard work that is the predominant factor. There lies the key: put the hard work in and it becomes easy. This links back nicely to Andrew's point of laziness: you don't get anywhere by being lazy. You won't lose weight by being lazy and you certainly won't be good at maths if you are lazy unless you possess a propensity for mathematics like Guass or Newton.

hehehe....yeh. well actually i was only using the mathematics to illustrate my point, but i was quite impressed with that little speech there, john. i would regard you as being highly intelligent, because mathematics is completely beyond me. everyone says i'm a "bright kid," and i am good at a lot of other subjects like english, music, drama, geography, history to name a few, but mathematics and science are two subjects that are completely beyond me, and i have some trouble understanding fairly common mathematical rules, like pythagorus (a2 + b2 = c2 is about as far as i get), and 2piR as well.

and i wouldn't call you insane, i am just quite impressed. now for my next rambling, i want to ramble about bands who release songs by the name of "shut up," but i don't think it's broad enough.

[powersofterror]

I was never good in the math class. However, Astronomy/Physics were somwhow better for me-maybe it is because my Astronomy class now is based more on concept with only few equations to remember.
now for my next rambling, i want to ramble about bands who release songs by the name of "shut up," but i don't think it's broad enough.
Ya know what's funny? I've always wanted to do some nameless rant here, but that's almost the sole reason I have't yet-because I don't have the patience to broaden my statements with fireballs.

[blizzard_beast]

Listen to John Mansley kids! It's all down to either laziness or total retardness. If you can't pick up a book and practice some exercises for you exams for an hour, then you don't deserve to be in school.

I got 10% for my algebra test once, so before the retake, I just sat down and studied for an hour. Next day I got 85%.

[DameFraMorkum]

He's right. Mansley is a very sharp gentleman indeed.

[MoonRaven]

i hate bad smells, there is a hall at my highschool that always smells like week old shit, and i hate it, becuase it is a fairly long hall, and it is also the fastest way to get across the school.

[Cloaca]

i hate bad smells, there is a hall at my highschool that always smells like week old shit, and i hate it, becuase it is a fairly long hall, and it is also the fastest way to get across the school.
It's not so bad when the smells come from you though.

[low-tech]

andrewc. well, it was, i guess, the "greasy bastard" reference to the "go back to the jungle comment" was what i misunderstood, greeks also have been living in the middle east, india and africa for about 2300 years or so now too, egypt mostly<desert not jungle>,but yeah, many people dont know about that or much care, alot of greek migrants are from somewhere else besides greece,speak arabic and so on,anyways, im not offended or anything

today i ate a gyro, watched the movie troy.......horribly inaccurate,embarrasing to watch

1>meneleus does not die in the iliad, he gets helen back
2>argomenmon does not not die in the iliad
3>hector didnt kill ajax
4>priam never had a sword heirloom for paris
5>phallanxes rarely broke line and charged indiscriminately into other phallanx lines, they slowly manuvered trying to flank,surround,divide thier opponents
6>what the fuck are egyptians statues doing at a temple of apollo
7>those statues are also way too big
8>columns are way too big, and they taper and are way too stylized in a way the greeks never made them
9>fight scenes seem more like kung fu,jet li lite
10>troy is the size of manhattan, and is UNPAINTED, house paint did exist then
11>triremes were also painted, the eyes werent noticable enough
12>the greeks were never united then and argomenmon was not thier ruler. he just had the most clout
13>where are the gods anyway? mt olympus anyone?
14>the iliad was written 600 years after a series of wars that happened on the anatolian penninsula, the story itself is obviously an oral history that is mythological in nature, its as if they tried to recreate a realistic version of events to one war that was a collage' of many different myths and wars and long winded tales
15>the film was shot in mexico
16>everyones either british or american, who would make better vikings than greeks
17>the siege took 9 years and it was actually a siege, not a beach party
18>none's wearing a toga and what the fuck is that tie-dye shit
19>i saw some purple cloths there in some shots.......that dye was rare and was a phoenician monopoly for a couple of millenium
20>whatever happened to catapults and balistas or siege towers, a well supplied army would bring materials and would actually try to "dig in" fortify the camp, if they can build a big horse they can build at least ladders and towers to breach walls the nine years prior to the horse idea

sorry if this is a little boring,but the iliad was a religious text to my ancestors. and would of been a cool movie had not some assholes made it into a mindless power violence movie filled with human hamburger and ultra stoic dudeness. i hear now that they are gonna make hannibal of carthage starring vin diesel, they'll probably fuck that one up too

[Cloaca]

wasn't agamemnon killed by his jealous wife?

[johnmansley]

gentleman

There's a first time for everything!

today i ate a gyro, watched the movie troy.......horribly inaccurate,embarrasing to watch

1>meneleus does not die in the iliad, he gets helen back
2>argomenmon does not not die in the iliad
3>hector didnt kill ajax
4>priam never had a sword heirloom for paris
5>phallanxes rarely broke line and charged indiscriminately into other phallanx lines, they slowly manuvered trying to flank,surround,divide thier opponents
6>what the fuck are egyptians statues doing at a temple of apollo
7>those statues are also way too big
8>columns are way too big, and they taper and are way too stylized in a way the greeks never made them
9>fight scenes seem more like kung fu,jet li lite
10>troy is the size of manhattan, and is UNPAINTED, house paint did exist then
11>triremes were also painted, the eyes werent noticable enough
12>the greeks were never united then and argomenmon was not thier ruler. he just had the most clout
13>where are the gods anyway? mt olympus anyone?
14>the iliad was written 600 years after a series of wars that happened on the anatolian penninsula, the story itself is obviously an oral history that is mythological in nature, its as if they tried to recreate a realistic version of events to one war that was a collage' of many different myths and wars and long winded tales
15>the film was shot in mexico
16>everyones either british or american, who would make better vikings than greeks
17>the siege took 9 years and it was actually a siege, not a beach party
18>none's wearing a toga and what the fuck is that tie-dye shit
19>i saw some purple cloths there in some shots.......that dye was rare and was a phoenician monopoly for a couple of millenium
20>whatever happened to catapults and balistas or siege towers, a well supplied army would bring materials and would actually try to "dig in" fortify the camp, if they can build a big horse they can build at least ladders and towers to breach walls the nine years prior to the horse idea

sorry if this is a little boring,but the iliad was a religious text to my ancestors. and would of been a cool movie had not some assholes made it into a mindless power violence movie filled with human hamburger and ultra stoic dudeness. i hear now that they are gonna make hannibal of carthage starring vin diesel, they'll probably fuck that one up too

But don't let all this get in the way of Hollwood's mission to bastardise history. Such facts (if the Illiad can be considered fact, that is) are generally overlooked by production big-wigs and have been since Burbank saw it's first studio. According to Tinsel Town, an American single-handedly won the Battle Of Britain even though in reality the dozen or so Americans who flew in the sortee didn't record a single kill between them.

[Chris Rezendes]

Seriously, if a kid can't grasp Pythagoras' Theorem after 20 minutes then the kid needs to give up and try something else. Like physical education.

Kids are fed so many myths about trigonometry and algebra that they go into classes thinking that it's hard when it really isn't. There's half the battle lost right there. It's easy. Easy. I could teach trigonometry and algebra to a mentally retarded monkey, it's that easy. Even basic calculus is simple and could be taught quite easily at 11 and 12 instead of 16+. Integrating the exponential of a squared function in 3-dimensional cartesian coordinates is hard, not trig and algebra.

Mathematics in general is given the tag of being a difficult subject. Don't get me wrong, it is difficult when you get into the more complex equations and rigorous theorems, but it's not if you go into it knowing that you can grasp it - especially at high school level. If you start studying it thinking that you're going to fail because your dad said it's hard then you will fail in due course. The whole mental approach to it is wrong.

To illustrate, here's a typical conversation that I could have with somebody:

Person: "So what did you study at university?"
Me: "Mathematics."
Person: *Eyes widen, eyebrows raise* "Woah, you must be insane or something."

This is typical of everybody who has found out about my degree and it is indicative of the misconception of the difficulty appropriated to mathematics by people who give up at the first hurdle. This brings up the issue of intelligence. I'm not particularly intelligent, if I was I could have done absolutely no work and still passed with 1st class honours anyway but as it is I had to work my socks off to gain an upper second class degree.

However, the majority of people would say that I was intelligent for the simple fact that I can calculate even the most simple of integrands (most people I know would be dumbfounded by me integrating x between 0 and 1, even though I could teach them to do it in, literally, 2 minutes). There is a popular daytime programme here in the UK called Countdown. It's basically a words and numbers game. The numbers aspect revolves around selecting at random 6 unknown numbers and then using these numbers to calculated a random figure. For example, you could have 1, 4, 7, 8, 25, 100 and then have to use these numbers to calculate 676.

You'd have to see it to get the jist but anyway, there is a woman by the name of Carol Vorderman who does the numbers part in double quick time. Invariably, she gets it and considering that they only have 30 seconds to do it, it is quite impressive. But the general public rate Ms Vorderman as being intelligent, even though she only obtained a 3rd class degree in engineering. Is adding up quick all it takes for people to be regarded as intelligent?

Anyway, my point is that you don't need to be intelligent to be good at mathematics and, as a caviat, just because you excel at mathematics doesn't mean you should be automatically considered intelligent. In the majority of cases, it is simply hard work that is the predominant factor. There lies the key: put the hard work in and it becomes easy. This links back nicely to Andrew's point of laziness: you don't get anywhere by being lazy. You won't lose weight by being lazy and you certainly won't be good at maths if you are lazy unless you possess a propensity for mathematics like Guass or Newton.

It seems so easy to you because you are likely a mathematical genius. I am quite strong in math myself, although I definitely haven't gone out of my to study it (I find it incredibly boring and time consuming, and I always get writer's cramp because I can't write down the answers as fast as I can calculate them, a problem I also have with English classes). Most people are not that strong in math. Oddly, modern IQ tests are geared strongly toward Mathematical IQ's, and people who score especially high in IQ tests are usually exceptionally good at math. There are other forms of genius that can't really be discerned from such a test, such as musical genius. I could only hope I'd be considered one of those as well!

[johnmansley]

It seems so easy to you because you are likely a mathematical genius. I am quite strong in math myself, although I definitely haven't gone out of my to study it (I find it incredibly boring and time consuming, and I always get writer's cramp because I can't write down the answers as fast as I can calculate them, a problem I also have with English classes). Most people are not that strong in math. Oddly, modern IQ tests are geared strongly toward Mathematical IQ's, and people who score especially high in IQ tests are usually exceptionally good at math. There are other forms of genius that can't really be discerned from such a test, such as musical genius. I could only hope I'd be considered one of those as well!

IQ tests are very strongly targeted towards testing one's ability to detect patterns and relationships between different quantities and as a result this translates almost seemlessly to mathematical ability. I scored decently on an IQ test (around 120) but as you hinted, IQ tests are certainly not something that I would guage intelligence by.

[brainsforbreakfast]

it was actually a siege, not a beach party


ahahahaha :D

[DameFraMorkum]

Well someone with a really high IQ isn't going to be a moron, and a moron isn't going to have a really high IQ. IQs are more of a range. They're not a "dead on" type of thing.

[low-tech]

i took an IQ test in high school, i remember the name of the test,woodcock-johnson, they broke it down in catagories of academics like math and spelling, so on, then memory and then visual and hearing comprehension, i dont remember if i scored a 113 or 118 at it and that was considered average, above 120 was considered exceptional and above 140 was genius, the thing about the test i didnt like was the hearing test, my hearing is really bad, always has been, didnt help that i had been playing drums for years at that time, i scored a romper room number at the hearing and math, but i did score a genius level at the visual comprehension stuff, the final score was averaged between each catagory

so my conclusion on IQ tests is that its only something that is relevent to the world of schooling,learning as far as academics are concerned, and if english was not my first language id score alot lower, theres no common-sense test and anything that may understand that you may be a total OCD everythingphobic who washed his hands 50 times a day and only opens doors with napkins for fear of germs. and memory lumped together with cognitive ability really stretches the definition on IQ, i know plenty of brilliant stoners who forget whos drag on the joint is it as its being passed around, they first forget who's turn, then forget in what direction was it being passed, since i dont smoke weed anymore i love watching this happen.

i think argomenmon dies in the odyssey,i havent gotten to how yet, im reading it on and off, as with the iliad, i cant sit down and read that shit in a linear fashion, its really dense,verbatim filled stuff and in old greek i believe its in rhyme scheme poetry, like an epic rap song, i forget all the names and stuff, they all sound like obscure diseases. hepititus,son of gingivitus,son of eczema,from the city of scabies in the land of psyriasis etc.

[far_beyond_sane]

Y'all stop bashing intelligence testing.

Sure, it's the least scientific thing in the world, but there's stilll a buttocks-load worth of difference between the crappy 70s-era 'reasoning-based' assessments thing they make you do at school and any decent modern intelligence battery.

John, that gameshow sounds rather fun. Can you do something like 7*100 - 25 +1 or do you have to use all the numbers?

To the guy who did the reaming of Troy TEH MOVIEZZ HOLYWOOD!!1 - that was fucking sweet. I absolutely hated that fucking travesty of a movie, and I didn't watch more than 6 minutes of it.

[powersofterror]

I was always led to believe that official IQ tests are only administered by practicing psychiatrists. But I could be wrong....:rolleyes:more than likely...

[johnmansley]

John, that gameshow sounds rather fun. Can you do something like 7*100 - 25 +1 or do you have to use all the numbers?

You don't have to use all the numbers, so your answer would be fine.

Here's a link that explains the show in more detail than my post:

http://www.ukgameshows.com/index.php/Countdown

It's quite good - I used to watch it during my university days. I very rarely get to see it these days now that I'm a grown up.

[BeastOfCarrion]

I was always led to believe that official IQ tests are only administered by practicing psychiatrists. But I could be wrong....:rolleyes:more than likely...
i spose it depends on how accurate you want them to be.
i did one on a computer when I was rather young, and got 138, does that mean i am the smartest person here?
Nope, there is lots of stuff i don't know, the only thing that it could refer to is my general ability to get correct answers to simple questions fast, ON THAT TEST. They are subjective both in relation to the person and to the test. Do not reguard them as the end of discussion, if you score below average, so what? People are all good at one thing or another. Weather that be strength, agility, inteligence or charisma. If there was some kind of universal way we could test people in ALL areas in which they can achieve in, then I am confident that we would find everybody to be rather close to similar.

[Cloaca]

To the guy who did the reaming of Troy TEH MOVIEZZ HOLYWOOD!!1 - that was fucking sweet. I absolutely hated that fucking travesty of a movie, and I didn't watch more than 6 minutes of it.

You watched that far? Whoa....

And this may surprise some of you, but I scored 132 on an IQ test when I was six. No bullshit. I was a bit of a prodigy. Problem is, I haven't improved much since. Hell, I didn't even finish school!

[powersofterror]

Didn't even finish school...!?!

[andrewc]

just because of homework, right tim? i think something like 80% of people have dropped out of school because they just couldn't keep up with homework. it's a travesty. i think the only homework, should be stuff not finished in class. i think i may be heading that way too (dropping out of school) because if you miss one thing, don't hand just one thing in on time, you fail the unit and therefore the semester, therefore they won't have you back. it's an abomination.

[SmotPoker]

the only thing i regret from droping out was that i coudnt see my friends everyday. other than that i think it was a pretty good decision, i just got my GED last december so im totaly done with school now, im glad i didnt wait to get that either.

[low-tech]

i dropped out in 12th grade, went to community college,took a semester worth of classes, finished a years worth of high school, got my high school diploma

i was pissed, i could of skipped high school completely, 2 years of community college, diploma in hand, college credit to boot

community college ruled, spend like 3 hours in classes, go home at like noon<or however you determine your class scheduling>, whole day wide open, no bullshit, no popularity contest, no jocks or gang members, no tyrant teachers, no hassles about band t-shirts and stuff,which was a big thing in my school when i went years ago. everyone is either 30,single moms getting a nurse degree, or people doing the same as your doing

you could actually have a 30+ hour work week and not get totally bogged down while going, i wished i knew better back then

[brainsforbreakfast]

Wow.. this thread has gotten waaaaaaay offtopic. Just be glad I'm not as mod ya cunts :p

[far_beyond_sane]

I don't mind a whole lot. I just use it for updating my crap anyway.

By accident or by design, a cranky woman found my site. She's amusing, if not a little dense (http://drcuntsworthy.com/node/20).

[fatdanny]

i think something like 80% of people have dropped out of school because they just couldn't keep up with homework. it's a travesty. i think the only homework, should be stuff not finished in class.

But then you would not cover the topics in enough detail and fail anyway. The key is not to miss a deadline - then you don't get into the habit. Although I know nothing about you or your school, I think that (generally) nobody gets an unreasonable amount of work to do, especially when you are still in school. 80% of people who moan about it are lazy.

[Nihilist]

but hes still stupid
HA! This is by far, the most interesting comment I have read in a long time. PST? STUPID? HA! HAHAHAH! HAAAAAAFUCKINGHAHAHA!

[Nihilist]

Oh, and I managed to gather a few pieces of previous arguments in this thread. I seen my name, Dissection getting suspended (ha), etc etc.

I know a lot of Asians. I fuck one. Maybe that is why I was so sensitive about Dissection's comment, which I can't even remember now. Sure, it was an unfair suspension. A lot of perm bans I enforce are quite unfair. I can't tolerate senseless racism. I will suspend people that give me a reason to. Only people I kinda don't like. Then it is just so pant-shittingly fun I giggle for days on end about it.

[blizzard_beast]

Meh. Asian chicks are ugly. "Me love wyou wong tyme. Sucky fucky?"
Please don't ban me!

[MetalThrashingMad]

Meh. Asian chicks are ugly. "Me love wyou wong tyme. Sucky fucky?"
Please don't ban me!


Most asian chicks ARE ugly. Def dresses up like an asian chick, now hes gonna be offended. :(

[brainsforbreakfast]

Meh. Asian chicks are ugly. "Me love wyou wong tyme. Sucky fucky?"
Please don't ban me!

Most asian chicks ARE ugly. Def dresses up like an asian chick, now hes gonna be offended. :(

Maybe... but aren't they like...tight? Being petite and all :confused:

[Chris Rezendes]

IQ tests are very strongly targeted towards testing one's ability to detect patterns and relationships between different quantities and as a result this translates almost seemlessly to mathematical ability. I scored decently on an IQ test (around 120) but as you hinted, IQ tests are certainly not something that I would guage intelligence by.

Oh, I would certainly gauge intelligence at least partially by the results of an IQ test. There are obvious biases toward certain types of intelligences, those that are more quantifiable, but also those that have far more practical use. The types of intelligence discerned by an IQ test are by far the most important types of intelligence a person could have in this world, and therefore, completely relevant.

By the way, 120ish isn't decent. 100 is average, 110 is decent. 120 is well above average.

[BeastOfCarrion]

Now hold on there Chris, MANY jobs don't require inteligence, what about jobs that are just mindless repetition? OR jobs that require nothing more than brute strength? Many of these kinds of jobs have been dissapearing since the industrial revolution, but many still exist. To work these kinds of jobs people need to think verry little, they don't need to be creative, or to follow any of their own whims, they just need to shut up nad do what they are told, that generally being doing the same thing over and over again.
I feel that an IQ test doesn't measure inteligence, in that people can learn anything, and once that is memorised they can seem like an expert on a subject. I feel an IQ test is more of a measurement of peoples ability to think quickly, and adapt their mind to new concepts. That is what I would feel is a greater sign of inteligence than remembering useless facts.

Then again maybe i have missed both your point, and the point of the subject.

[Dissection]

Oh, I would certainly gauge intelligence at least partially by the results of an IQ test. There are obvious biases toward certain types of intelligences, those that are more quantifiable, but also those that have far more practical use. The types of intelligence discerned by an IQ test are by far the most important types of intelligence a person could have in this world, and therefore, completely relevant.

By the way, 120ish isn't decent. 100 is average, 110 is decent. 120 is well above average.

Well, here is a clue: I scored 130 about a year and a half ago. Intelligent, yes. An ass, yes. :p Oh wait, they have nothing to do with eachother. ;)

I don't think IQ tests show everything about a person. What I mean is, I know quite a few people who are very (book) smart, but have shit for common sense, and don't know their right from their left.

Intelligence is knowing how to use that book smart crap, and build something from it.

[Dissection]

Oh, and I managed to gather a few pieces of previous arguments in this thread. I seen my name, Dissection getting suspended (ha), etc etc.

I know a lot of Asians. I fuck one. Maybe that is why I was so sensitive about Dissection's comment, which I can't even remember now. Sure, it was an unfair suspension. A lot of perm bans I enforce are quite unfair. I can't tolerate senseless racism. I will suspend people that give me a reason to. Only people I kinda don't like. Then it is just so pant-shittingly fun I giggle for days on end about it.

Hey hey, I was kidding about it. I told you I don't hold it against you. And yeah, maybe your boyfriend being asian has something to do with it. ;) Just kidding.

[Nihilist]

Meh. Asian chicks are ugly. "Me love wyou wong tyme. Sucky fucky?"
Way to generalize, idiot. She was born here, and has an Australian accent.

And you really don't think I will take it personally when you say all asian chicks are ugly, when I happen to be dating one?

[DameFraMorkum]

Some guys will only date Asian girls. I don't like Asian guys, but if someone likes Asians, it's just a matter of preference.

[BeastOfCarrion]

Ive briefly talked to the lass Nihilist is refering to (i think, unless this is a different one). She seemed rather nice. Concequently, I would rather you all refrain from racial slurs against asians. I constantly hear lots of racial slurs against americans, about them being gun toating cunts, eager to pull the trigger at anthing that might move, either on its own, or if disturbed by a sight breeze. It doesn't mean I insult you all.

[Nihilist]

Some guys will only date Asian girls. I don't like Asian guys, but if someone likes Asians, it's just a matter of preference.
I don't date her because she is Asian. I date her because I like her.

And thanks, BoC. Yes, it is the same one.

[Rapture]

Oh, I would certainly gauge intelligence at least partially by the results of an IQ test. There are obvious biases toward certain types of intelligences, those that are more quantifiable, but also those that have far more practical use. The types of intelligence discerned by an IQ test are by far the most important types of intelligence a person could have in this world, and therefore, completely relevant.

By the way, 120ish isn't decent. 100 is average, 110 is decent. 120 is well above average.

ive taken 4 IQ tests in my life. my scores have been: 156, 163, 164, 159.

i dont find myself to be gut wrenchingly intelligent. i just think there is something about the way i think that makes these tests extremely easy for me.

[andrewc]

Some guys will only date Asian girls. I don't like Asian guys, but if someone likes Asians, it's just a matter of preference.

i don't care who dates who. jarrod goes out with an asian girl, so what. my mate is as well, he's not a racist he doesn't even notice somebody elses skin colour (apart from his taiwanese computer comment :rofl: ) but i don't think it matters. as long as you are happy with your partner, then that is the important thing.

my IQ is 120. kiwis are hotter than asians. there is my $0.02 worth.

[PST 88]

If you people don't specify the IQ tests, none of what you've posted means anything.

Anyway, I've never taken an IQ test, but when we reviewed them for a Psych class I kicked everyone's ass, then - since it was actually a part of the test (Huanker-Giackasz, 1997) - killed about a dozen ninjas, give or take one or two. The last one asked me to remember a series of numbers and tell him the relationship before he died, and right before his last breath I told him they were all Harmy-Ramanujan numbers. If I remember correctly, I scored ('hypothetically') a 1729, but I really can't remember.

Seriously, if you're going to discuss them, explain which IQ tests you've taken. Some of them are literally - and this is the word meant - created so that parents who don't understand why their precious child's genius isn't reflected in his grades can reaffirm their belief in his intellectual and mental superiority. They're also, as has been said, predicated towards a certain mode of thinking (mainly the more quantifiable way of thinking, since it's difficult to come up with a standardized test for aesthetic genius). Of course, if I ever do take one and come back with genius marks, they're obviously infallible.

Oh, and Jarrod: Dylan is not an Asian chick. Are you drunk?

Kiwis are stranded on an island with sheep for a reason, and it's not because they're hot.

[andrewc]

Kiwis are stranded on an island with sheep for a reason, and it's not because they're hot.

i can't put into words how much that part of your otherwise intelligent-as-usual post, is completely moronic, stupid, pointless, untrue and also how much i now see you as a complete and absolute anus for it.

[BeastOfCarrion]

Kiwis are stranded on an island with sheep for a reason, and it's not because they're hot.
Classic!

[andrewc]

:angry: :finger:

[brainsforbreakfast]

I've taken a few IQ tests, one taken by a psych. some 4 or 5 years ago (I think I scored somewhere between 114 and 120 then). I also did a lot of internet tests, the US ones rate me somwhere around 120, and the dutch ones between 120 and 130. But these internet tests say nothing, everyone knows they always rate you higher than you realy are.

[far_beyond_sane]

Cuntpests!

Using my fucking thread to declare, amongst other things, that:

1) Asian women are ugly. Whoever said this is a blind bigot and a moron and deserves to be shot. You probably haven't met any, you turds. You're not a fucking dreamboat sailing in a sea of Yellow, you're white, you're fleabitten and you're wrong.

2) Kiwi women are desirable. Whoever said this is probably also into furries, heffalumps and Mr. Men characters. Most of them look like they were scared backwards off a high thing onto an abrasive thing.

[Dissection]

Ive briefly talked to the lass Nihilist is refering to (i think, unless this is a different one). She seemed rather nice. Concequently, I would rather you all refrain from racial slurs against asians. I constantly hear lots of racial slurs against americans, about them being gun toating cunts, eager to pull the trigger at anthing that might move, either on its own, or if disturbed by a sight breeze. It doesn't mean I insult you all.

Yeah, but the sad thing is, the stereotype is true for the most part. This country is a shithole. If not for FoxNews, people might actually know that. But according to them, that moron in office is also "a good president."

Fuck fox news, fuck George Bush, and fuck those redneck christians who voted him back into office. Anyone who voted for George Bush lacks intelligence. I don't mean to offend any of you voting people who might've thrown it away, but seriously, who pissed in your fucking gene pool?

I don't date her because she is Asian. I date her because I like her.

And thanks, BoC. Yes, it is the same one.

Dating someone solely based on race seems a little stupid, but I know we all have our preferences.

[blizzard_beast]

Way to generalize, idiot. She was born here, and has an Australian accent.

And you really don't think I will take it personally when you say all asian chicks are ugly, when I happen to be dating one?

Jeez dude, way to take a extremely shitty joke too seriously. But yes that was quite a stupid comment to make. ;)

And FBS, I think Asian women are ugly, so what? That doesn't mean I'm a moron/racist/bigot (take your pick). We're all entitled to voice our opinions preferences, but you're not entitled to hurl criticisms at me just because I voice them. Fucking hell.

[Dissection]

Jeez dude, way to take a extremely shitty joke too seriously. But yes that was quite a stupid comment to make. ;)

SUSPENSION! SUSPENSION! ;)

[Nihilist]

Jeez dude, way to take a extremely shitty joke too seriously. But yes that was quite a stupid comment to make. ;)

And FBS, I think Asian women are ugly, so what? That doesn't mean I'm a moron/racist/bigot (take your pick). We're all entitled to voice our opinions preferences, but you're not entitled to hurl criticisms at me just because I voice them. Fucking hell.
You thought I took THAT too seriously? I could have taken it a whole lot further. I had every right to. Posting ludicrous comments as the one I took offense too surely deserved some sort of retort from me.

Exercise your jokes and lighten up on the ignorance, Bill Hicks.

Wait, you're English. I bet you have bad teeth and smell like crumpets. Same shit, sista.

[Dissection]

You thought I took THAT too seriously? I could have taken it a whole lot further. I had every right to. Posting ludicrous comments as the one I took offense too surely deserved some sort of retort from me.

Exercise your jokes and lighten up on the ignorance, Bill Hicks.

Wait, you're English. I bet you have bad teeth and smell like crumpets. Same shit, sista.

Hahaha... e-pwned. :)

[blizzard_beast]

Haha. Bill Hicks. Cute.

And no, I'm not English, "sista".

The only ludicrous comment I made was the Asian accent joke, and I realise how that could have offended you and other people on this board, so I apologise.

My other comments were pefectly valid however, and would not expect such ignorance from a person as intelligent as FBS.

[Dissection]

Just let it die, B.

[Nihilist]

Cute? I'll leave PST, Sane, or someone similar who uses English as a weapon to redefine cute for you, you little piss-ant. I've said my piece, perpare to be ripped apart.

Also, where is said ignorance in FBS' post?

[Dissection]

Ouch. You've done it now... Nilly Willy is pissed...

[Nihilist]

Yeah, so pissed that I completely cocked up the grammar.

[blizzard_beast]

Piss-ant? Oh dear...
When exactly have I insulted you? Is it beyond you to have a reasonable discussion? I think not.

I've said my piece, made my apology. Take it or leave it if you will. It doesn't really bother me.

Ignorance works both ways Nihilist

Asian women are ugly. Whoever said this is a blind bigot and a moron and deserves to be shot. You probably haven't met any, you turds. You're not a fucking dreamboat sailing in a sea of Yellow, you're white, you're fleabitten and you're wrong.

If he is eager enough to insult me and like-minded people about my own beliefs and opinions, then that is a most blatant cases of ignorance if I've ever saw one.

[Nihilist]

then that is a most blatant cases of ignorance if I've ever saw one? Oh dear...

[Dissection]

You know what? I like you, B. But the way you said it, no wonder everyone is throwing a fit about it. FBS says what he does, how he does. I've never seen him say anything NICE. So don't take it personal.

[blizzard_beast]

Yes indeed. Correction:

"Then that is one of the most blatant cases of ignorance if I've ever seen one"

Oh no, I cocked up on grammar.

Care to make any more useless comments? Or do you wish to respond to what I've said.

[Nihilist]

useless? Not at all. I was pointing out the irony of it all, fool. DO I HAVE TO FUCKING SPELL IT OUT?

And what is there to respond to? You want me to accept your apology? Or comment on your take of FBS' supposed ignorance? If you've said your piece, that generally means you shut the fuck up. But since you'd rather annoy me to a greater extent, we'll continue.

You initially offended me with your poor taste in jokes, which we have already established. Such a broad generalization is beyond retardation. You knew this. I don't care if it is an opinion or not, I'm disagreeing with it. The basis of an argument. Fancy that, eh?

[Dissection]

You initially offended me with your poor taste in jokes, which we have already established. Such a broad generalization is beyond retardation. You knew this. I don't care if it is an opinion or not, I'm disagreeing with it. The basis of an argument. Fancy that, eh?

I hate to get involved, but especially since I sent you a PM about why I got suspended, you went and made a joke like that? No, see, thats just asinine.

[blizzard_beast]

The irony of it all? Just because I made a few fucking grammar mistakes? I suggest you buy a simple dictionary and look up that word.

And yes, I realised my own "retardation" in the joke, and it was not thus I apologised. When I basically asked you to respond to my comment, I wished to know whether you have accepted my apology or not. Guess not, since you continue in this debate (if that is what you would like to call it).

So if by disagreeing with me, because of my stupid joke, then good. I agree with you. If you're disagreeing wih me and continuing to insult me due to my opinion that all Asian women are ugly, then whatever. That's my opinion and I stick with it, just as you.

Or maybe you took my opinion and foolish joke on a more personal level? As an inuslt to your girlfriend? If so, they you have different problems than me my "friend".

Edit: But of course Dissection, I agree with you 100%, and I've realised my mistake.

[Nihilist]

Um. OK, I'll try hammer this into your docile little cerebrum. First off, the irony part. You laughed at me for making a spelling/grammar error. I returned the favour, as it backfired on you as you made an error also. SEE? FUCKING IRONIC? GET IT? Good lord.

[blizzard_beast]

Where exactly?

[PST 88]

Hahahahahahaha. 'I have the right to say things you don't like, but you can't express your dislike! That's just mean!'

Um, anyway: durak bb is Russian, not English. Or at least used to live there. I'm not his biographer. I do, however, have another fun fact about blizzard_beast: he seems to have missed out on the fact that the traditional internet mode of discourse is abuse, and tends to take the traditional mating call of 'You gigantic cuntox' a tad more seriously than it actually is (i.e. as an expression of genuine dislike). This isn't exactly uncommon, but he seems to always take it this way, which leads to stupid shit like this. Don't get offended because people say mean things about you, bb.

Andrew: They live with sheep because they're shepherds. Take a nap before you come online; 'else you get cranky, grumpums.

A final two general points:
1. I don't know how many times I'll have to stress this, but chill out. Deal?
2. There are billions of beautiful women in the world, distributed throughout all regions and ethnic groups. No point in taking a myopic view and depriving yourself of the pleasure of the varieties of beauty by closing an eye to any particular group, or to the great whole in preference of any particular group. This is not an encouragement to go out and fuck a woman from every country and every ethnic group, but if you were on an International Tour of Womanizing you'd at least be a little more relaxed and have less time and inclination to get worked up over the pettiest of petty shit over the internet. Again: I'm not saying do it; just leave it open as a possibility.

[blizzard_beast]

PST 88, I appreciate your intelligent and objective response. I wasn't necessarily offended, I just had the inclination to find out why particular people felt the need to insult me about my opinion, using words which I felt were not made in jest, like racist, bigot, moron etc. I don't believe I usually misenterpret abuse made in jest that we all know and love, but perhaps in this occasion I did.
I don't know.

(And yes, I am Russian and used to live there)