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far_beyond_sane
2001-09-11, 08:44
I saw both of them collapse, live...

Unbelievable. This has to be the single most outrageous act of terrorism EVER.

I'll tell you my theories on the aftermath of this tragedy when it's appropriate. Silence in the rest of my post in respect for the victims and injured, and their families.

Power Groove
2001-09-11, 10:45
Absolutely horrid. I too witnessed the second impact and the collapse of both Twin Towers of the World Trade center. My prayers are with the survivors and the familes of the victims of all the crashes, and I encourage everyone else to do the same.

nomad
2001-09-11, 11:47
i still cannot believe this happened... i cannot imagine how US anti-terror services could allow this...

memnoch
2001-09-11, 12:12
I don't know if they could have prevented this from happening.......how do u stop 2 jetliners from hitting buildings? No one suspected anything or had any hints that this was going to happen.....i'm still having a hard time believing it.....what pisses me off the most is the people in palestinia (whatever) that are laughing at what's happening.

nomad
2001-09-11, 13:00
Originally posted by memnoch
I don't know if they could have prevented this from happening.......how do u stop 2 jetliners from hitting buildings? No one suspected anything or had any hints that this was going to happen.....i'm still having a hard time believing it.....what pisses me off the most is the people in palestinia (whatever) that are laughing at what's happening. look, there were 18 minutes between these two planes... they could at least prevent the second one from crushing into the wtc tower... they KNEW FOR SURE what is gonna happen :(

concerning those ppl laughing... that's understandable, and i wouldn't take it too hard... these ppl live in another country, even in another world, and have another propaganda... mass media can fill your brain with whatever they want nowadays... in every coutry...

nomad
2001-09-11, 13:14
the worst thing that can happen now is a nuclear attack of afghanistan or any other 'heart of terrorists' country by US...

don't blame me but i wouldn't surprise if these air crashes were planned by some US politicians and/or militaries merely to justify the nukes

damn, this world stinks... :( why ppl cannot live without killing each other :mad:

bunny
2001-09-11, 13:18
Originally posted by nomad
concerning those ppl laughing... that's understandable, and i wouldn't take it too hard... these ppl live in another country, even in another world, and have another propaganda... mass media can fill your brain with whatever they want nowadays... in every coutry...

nomadic one is right, as regards with propaganda, we deal with that shit every day living here.... and of course the people who died and the surviors are in my thoughts and prayers, i just heard about it when i got home, just over 2 hrs ago......

makes you relaise how lucky we all are....

buns

Trendkill_420
2001-09-11, 13:53
:(
well once again we have become victims of human nature.
What will result from this is most likely going to be a war. And then, we'll all be fucked. (yes, a bit morbid). This is only the start of some serious shit.
:(
peace
:scatter:

Power Groove
2001-09-11, 14:43
Originally posted by nomad
look, there were 18 minutes between these two planes... they could at least prevent the second one from crushing into the wtc tower... they KNEW FOR SURE what is gonna happen :(

I'm sorry. I don't want to get into a knock-down, drag-out dispute over whether or not this atrocity was preventable, but how on earth could either of these planes be stopped once they were highjacked? Shoot them down over the largest metropolis in the entire US? I've been hearing the same excuses on the news, people trying to somehow blame someone else other than the perpetrators: "Security's too lax, someone knew about it, we should be more prepared, etc..." Obviously there are going to be policy reviews in all aspects of foreign travel and trade, but don't believe the hype, people. It's a known fact that there are those in this world with money, zealous beliefs, charisma, and highly trained and loyal flunkies; the combination of which makes them hard to exterminate and makes them a very dangerous threat (e.g Osama bin Laden). We have done virtually all we can to counter and prevent terroism and still keep an open economy and allow reasonable international travel, but my point is that with sufficient will and resources, terrorists can attack anywhere. The blame belongs in one place alone: those who planned, authorized, and carried out these terrible acts.

"They have awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve."

atifman
2001-09-11, 14:50
Originally posted by memnoch
I don't know if they could have prevented this from happening.......how do u stop 2 jetliners from hitting buildings? No one suspected anything or had any hints that this was going to happen.....i'm still having a hard time believing it.....what pisses me off the most is the people in palestinia (whatever) that are laughing at what's happening.

My sociology teacher tells me that Palestinians are dancing and laughing because you would too if you were in their place. this is to paraphrase what he said,

"how would you like it if you went home today, and realized that your next door neighbor said 'Hey i like your home, i think i'll take it' and did. and you go to your other next-door neighbor and tell him that your house is gone, and he says 'Good, i didn't like you anyway'. That's what position the Palestinians have been in. They were thrust from their homes (i think because of religion)And also, Israel gets ALOT of money from the U.S. A short while ago the U.S gave Israel a F-16 fighter jet. Guess who Israel is gonna use the F-16 on? Palestinians. That's why Palestinians are resentful to Americans and are laughing at the Americans"

By the way, most middle-eastern people think very lowly of Americans. One 'cause of religion, second 'cause they're a little jealous, and also they get tv programs like Jerry Springer over there, and that's buggers up the image of average Americans.

walpurgis
2001-09-11, 15:19
I hate this fucking planet...

:angry: :( :angry:

wannabe
2001-09-11, 15:27
The buzz was over the school in a matter of minutes, I shit you not. Some people had the tv on in the student center and all of sudden people are frenzied. It was pandemonium at my school. All 300 of us. This is most awful news. I just pray for those families and pray that there will be no retaliation. A couple of buddies were saying how they were going to nuke those suckers and I bit their fucking heads off. Keep in mind, they are my freinds. I just let all of them have it, and they shutup. I PRAY we have no nukes b/c there will be ww3 and everyone would be fucked! It would be like us and Germany and Russia against the muslims or palistinians. Crazy Stuff!! It was one of those fucking religious terrorist organizations. The Bosnian girl at my school was telling me about them. I just hope we go through no serious retaliation with them. Innocent lives have already been taken...there needs to be no more! You guys didn't even mention the Pentagon. That shit was taken half out as it is. Also a plane crashed outside of Pitsburgh,....... and the State Government building was hit. There is still one in the air I beleive. It happened at about 9:30 or 10:00 I beleive over here (in the morning). I swear to God, within a couple of hours, the news shot across to the west coast. It was like a shock wave! This is absolute madness! Just pray everyone that nothing serious happens after this tragic event.

memnoch
2001-09-11, 17:15
I know about the pentagon and i think it's awful just as well, it's just the WTC had so many people in and around it that are probably hurt or dead right now.

I know what your teacher meant atifman about their situation, but i still think it's sickening to laugh at so many injured lives. I can't imagine myself laughing at so much pain and suffering.....maybe if the buildings were empty, and they just destroyed it without casualties, then the laughing would be more understandable. But they destroyed so many lives, innocent lives that had nothing to do with what went on 1000's of miles away.
That's what makes me angry.

atifman
2001-09-11, 17:42
Originally posted by memnoch
I know about the pentagon and i think it's awful just as well, it's just the WTC had so many people in and around it that are probably hurt or dead right now.

I know what your teacher meant atifman about their situation, but i still think it's sickening to laugh at so many injured lives. I can't imagine myself laughing at so much pain and suffering.....maybe if the buildings were empty, and they just destroyed it without casualties, then the laughing would be more understandable. But they destroyed so many lives, innocent lives that had nothing to do with what went on 1000's of miles away.
That's what makes me angry.

well shit, do you know what pain and suffering the Palestinians are going through? It's somewhat similar to the Nuremburg Laws in Nazi Germany, Israel is pushing the palestinians around big time, they're treating them like crap. and they hate Americans because the U.S is giving Israel money.


I agree with wannabe (for the first time). I hope the US doesn't do a massive retaliation against who ever did this. actually, if it was Osama Bin Laden, i wouldn't mind, because he's a wacko. But if it's like a whole country or alot of people representing a large powerful group, they probably feel that the US deserves this treatment for some reason, and they're the ones retaliating. they're probably doing this to get attention and maybe start a negotation. if the US retaliated, this would most definitely turn into a war. :behead:


I'm middle-eastern and muslim, and this is my opinion on radical muslim fanatics: God i hate them so fucking much. They're not real muslims, they're fuckin' poser muslims. real muslims would never kill unless they're defending themself. "Oh, we're killing for Allah" - man, they are morons. if they were just terrorists, i wouldn't be so disgusted, but its that they add the "muslim" part that makes my blood boil.:angry:

walpurgis
2001-09-11, 19:05
I still think I'm in shock actually.....but honestly, I've already come to tears and flipped out on things...

A state of confusion for the country, and likewise one for my mind.

This is truly terrible.....

INVERTED
2001-09-11, 20:33
:vampire: The Antichrist is opon us...:vampire:

Prepare for World War III !:kaioken:

memnoch
2001-09-11, 20:54
I agree with Inverted....WW3 is probably on it's way very soon.

And for atifman, no matter how much pain someone is going through, or what they've suffered, if they laugh at another who's in pain or suffering, they're no better. I think the terrorists should have gone for another target instead of so many innocents. Pentagon i can understand.....but not the WTC where so many people go and do a honest's days work like any other person.

atifman
2001-09-11, 21:38
yeah, if i were them, i would've just keyed up the cars in the parking lot. that would've made the point.

INVERTED
2001-09-11, 22:42
Originally posted by memnoch
I agree with Inverted....WW3 is probably on it's way very soon.


There is no question about it! Every Country in the world is already deeply involved.

People have been talking about the end of the world for hundreds of years. It's what most of them live for. They preech about the how the Bible speaks of its forcoming. Day in and day out, they lie in wait for there trasition to the "After life.". Its what they live for and it's them that are going to make it happen!

The so called "Rightious Ones" the "Holy Poeple" the "Poeple of God"

Its these crazy mother fuckers that are making there dreams come true.

It is them that will make all this suffering. Not the "Devil."

FUCK RELIGION!:angry:

6MORBID6ANGEL6
2001-09-11, 23:25
BLAME ALL THIS ON GOD!

memnoch
2001-09-12, 01:16
i don't think we should really blame God.....just mainly the stupid corrupted religions of the world......mainly christianity, which is probably the biggest around the world, and the one with the most corruption and misleads and such.

INVERTED
2001-09-12, 01:40
Originally posted by memnoch
i don't think we should really blame God.....just mainly the stupid corrupted religions of the world......mainly christianity, which is probably the biggest around the world, and the one with the most corruption and misleads and such.

Blame the Muslims and the Jews!


They've always been buchering each other in the name of God!
And now there trying to bucher us too...


:behead: :behead: :behead: :behead: :behead: :behead:

bunny
2001-09-12, 02:41
even though i don't believe in god anymore, i still have my copy of the bible, being brought up in northen ireland, you have this shit drilled into you, a number of years ago, i studied Revelations, and would just like to say, sounds like the second seal has been opened - Revelations, 6 v 3-4, if you want to read it yourself....

bunny

far_beyond_sane
2001-09-12, 09:51
I saw the direct parallel in George Bush's speech

"We will treat those who harboured these terrorists the same as the terrorist themselves" (sic)

That's him adding in a byline for blowing the Taliban sect to absolute hell if they ever go after Bin Laden.

There is no more shock in this heartless age, after the footage of the 767 into the building, after the constant news footage, after our initial shock, only anger. Deep, burning, savage anger. God knows who it's gonna hit. Australia will undoubtably be safe from any atrocities that could possibly be committed but that doesn't change the fact that people are going to die, major-league-style.

far_beyond_sane
2001-09-12, 10:07
Originally posted by INVERTED


Blame the Muslims and the Jews!


They've always been buchering each other in the name of God!
And now there trying to bucher us too...



The Jews are not trying to buTcher you too, you moron.

You live in a Jewish-sympathetic country, your country provides aid, arms and intelligence services to Israel and the Palestinians hate your guts for it.

You stupid comment is the sort of alarmist bullshit that makes my Lebanese friends in the US afraid to be Lebanese because they think people are gonna fuck with them for simply looking vaguely Arabic. Try thinking before you type this sort of shite.

memnoch
2001-09-12, 11:08
I think this is the start of something big, and lots of people will suffer from it all.
Sane, you're kind of lucky being in australia, cause i don't think they'll get involved really. But others in north america (like myself and many others in this forum) will probably be faced with a lot of crap because of what happened yesterday.

DELETE79
2001-09-12, 11:09
THOSE EVENTS SHOWS US HOW LOW AND RIDICULOUS HUMAN BEEING IS.... AT FIRST I FELT VERY CONCERNED BY THIS... OF COURSE THIS IS TERRIBLE MANY PEOPLES DIED (SORRY FOR THE ONES WHO HAVE KNOWN PEOPLES WHO DIED) BUT THIS JUST GONNA MAKE PEOPLES REALIZE HOW STUPID WE ARE AND THAT EVERYTHING CAN HAPPEN ANYTIME ANYWHERE.
EVEN A ALIEN INVASION WOULDN'T SURPRISE ME
SINCE YESTERDAY THE WORLD HAVE CHANGE VERY MUCH AND DON'T WORRY IT IS FOR IS OWN GOOD...WE HAVE REACH THE BOTTOM OF THE PIT AND THE ONLY THING LEFT TO DO IS TO GET OUT TOGETHER (EVERYBODY!!!!!!, BLACK OR WHITE GAY OR LESBIAN, BUDDHISM OR CATHOLIC, ALL DRESSED OR PLAIN I DONT GIVE A SHIT WE HAVE TO LIVE TOGETHER ... ITS GONNA BE VERY LONG THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING.

SOMEONE DID A BIG MISTAKE BY KILLING THOSE INNOCENT (AND I HOPE HE OR THEY WILL BE TORTURED SLOWLY....
VERY S-L-O-W-L-Y) ..... BUT THIS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS, PALESTINIANS, RACES OR RELIGIONS.... THIS IS HUMAN BEEING FAULT

FROM NOW ON RAMBO ISN'T THAT VIOLENT FOR
A 5 YEARS OLD KID

SLAYER NEW ALBUM FUCKIN ROCK

Disciple
2001-09-12, 12:03
Originally posted by 6MORBID6ANGEL6
BLAME ALL THIS ON GOD!

Blame it on religion. We all know that there is no such thing as god ,religion is the cause of all this shit.

On the Palestina laughing people: I think the majority of the Palestina people is as shocked as most of us. Those laughing on those streets were just dumbfucks with too much time on their hands. The media filmed them because they knew Americans would be shocked by seeing it.

A war? I hope NOT. Let's face it: estimated victims could be around 60.000... That's an AWFULL lot. There have been wars fought over far minor conflicts. BUT they still don't know who's responsable for the terrorism acts.
It's both brilliant and stupid at once.
Brilliant: exceptional damage has been done in the heart of America with minimal loss of own military and no clues at who has done it.
Stupid: In order for the brilliance to remain , the executing power must remain anynomous and doing so the world will maybe never know WHY they did it or what ideology they want to promote.

I'm sure Bush,the FBI and the rest are experiencing severe pressure right now. They just HAVE to find out who did this. The public won't accept no shit this time. This means that if they continue having no clues they may well just look for the guys who are most probably implicated in this and leave the real authors enjoying from their victory.

atifman
2001-09-12, 14:50
what's really pissing me off is that stupid-ass white guys are beating up anybody in schools that looks remotely middle-eastern. i heard that a couple of kids got beat up yesterday and today, and they didn't have anything to do with anything. look at it this way, if Vietnam was suspected of this heinous act, those stupid-ass white guys would go around beating people up that are oriental. it's so retarded. I wouldn't be as outraged if they were beating up Palestinians or Afghanis (i'd still be mad 'cause they don't deserve it), but they're just beating up people that are middle-eastern, it's appalling how ignorant people are.


and they're probably will be a war over this. most fingers are pointing to Osama bin Laden, who's hiding out in Afghanistan. like sane said from Bush's speech:
"We will treat those who harboured these terrorists the same as the terrorist themselves" (sic)
they're gonna attack Afghanistan (if you didn't know by they way, Afghanistan is sanctioning bin Laden, and a bunch of people support bin Laden and his ideals) or at least piss them off. and guess who's friends with Afghanistan. Russia. it's gonna have a ripple effect and more and more countries are gonna get involved, turning this into a World War.

INVERTED
2001-09-12, 16:10
Originally posted by far_beyond_sane


The Jews are not trying to buTcher you too, you moron.

You live in a Jewish-sympathetic country, your country provides aid, arms and intelligence services to Israel and the Palestinians hate your guts for it.

You stupid comment is the sort of alarmist bullshit that makes my Lebanese friends in the US afraid to be Lebanese because they think people are gonna fuck with them for simply looking vaguely Arabic. Try thinking before you type this sort of shite.

Look, first off I'm not a racist and I dont hate anybody. My coworkers are mosty Afghans and Jews and they all share the same opinion as me. Why? Becase they live in the U.S.A! They realize the religious bullshit thats going on in there homelands and they came here as refugies.

Only "Ignorance" would cease to realize whats going on here. We got fucked because we took side with the Jews. We are trying to get involsd with there mess and now we're paying the price.

This is a War between the Palestinians and the Jews. And its a War between the tecnical deferances of there religion. The U.S slould of minded its own business.

Mabey now you'll realize what I was trying to say?

Sorry if I may have offended anyone. I just speak my mind, just like Atifman making referances towrd "Stupid ass white guys".

I'm white and I dont care because he's right!

Peace!:stoned:

Power Groove
2001-09-12, 16:13
If this ever came to world war (which I think has about a .0000001% chance), it would be the most lop-sided world war in history. The astounding majority of the international community is on our side, for obvious reasons.

And another thing. All this talk about how mankind is rotten and it's humanity's fault is bullshit. No one talks like that until something bad happens. By and large, mankind is benevolent. You can give me all the examples of people being rotten to each other you want, and I won't deny that some people choose an evil path, but for every one of those, I can give you ten times as many cases of people helping and caring for each other. For instance, a relatively small number of people caused the violence and destruction in NY, DC, and PA. But look at how those respective communities rallied to search for survivors, give blood, and volunteer in countless other ways to help the survivors and victims' families.

memnoch
2001-09-12, 16:55
I agree with Atifman....stupid ass whilte guys shouldn't be going around beating people up for being middle-easterners or anything, they weren't the ones who went and killed everyone...all they do is live their lives just like the white boys, they just come from a different place, and because of their race, the white boys accuse them.
I'm white.....and i live in canada, and even though it didn't happen over here, apparently there's already people having fights with arabs and other races because of this, and those in arab and palestinian embassies around here are fearing for their lives. It's gonna be fools like those white boys who just want fucking revenge and death to those people.....i think they could probably all settle this around a discussion table, if they at least tried, without going into war. But, with the world today, that's not gonna happen.

far_beyond_sane
2001-09-12, 20:18
Originally posted by Power Groove
If this ever came to world war (which I think has about a .0000001% chance), it would be the most lop-sided world war in history. The astounding majority of the international community is on our side, for obvious reasons.



Ehud Barak's answer to the problem of retribution was simple - "We take the US, the UK, Russia and the EU and we find these people and fucking flatten them!" (I'm paraphrasing of course)

(Barak isn't exactly wetting himself because the chances are any retribution involves a lot of dead Islamic people, and a massive tidal wave of anti-Arab sentiment from around the worl, in democratic countries where the populous was previously REASONABLY neutral. Arabic hate-crime has already started perpetrated by those Americans who think that painting over signs written in Arabic outside language schools will deter terrorists)

Even in Brisbane on Australia's Sunshine Coast, up north where Modo lives, people are throwing bottles at and breaking windows in school buses of Islamic children. Some people are just cunts, everywhere.

...And just a tail-ender:
Like I said before, it was reported today that the Taliban were now in line for a severe fucking-up if this is the work of Bin Laden and they don't extradite him, and that was the most considered line of Bush's initial address. f_b_s, ahead of that papers as per usual (how's that arrogance now Modo?)

wannabe
2001-09-12, 21:46
OK! There is not going to be a world war three, so you fuckers just shut your yappers! Are you actually trying to to cuase more chaos. And enough of the devil worshipers here "blaming it on God". Ignorant people please shut up now! It is not a war between the religions per say...it's the land base issue. Ever since WW2, we have been in the middle east. After that, the jews were sent to Israel for freedom from religious and racial persecution from Hitler (dirty fucker!). The Palestinians didn't like that at all. They have been wanting that land back ever since then, guys. Since we have distributed money in this area and supported the jews here, we haven't been praised too much by the Palistinians. That group was a religious extremist terrorist organization. Just like the Christian extremists who blow up buildings for "the name of God". Horseshite if I may add. It's bullshit. They are just crazy fuckers! Their religious leaders don't support this at all!

far_beyond_sane
2001-09-12, 21:59
Religous extremists are the same everywhere, all that changes what they do is the way they're socialised. Like the american lifer group that says "If you're not in jail for trying to stop abortions, then you should be killed." That's where that dude who killed the abortion doctors came from. Same loonies, different smell.

I was talking with Rob about this earlier. WW3 is not an option. War: maybe (dependent on definition), world war: no chance.

Another good point - this has nothing to do with mainstream Islam. But I hoped people would have assumed that.

INVERTED
2001-09-12, 23:01
Originally posted by wannabe
OK! There is not going to be a world war three, so you fuckers just shut your yappers! Are you actually trying to to cuase more chaos. And enough of the devil worshipers here "blaming it on God". Ignorant people please shut up now!

Sorry bro, But the truth hurts. Its going to be the poeple that are stuck off in La La Land the are gonna suffer the most .

All I'm trying to say is be prepared and don't get cought off guard!

I didn't mean to strike fear into your heart.:rolleyes:

So calm down. Just prepare for the worst...

Or just kill yourself right now. Your be one less motherfucker to kill. (JUST KIDDING! THATS SOME LYRIC FROM A OLD S.F.U. SONG!:p

2001-09-13, 03:11
hey man it realy sux if we do go to war but hey im on americas side (i a'nt stupid) i say.....

:vampire: NUKE AFGANISTAN:vampire:

nomad
2001-09-13, 09:44
Originally posted by Spike
hey man it realy sux if we do go to war but hey im on americas side (i a'nt stupid) i say.....

:vampire: NUKE AFGANISTAN:vampire: i only hope those who has the power to start this shit is NOT AS STUPID as you are :(

why some ppl think that killing other innocents can help those who are dead, or prove something????!!!! :(

bunny
2001-09-13, 11:36
Originally posted by nomad
why some ppl think that killing other innocents can help those who are dead, or prove something????!!!! :( [/B]

good point nomadic one.......now if only people can learn that....

wannabe
2001-09-13, 17:29
Originally posted by nomad
i only hope those who has the power to start this shit is NOT AS STUPID as you are :(

why some ppl think that killing other innocents can help those who are dead, or prove something????!!!! :(

Yeah, thanku. If you want to nuke, there will be WW3. WE dont want that! Besides, everyone is pissed at the muslims anywho. It would be everyone against them. But we don't need anymore casualty.

Inverted...there will be no war. That's an obsurd exageration. Unfortunately, I'm afraid something will be done in retaliation. Otherwise, how would that make us look, ya know? Hopefully we will identify the people eho harboured these imbeciles and take care of them and that be it. Cuase those assnuts are still out there. It was huge mastermind and there's more, rest assure.

Peace it......

Metal Phreak
2001-09-14, 00:09
Hmmmmmmm. This is all very exciting. What worries me most is that everyone was making jokes about how dumb George W is, and now he's the guy with ghis finger on the button. I can't help but feel that we're all screwed. NAh, I don't think this is the end of the world. THis is just the beginning.
Oh yeah, I agree with Power Groove. The majority of the human race is benevolent rather than malevolent. It's only when ppl join in masses that everyone seems to go nuts.
I'm just glad I live in the best country in the world.

far_beyond_sane
2001-09-14, 05:14
Originally posted by Metal Phreak

I'm just glad I live in the best country in the world.

FUCKING A FUCKING A FUCKING A

...All we have to fear is poor people in boats :(

walpurgis
2001-09-14, 13:35
Yeah but at least we won't be overtaken by a group of intellectually superior marsupials :p

Katham
2001-09-15, 08:38
I were too lazy to read the whole thread, so sorry if I say something, what others also did.

- There wouldn't be a third world war, for two reasons - Afganistan did "surrender". Afganistan hasn't got any allied countries, soo... basicly America won't do anything with that place.

- That 30,000 death rate is used for a commercial, so the mercurial TVs are used that number to get money.

- If I could wish something, I'd wish, that those fuckheads would been died, who were celebrating innocent's death, not those, who were working, and been proper citizen.

INVERTED
2001-09-15, 23:34
Sodom Insane from Iraq threatends to retaliate if U.S attacks Afgahnistam! :vampire:

far_beyond_sane
2001-09-15, 23:37
Shit, he did? Bah. And pah.

Unless he wants another Gulf Way his supposed retaliation will be entirely nodescript. A pure propaganda statement.

6MORBID6ANGEL6
2001-09-15, 23:41
hussien should shut his fucking pussy lips dude,he will get fucked if he even trys to make a move on the us....again.

far_beyond_sane
2001-09-15, 23:52
yeah, well you really taught him last time didn't "you"? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Katham
2001-09-16, 05:25
Morning news said, that Afganistan denied to hand over Osama to the US, and they started the negotiation with they adjoining countries, to give rise to a union.

Scary, huh?

So there might be a World War III...

Fuck... :(

2001-09-16, 14:12
dude i hope not they say the next world war will last half an hour (the time it will take for the nukes to hit) then the hole world will be doomed :( :bawling: :bawling: :(

atifman
2001-09-17, 16:37
I'm for any type of retaliation as long it does hurt innocent people.

and is anybody as pissed as off as I am about TV covering this tragedy 24/7? yeah i do care about the tragedy, but there's so much of the stuff i can watch with out getting bored. and they say the same stuff over and over every 10 minutes. and they have it on like every channel. they should only have it on like a couple channels.

PST 88
2001-09-17, 18:13
I've got a lot to say, but right now my comp's continuously blinking out on me(it's why I couldnt post earlier), so I'll try to keep this brief.

World War 3: Um, how? America's maybe the only remaining super power, and we can basically count on just about every other near super power to support us. Afghanastan's a country that has to fight with itself to exist each day, and it can only rely on other Muslim fundamentalist countries, which, thankfully, are few in number and in power. Now, we are gonna have a pain in the ass going through Afghanastan to find and obviously fairly elusive and genius bin Ladin without much or any government help, but if there's gonna be a country to make a stand against us, it wont be Afghanastan. The only neighbouring country I know of that would help them is Iran, incidentally where Muslim fundamentalism started in resentment of U.S. rule(yeah, people in the Middle East hate us for many reasons, not just Israel, check your history books people), seeing as Pakistan, the only other fairly radical Muslim government neighbouring Afghanastan, has already agreed to help us. So, in short, World War 3 isnt likely.

Arab hate crimes: Retarded. That's about all I think has to be said. Any moron who cant tell the difference between an every-day Muslim and a Muslim fundamentalist maybe shouldnt be free to go around beating people. Plus, if you really wanna kill Arabs so badly, why dont you just join the Army? I'm sure we'll be in there soon. Course, most of these dudes'd be a little to scared to fight when there's a chance of getting hit back.

Nuking Afghanastan: The only sure-fire way to turn all the world opinion we have in our favour now AGAINST us, so probably a stupid option.

Osama bin Ladin: Obviously a wasted genius. Man, this guy is so diabolically clever it's almost scarier than what he's done. I mean, look at what he's done in the past year: Dissapeared from US and Israeli intelligence, orchestrated and planned out a mind-boggling attack, assasinated the head of opposition to the Taliban right before America would need him the most, and probably planned his response to our retaliation already. The guy's smart, plus he has CIA training and the most diehard resolve imaginable. Really, really fucking scary.

TV coverage: atifman, I agree. America has to learn to go back to our regular lives, and that includes programming and all. I dont think everyone needs to see the towers collapse and footage of bin Ladin every five to ten minutes.

Anyway, I just wanna say I disagree with, and am sorta sick of, people who think we shouldnt retaliate for this. Especially those who say it'll start World War III, even if they're just quoting Nostradamus. If we dont retaliate, we'll get riskier attacks, and retaliating wont get any more attacks on us than there already is. People may not know this, but we're constantly under attack by things with the potential of being this tragedy; they just usually catch them. The only good argument to non-retaliation is that we'll inevitably kill innocent Afghan's, which is wrong, but unfortunately a necessary part of war. But, to review: retaliating will not get us under more attack, cause we're already under a fair amount that just luckily get's stopped, and WWIII wont be happening unless Afghanastan suddenly gets NATO, most of Europe, Israel, Australia, and even Russia on THEIR side, which might happen if we act retarded and drop the A-bomb.

Also, I just put in Australia to point out that Australia's mutual defense agreement with us puts them in this too, so Jim might not be as lucky as he thinks.

Plus, apparantly I went on longer than I planned to, I guess I'm not blinking out. And anyone who wants me to explain any references I made to US's pissing off of the middle east or thwarted terrorist attacks on this country, just post and ask.

Power Groove
2001-09-17, 21:09
FYI everyone: That email thing about Nostradamus' prediction was a hoax. If you noticed how shitty the grammar, spelling, and punctuation was, you're probably not surprised.

Disciple
2001-09-18, 12:20
Originally posted by PST 88
World War 3: Um, how? America's maybe the only remaining super power, and we can basically count on just about every other near super power to support us. Afghanastan's a country that has to fight with itself to exist each day, and it can only rely on other Muslim fundamentalist countries, which, thankfully, are few in number and in power. Now, we are gonna have a pain in the ass going through Afghanastan to find and obviously fairly elusive and genius bin Ladin without much or any government help, but if there's gonna be a country to make a stand against us, it wont be Afghanastan.

I understand your point but today's wars aren't won based on the number of soldiers you can send.
It is a poor country but I understand that they're not so easily beaten as you might think. I believe Russia got their asses kicked a bunch of years ago.
Also : if they got nothing ,that makes them even more dangerous and hard to fight. If you got nothing ,you got nothing to lose.
I understand that even Afghanistan has its own set of nukes.

bunny
2001-09-18, 18:22
one word of warning.....don't listen to everything you hear on the news....the media has a great history of being involved in mass propaganda, and most people like sheepie that we are, take it all in....and believe every single word of it....but hey that's not just my thoughts about the media...it's what i've grown up with....and the media in one country is the same as in any other country....
soul-sucking, pieces of shit...(imho)

bunny

walpurgis
2001-09-18, 19:17
This has nothing to do with the topic, but could you not write in that font, bunny? It's really hell on the eyes.

bunny
2001-09-18, 19:26
Originally posted by walpurgis
This has nothing to do with the topic, but could you not write in that font, bunny? It's really hell on the eyes.

font changed....and what you mean it has nothing to do with the topic?? it has EVERYTHING 2 do with it...imho

bunny

walpurgis
2001-09-18, 19:31
*laughs*
You say IMHO a lot...

I wasn't meaning that your post had nothing to do with it, I was talking about the post I'd made about the font color.

bunny
2001-09-18, 19:37
Originally posted by walpurgis
*laughs*
You say IMHO a lot...

I wasn't meaning that your post had nothing to do with it, I was talking about the post I'd made about the font color.

you did?? ah well....must have been the way you worded it or something....anyway i'm heading to bed...being up for 16hrs really fucks your head up......nite nite.....

bunsxxx

memnoch
2001-09-18, 19:42
what the hell does IMHO mean anyways???:confused: :rolleyes: :confused:

walpurgis
2001-09-18, 19:46
In My Honest (or possibly Humble) Opinion.

PST 88
2001-09-18, 20:29
In response to that thing about Afghanastan, way back before we had the great font argument, I have to say this:

Firstly, I wasnt aware Afghanastan had nukes, but I have little reason to believe they dont any more than to believe that they do.

Secondly, Russia had trouble in Afghanastan because it attacked there during the Cold War, when a little organization known as the CIA had to respond to everything Russia did, and decided it would be a good idea to train Muslim fundamentalists to fight the Russians. Little did we know that these same people we gave training to would soon make up the majority of bin Ladin's terrorist organization, including Osama himself.

Thirdly, Afghanastan could be easier than it seems for the reason that they're in the middle of a civil war. If we go in on a very focused, specific mission, not taking sides in the war as we did when we made a mistake in Southeast Asia, I think the Taliban would have some trouble fighting of both the now somewhat disorganized rebellious factors(they were going fairly strong, until two assasins posing as reporters carried a bomb right into the same room as the unifying part of this coallition, not to mention it's resident military genius, strangely enough a mere two days before the planes hit the WTC towers) and a military which has a fairly good track record, at home and on the road, especially when it feels strongly about something. And especially when all the surrounding countries are either sympathetic but with closed boarders or against them. Course, I might be proven wrong and have to eat my words.

But I still think that they need to be unified with one large country that can really make a good stand for it to go to a world war like people seem to think, and I, at this moment and admittedly not a genius on foreign politics, dont really see that happening.

Oh, and the nostradomus thing, a friend of mine knew that quote from before, he didnt see it online. But the date they have online's ridiculous, I'm pretty sure he was dead when he's claimed to have said that.

And I have nothing to say about media progaganda because I very little about it.

INVERTED
2001-09-18, 23:34
PST 88 you're to politicaly correct. Are you sure you did'nt go to Standford or somthing?

You sould write a documentry on Bin Laden.:D

bunny
2001-09-19, 08:08
IMHO - In My Humble Opinion

far_beyond_sane
2001-09-19, 09:01
Originally posted by PST 88
In response to that thing about Afghanastan, way back before we had the great font argument, I have to say this:

Firstly, I wasnt aware Afghanastan had nukes, but I have little reason to believe they dont any more than to believe that they do.

Secondly, Russia had trouble in Afghanastan because it attacked there during the Cold War, when a little organization known as the CIA had to respond to everything Russia did, and decided it would be a good idea to train Muslim fundamentalists to fight the Russians. Little did we know that these same people we gave training to would soon make up the majority of bin Ladin's terrorist organization, including Osama himself.

Thirdly, Afghanastan could be easier than it seems for the reason that they're in the middle of a civil war. If we go in on a very focused, specific mission, not taking sides in the war as we did when we made a mistake in Southeast Asia, I think the Taliban would have some trouble fighting of both the now somewhat disorganized rebellious factors(they were going fairly strong, until two assasins posing as reporters carried a bomb right into the same room as the unifying part of this coallition, not to mention it's resident military genius, strangely enough a mere two days before the planes hit the WTC towers) and a military which has a fairly good track record, at home and on the road, especially when it feels strongly about something. And especially when all the surrounding countries are either sympathetic but with closed boarders or against them. Course, I might be proven wrong and have to eat my words.

But I still think that they need to be unified with one large country that can really make a good stand for it to go to a world war like people seem to think, and I, at this moment and admittedly not a genius on foreign politics, dont really see that happening.

Oh, and the nostradomus thing, a friend of mine knew that quote from before, he didnt see it online. But the date they have online's ridiculous, I'm pretty sure he was dead when he's claimed to have said that.

And I have nothing to say about media progaganda because I very little about it.

The US funded and trained the Mujihadeen to take over Afghanistan, and the Taliban to take over from the Mujihadeen. Kinky eh?

that Nostradamus prophecy is totally false. not only was he dead for 40 years in the year he was quoted but the whole prophecy is totally bullshit. check out www.snopes.com to see the riddle busted like the bitch it is.

bunny
2001-09-19, 11:20
Got this in my mail...thought you may be interested in seeing it...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11

September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11

After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the
year.

119 is the area code to Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11

Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11.

The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11.

I have MORE...

State of New York - The 11 State added to the Union

New York City - 11 Letters

Afghanistan - 11 Letters

The Pentagon - 11 Letters

Ramzi Yousef - 11 Letters (convicted or orchestrating the attack
on the WRC in 1993)

Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11

Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11


~~~~~~~~~~~

i've some more to add to that...

numerology teaches us this about the number 11...

number 11 or number of truth
it is the number of maturity, lucidity, tenacity and serneity, for it indicates the longing to understand, know, experiment, penetrate, reveal and find the truth. It reinforces the logical mind and the ability to judge, severity, authority, strictness to the detriment of sensitivity, imagination and fantasty. It is also a 'master number', which means its more significant that the other numbers associated with numerology...

bunny

P.S. i'll edit this later...dinner is on the table

2001-09-19, 14:39
:eek: WOW :eek:

that is very deep were the hell did you get that its freaky:eek:

bunny
2001-09-19, 14:50
yeah i know it's freaky....got in my in-box

2001-09-19, 14:53
i wonder who found all that out in the first place

it makes you think don't it :confused: :idea:

bunny
2001-09-19, 14:58
Originally posted by Spike
i wonder who found all that out in the first place

that my friend will be lost in the "fw" (forwards) of the space-time continumun thingy that is e-mails...

Originally posted by Spike
it makes you think don't it :confused: :idea:

yes, it does.....

buns xxx

Katham
2001-09-21, 08:48
Interesting stuff, Bunny...

We should read if Nosferatu did mention that 11 in his poetries. :rolleyes:

atifman
2001-09-21, 14:24
Originally posted by far_beyond_sane


The US funded and trained the Mujihadeen to take over Afghanistan, and the Taliban to take over from the Mujihadeen. Kinky eh?

that Nostradamus prophecy is totally false. not only was he dead for 40 years in the year he was quoted but the whole prophecy is totally bullshit. check out www.snopes.com to see the riddle busted like the bitch it is.

it also claims that the footage of Palestinians dancing is not because of the WTC tragedy, it was because of the invasion of Kuwait. interesting stuff.

PST 88
2001-09-21, 16:48
I'm too young to have gone to Stanford, but I was born there while my father taught there and my mother went to law classes there.

Also, I sorta figured the Nostradamus thing wasnt right, it's what I thought first, but there're some friends who say things and you know you should listen, so I did.

Finally, I dont know much about numerology, so knew none of that about the number 11. But I'd say it might just be a random association, just like the association that the attack occured three months almost to the minute after Timothy McVeigh was executed. The most likely one was that an associate of bin Ladin's was to be tried on Sept. 12th in a courthouse which probably is no longer standing, which was across the street from one of the towers.

Also, just to interject a random thing or two. Did anyone hear how China found out about this? It was trinkled down from up top that America had been attacked, but only after we had first randomly and without reason attacked somewhere non-specific in the Middle East. Guess they dont want much sympathy for the US, despite declaring to be on our side. Also, three years ago the French government intercepted an attempt by bin Ladin to have a plane flown into the Eiffel tower. Just some fun factoids everyone would wanna know.

And I really dont blame the Palestinians for dancing and celebrating, even if it was about the WTC, just for the fact that I know there'll be at least that many Americans happy if we do something like kill bin Ladin or bomb the hell out of Afghanastan. I'm more pissed about what Saddam Hussein said in reaction, about us getting what we've been giving. Even if he's right, it's about 30 years too late and from the wrong part of the world, so he should probably just shut the fuck up and try not to piss us off, just sit and rejoice privately or something, maybe fall to his knees and thank Allah like bin Ladin did.

Okay, one last random thing: did anyone hear what Jerry Falwell had to say. I can expect and accept that some countries, especially those lead by a bastardization of the Muslim faith, would think we deserved what we got, but I never, ever thought we'd have white Christian Americans thinking the same thing. Basically, he said we deserved it for phasing religion out of much of public life and education. A bunch of other fairly extreme fucked up tv Christian-bastardizers said basically the same thing. From them, to be American and blame America, saying that what happened was the hand of God distributing retribution to us, is really fucked. I'd have thought they'd at least call it as bad as everyone else, if only because it was done by a group of people who couldnt make it into Bob Jones University or fit within the very stringent limits of Christian fundamentalism. If I cant expect ignorant rednecks like them to be racist enough to quit blaming American society for everything that happens, than what the fuck can I count on?

far_beyond_sane
2001-09-22, 00:00
Oh, dancing and celebrating were they? Well even that fact may be in contention...

http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=63288

"Newswire

There's an important point in the power of press, specifically the power of
CNN.
All around the world we are subjected to 3 or 4 huge news distributors, and
one
of them - as you well know - is CNN. Very well, I guess all of you have been
seeing (just as I've been) images from this company. In particular, one set
of
images called my attencion: the Palestinians celebrating the bombing, out on
the streets, eating some cake and
making funny faces for the camera.

Well, THOSE IMAGES WERE SHOT BACK IN 1991!!! Those are images of
Palestinians
celebrating the invasion of Kuwait! It's simply unacceptable that a
super-power
of comminications as CNN uses images which do not correspond to the reality
in
talking about so serious an issue.

A teacher of mine, here in Brazil, has videotapes recorded in 1991, with the
very same images; he's been sending emails to CNN, Globo (the major TV
network
in Brazil) and newspapers, denouncing what I myself classify as a crime
against
the public opinion. If anyone of you has access to this kind of files, serch
for it. In the meanwhile, I'll try to 'put my hands' on a copy of this tape.

But now, think for a moment about the impact of such images. Your people is
hurt, emotionally fragile, and this kind broadcast have very high
possibility
of causing waves of anger and rage against Palestinians.
It's simply irresponsible to show images such as those.

Finally, I'd like to say that we all regret and condemn all that has
happened
in the last days; but Nikos has a point here. I really don't want to be
misunderstood here, but the truth is that US government had shown no respect
for other countries in the last decades. In the 60s and 70s they had halped
lots of military coups throughout the world
(including Brazil in 64). Later, with Reagan and Bush Father, the Washington
Consensus have been demolishing the bases of our economies, making us more
and
more dependant (and, many of us, prehocupied with this situation).

Your current president quickly made things worse: Kyoto Protocol, Star Wars,
the exchange of rain forest for pieces of external debt, that abandonment of
the position of third party in negotiations between IRAK and England, and
between Palestinians and Israel. All those mistakes in US external politics
made your country more hatred than before, and, of
course, more vulnerable.

Listen, I'm NOT justifying the terrorist actions that took place in your
country; but it seems to me that, if your leaders had come along another
path
of thoughts and actions, you wouldn't be suffering what you are now.

Best regards, and the hope that everything is resolved for the best of all
of
us.

Mauricio A. V. Carvalho
State University of Campinas - Brazil"


To sum up, DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THEY TELL YOU.

PST 88
2001-09-23, 22:47
That earlier link you gave us, snopes or whatever, said it was a falsitude, Jim. Plus, I just said they were dancing and celebrating. I didnt say I knew when or what for, it was just in response to what atifman had just said. If this's right, I dont care much, personally, though it's definitely an injustice to Palestinians, cause I wasnt angry at all seeing that, and knowing it's for a different reason than I had first heard doesnt make me feel any differently towards the Palestinians.

And yeah, it may be our fault for getting these guy's opinions against us, but that started about fifty years ago in the middle east with us taking over Iran and backing Israel, and it's been flaring up for almost thirty years now, with bin Ladin himself posing a threat of some sort for about ten years in some way shape or form, so I dont think that the most recent actions of our government set this off. A few very probably boneheaded decisions cant be the only source of blame for forty to fifty years of building resentment. I think very little we've done in the last decade could affect the buildup to what happened recently, and I think that a guy with such an obvious grasp of international politics, especially in how they relate to the United States, shouldnt be overlooking the fact that our involvement in the Middle East and Muslim fundamentalism have always been inexorably linked and that something George W decided to do would not change that. Especially considering that this attack must have taken long enough to plan that it was started before he was in office, plus earlier attacks by bin Ladin, or, fuck it, any other fundamentalist terrorist, had occured well before our policies were changed by our current much-maligned president.

atifman
2001-10-12, 16:12
so they're bombing them (Afghanistan) now eh......whaddaya think?

memnoch
2001-10-12, 16:52
Go for it......we can't let the terrorists run around and kill anyone they want, can we? I think what's going on now is fine considering the situation and what's happened. I think as long as they keep the terrorists as their only target, then things should be ok.......unless some countries step in to defend the terrorists, but i think that'd be stupid with a large group of countries ready to back up the US.

walpurgis
2001-10-12, 19:55
Yeah, I can't say that bombing the terrorists is bothering me much, I'm basically for it, but have about the same feelings as memnoch as far as other countries getting involved...

far_beyond_sane
2001-10-12, 20:31
Still think it's real.

The early reports that there were street presentations in Palestine were shown on CNN with footage from the Gulf War. I've seen it confirmed in several places. Newsmedia people have an "understanding" about new which specifically concern them - so it makes sense that it never got released to the wire services if it DID happen.

But snopes sez? This I must see. Back soon.

far_beyond_sane
2001-10-12, 20:39
Bugger me. Snopes is all over this one like white on rice. Turns out I'm wrong.

No-one denies they were celebrating, the whole point was proving they could fuck with us any time they want to, those evil CNN people... guess I'd have to find another example... shouldn't be hard! :)

All the liberal philosophy in the world will not change the fact that
1) They declared WAR on white people
2) Their idea of war involves people getting very dead

So it's war. War involves goodies killing baddies. It's just HOW that we have to worry about.

6MORBID6ANGEL6
2001-10-12, 23:23
goddamn,people are still bitching about that?
its over,jesus christ.....
they fucked us,we fuck them,and its over.
and dont start bitching and whining at me because im not crying with you all.

memnoch
2001-10-12, 23:27
Originally posted by 6MORBID6ANGEL6
goddamn,people are still bitching about that?
its over,jesus christ.....
they fucked us,we fuck them,and its over.
and dont start bitching and whining at me because im not crying with you all.

What the fuck man??
Dude, he like totally asked us a question, so we fucking totally answered his question fuck. No one's crying jesus christ. So stop bitching about shit you don't understand man. Fuck! Now don't start yelling at me with your whining fuck!

far_beyond_sane
2001-10-12, 23:37
Originally posted by 6MORBID6ANGEL6
goddamn,people are still bitching about that?
its over,jesus christ.....
they fucked us,we fuck them,and its over.
and dont start bitching and whining at me because im not crying with you all.

Shut up and never say anything ever again, you boring stupid little boy.

walpurgis
2001-10-12, 23:39
Stick with this 6Morbid, if you don't want to hear people "bitching" about something, don't read the fucking thread.

6MORBID6ANGEL6
2001-10-13, 17:48
i dont read the threads,i randomly post shit.
and i will talk,and im not a boy,so,there you go.
i know everyone hates me,but oh well,nothing will happen.

far_beyond_sane
2001-10-14, 02:41
Originally posted by 6MORBID6ANGEL6
i dont read the threads,i randomly post shit.
and i will talk,and im not a boy,so,there you go.
i know everyone hates me,but oh well,nothing will happen.

You're a girl???????

Katham
2001-10-14, 05:45
ROFLMAO

memnoch
2001-10-14, 11:13
Originally posted by far_beyond_sane


You're a girl???????

LOL!!:p :D

6MORBID6ANGEL6
2001-10-14, 11:21
yes,im a girl.....never talked with one before?

Father Death
2001-10-14, 13:38
LOL!! oh fuck, i almost just fell off my fucking chair...aaahhh yea, thats good stuff! oh shit, i gotta wipe a tear outta my eye now :smash:

walpurgis
2001-10-14, 14:24
Well, if you're a girl, that explains the never-ending bitch & moan syndrome. That's really too bad that you're always PMSing though, you must go through more eggs than most breakfast restaurants.

(A little sidenote, no offence intended to any ACTUAL women here at the forums :))

6MORBID6ANGEL6
2001-10-14, 20:03
whatever,your words mean nothing,stop trying so hard..

walpurgis
2001-10-14, 20:12
I'm not trying at all, my friend. :)

Power Groove
2001-10-14, 20:22
That just blew my mind. 6Morbid, you are now officially the most combative, belligerent, ill-tempered, malicious, malevolent, and downright unpleasant female I have ever encountered. Congratulations!

It's amazing because your general bad attitude towards everyone and everything screams "frustrated, aggressive adolescent male!"

Just when I think I got everything figgered out...

far_beyond_sane
2001-10-15, 06:15
Originally posted by 6MORBID6ANGEL6
whatever,your words mean nothing,stop trying so hard..

Shit yeah!

I always figured because you're a bitchy whiny little ball-deprived fucker that you were a teenage guy.

But I know why you're ball-deprived now... BECAUSE YOU'RE A WOMAN! Well, girl, really.

Damn, of all the things... That's a REAL turn-up for the books!
Would you other guys have suspected??? This is incredible. Like the time I thought that female bodybuilder was a guy.

memnoch
2001-10-15, 10:29
Originally posted by far_beyond_sane
Would you other guys have suspected??? This is incredible. Like the time I thought that female bodybuilder was a guy.

I did suspect something was odd about her cause she never stops complaining about everything going on in the forums. Just like your typical female i guess. (no offense to any others)

Father Death
2001-10-15, 11:37
oh no, she's the typical female, just +10 times or so...man, how bout that eh, totally explains EVERYTHING!

memnoch
2001-10-15, 12:01
Originally posted by Father Death
oh no, she's the typical female, just +10 times or so...man, how bout that eh, totally explains EVERYTHING!

It sure does. :)

Kiniric
2001-10-15, 12:43
ummm.....hahaha

atifman
2001-10-15, 15:34
Originally posted by far_beyond_sane
Like the time I thought that female bodybuilder was a guy.

aw man, female bodybuilders have got to be unsexiest creatures on earth. totally nasty.


anyway, back to the topic, why isn't Bush giving the evidence to Afghanistan that bin Laden did the attacks? is it because he doesn't have any? if he does, i think it's moderately stupid that he's not giving them the evidence.

Kiniric
2001-10-15, 18:01
Well I've heard we've been finding anthrax around here in the US. Like in boston and new york subways.

I refuse to post any personal views as I was banned for displaying them last time.

6MORBID6ANGEL6
2001-10-15, 18:21
i hope everyone dies of anthrax in new york,no one cares.

walpurgis
2001-10-15, 19:32
You really enjoy being such a cocksucker, don't you?

memnoch
2001-10-15, 19:53
Originally posted by atifman
anyway, back to the topic, why isn't Bush giving the evidence to Afghanistan that bin Laden did the attacks? is it because he doesn't have any? if he does, i think it's moderately stupid that he's not giving them the evidence.

I think one of the main reasons why he isn't handing over the evidence is because Afganistan is harbouring Bin Laden.....he's behind all of this that's going on, but Afg. is still holding him there without handing him over. You'd think that a country would hand over an international terrorist after he's killed 1000's of people in another country, but they haven't. So Bush refuses to compromise with them. If they don't hand him over, then kill him in the country he's currently in.

far_beyond_sane
2001-10-16, 04:19
Originally posted by 6MORBID6ANGEL6
i hope everyone dies of anthrax in new york,no one cares.

SHUSH, WOMAN!

Kiniric
2001-10-16, 08:45
Well I agree with morbid on that.

walpurgis
2001-10-16, 13:40
And I agree with sane ;)

memnoch
2001-10-16, 13:50
lol, well i'm with sane and wally here too.

walpurgis
2001-10-16, 13:57
Why does everyone keep fucking calling me wally??? :kaioken: :kaioken: :kaioken:

bastards... :smash: :bawling:

memnoch
2001-10-16, 14:00
Cause it's a funny name......we can stop if u want......:smash:

walpurgis
2001-10-16, 14:13
*shrugs*
lol, dude, I don't care...

atifman
2001-10-16, 14:43
Originally posted by Kiniric
Well I agree with morbid on that.

Elaine from Seinfeld: "That's 'cause you're an idiot......"

Kiniric
2001-10-16, 16:40
Well, Atif, I laughed at that. Sienfield? That show sucks, its the worst comedy show ever made. The most comedic thing about it is that it is a failed comedy show. That show really has no good structure to it. It is rarely funny, probably why it was cancelled...

6MORBID6ANGEL6
2001-10-16, 17:22
i hope everyone dies of anthrax in new york,no one cares.

Originally posted by Kiniric
Well I agree with morbid on that.


speak for yourself,..idiot...

walpurgis
2001-10-16, 19:38
Are the majority of the Afghan people associated with the Taliban? Just curious, because that would have to be the most logical reason for not handing him over...
Personally, I pretty much agree with Bush on the whole no-compromise standpoint. It might not be the best way to go about doing things, but it also may be, and I don't think thousands of lives should be easily pardoned as it is.
Oh and also, who is the actual leader of Afghanistan, and what type of government does it have?

Yeah, I should probably know these things already, but I've never been one to pay much attention ;) :p ;)

memnoch
2001-10-16, 20:18
I don't know the name of the guy, but afganistan has a president, and i'm not sure what kind of government they have......i'm guessing communist though. :confused:

walpurgis
2001-10-16, 20:20
Well, if Afghanistan has a president, I don't think it would be a Communist government...

memnoch
2001-10-16, 20:24
Alrighty then.....democratic they are.

walpurgis
2001-10-16, 20:26
*laughs*

You don't have the slightest fucking clue, do you? :D :p :) :p :D

memnoch
2001-10-16, 20:31
Yes i do......it's you who doesn't know!!!:cool:












Alright i have no clue.

walpurgis
2001-10-16, 20:36
Hehe, I really am always right :p

Now, does anyone ACTUALLY know the answers to any of my previous questions?

far_beyond_sane
2001-10-17, 06:09
Originally posted by walpurgis
Are the majority of the Afghan people associated with the Taliban? Just curious, because that would have to be the most logical reason for not handing him over...
Personally, I pretty much agree with Bush on the whole no-compromise standpoint. It might not be the best way to go about doing things, but it also may be, and I don't think thousands of lives should be easily pardoned as it is.
Oh and also, who is the actual leader of Afghanistan, and what type of government does it have?

Yeah, I should probably know these things already, but I've never been one to pay much attention ;) :p ;)

Whoah. First of all, a criticism. News in America must be fucking bullshit, because everyone in Australia, every last kangaroo and water buffalo will know these things I type.

Afghanistan is right now the nastiest place on the planet.

And that includes before the recent bombing/escalation of violence.

The Russians tried desperately to invade Afghanistan back during the Cold War. They failed. The Afghan people were very tough cunts, who kicked the shit out of them with bugger-all resources and after taking an enormous beating.

Of course, America supported them through that conflict. The tribespeople were called the Mujihadeen.

Anyway, they eventually took power in Afghanistan, and like the country hadn't had enough shit kicked out of it already, civil war flourished. Eventually, one group came to the forefront, the Taliban.

These guys returned Afghanistan back to the 12th century. they imposed the harshest form of Islamic law possible, and instituted a regime of terror. Women can be beaten for not wearing an all-over body veil in public. People can be killed for listening to music or watching TV, and countless other things. Public executions and lynchings are common. When the Taliban took control they destroyed all the technology. There's creepy footage of thousands of unwound cassette tapes spooling out in the wind on city gates. They're cunts. And I don't mean cunts in the Kinric sense, I mean some of the worst people on the planet. I know for a fact that if I got the ooportunity to kill one by biting him (always him, no hers) to death, I would, even if bits of towel got stuck my teeth. These people are ignorant, evil motherfuckers.

Anyway, the people would LOVE to see them gone. But the laws in that country are so harsh, that there'll be no 'general' uprising. The hope lies in the Northern Alliance which are remains of the old Mujihadeen in the north of Afghanistan who control about 5-10% of the country. These people are who America are supporting now.

atifman
2001-10-17, 14:51
Originally posted by far_beyond_sane
they imposed the harshest form of Islamic law possible,


yeah, you gotta emphasize "harsh". yeah most of the law is based on the Quran, but they took it to the extreme. in islam, women should cover their body in public, but they can show their face (by the way, women can wear anything they want at home), Taliban took it to extremes and made it a law that the face has to be covered. but there's a plus to that though, in middle-eastern countries where the majority is Muslim, you never ever hear about couples cheating, affairs, or rape, that rarely ever happens 'cause of the body robes..
It's really hard to understand for someone who's non-muslim, but it's understandable for a muslim like me that they banned music and television. (Most television should be banned anyway, it's mostly crap (Mtv etc.)) they ban television 'cause it has alot of unislamic stuff on it. but they shouldn't ban Tv altogether though, that was taking it to the extreme. they should have News and good shows (like The Simpsons)(i think they won't show news on tv because they don't want people to be aware).
I don't think music is against Islam, but it is a very gray area, no one is sure if it's not allowed, so they shouldn't ban music 'cause of that.
so Islam is not a bad religion, it's just kinda strict. Taliban take Islamic law to the extreme and make Islam look bad. they suck.

Power Groove
2001-10-17, 15:49
Well said, sane. And I agree, the TV news blows ass. The news anchors are heinously biased, and the stories are inflammatory and have little to no substance. The only time I watch the shit is if there is breaking news or if a government official is giving an address or a press conference. On a side note: if you ever listen to the badgering, repetitive, stupid-ass questions some reporters ask military generals and the like, it fairly obvious how fucking absurd the media is.

I prefer to get my news from respectable sources. Namely the Wall Street Journal. It's the most unbiased news source that I know of. The main section has had some very good articles on the subject we're talking about.

walpurgis
2001-10-17, 19:19
Well, the TV news might blow ass, but I don't really watch it anyway, that's why I didn't know those things...

atifman
2001-10-19, 15:43
in certain middle-eastern countries (including Afghanistan) they restrict Freedom Of Speech. People are kinda getting brainwashed by that, or they're not getting the full story. Journalists and radio guys can only criticize America and Israel, not any other country or goverment (like their own). The radio in Afghanistan is controlled by the government, so you'll know what type of things they'll say (propaganda:"everything's fine", "we're a good government", "USA/Israel suck"). On Tv, they only have select shows like Baywatch, Sally, Saved By the Bell, Home Improvement, Jerry Springer (seriously!), tv shows that make America look bad.
sometimes it's just not Afghanistan, CNN is doing a little of that stuff too. like said before, they showed the palestinians dancing after the invasion of Kuwait. i was watching "Cnn presents Struggle For Islam", and they interviewed this arabic teacher guy. the translator was twisting, manipulating, and mistranslating the words. I understood the language the teacher was speaking, 'cause i am from Pakistan, the place where they interviewed him. the teacher really said something like, "the Quran has 30 chapters.". the translator said "I hate Jews and Israel. Osama bin Laden is a cool guy". okay, i exaggerated a little bit there, but you get the point.
news does blow.

far_beyond_sane
2001-10-19, 22:36
Now this is a really interesting perspective. Write more! Propaganda works both ways doesn't it?

I hope everyone has noticed the difference between the personally-interviewed Afghan people ("This is the worst country in the world and the Taliban made it so") and the 'dude in the street' ("America must die. They are evil, bad and...uh... evil! Foreign devils!")...

Atifman, tell us about the Pakistan/India thing. I find it very hard to understand, from conception to present-day.

atifman
2001-10-29, 16:57
Originally posted by far_beyond_sane
Now this is a really interesting perspective. Write more! Propaganda works both ways doesn't it?

I hope everyone has noticed the difference between the personally-interviewed Afghan people ("This is the worst country in the world and the Taliban made it so") and the 'dude in the street' ("America must die. They are evil, bad and...uh... evil! Foreign devils!")...

Atifman, tell us about the Pakistan/India thing. I find it very hard to understand, from conception to present-day.

can you clarify what you mean by "the Pakistan/India thing"?

far_beyond_sane
2001-10-29, 21:26
The continually broiling conflict thing. The nuclear arms face-off. The way you guys DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER over there...

atifman
2001-11-08, 22:23
oh, i see what you mean.
:o I'm not really that knowledgeable about that situation, all i know is that they're arguing over a piece of land (Kashmir mountains or something like that) which has a lot of resources. i don't know much else.:o

far_beyond_sane
2001-11-08, 23:09
So you don't hate Indians at all? :)

atifman
2001-11-08, 23:36
Originally posted by far_beyond_sane
So you don't hate Indians at all? :)

nah, how could i hate myself? i'm part-indian.
the only people i hate are wannabe, Andy Dick, and you (you crotchbucket).

memnoch
2001-11-08, 23:52
Who's andy dick?

walpurgis
2001-11-09, 06:53
He's a really annoying guy. I think he had a show on MTV for a while, and he played the hotel clerk in the movie Road Trip.

far_beyond_sane
2001-11-09, 06:54
You must have a boring life if you lower yourself to hating me, of all people :rolleyes: ;)

atifman
2001-11-09, 09:56
how so? :)

Father Death
2001-11-10, 13:22
hehe, no one hates me right!!

walpurgis
2001-11-10, 13:26
Of course not, Father Death........

:behead: :behead: :behead: :uzi: :uzi: :uzi: :smash: :smash: :smash: :flame: :flame: :flame: :behead: :behead: :behead:

Father Death
2001-11-10, 13:35
hmm...i somehow think u r lying...nah, nevermind, i'm just thinking crazy again

memnoch
2001-11-11, 01:59
HAHAHA.......heheheheh.....heh heh.....*cough* heh *cough*.......*cough*......:rolleyes:

I hate you father death.

Father Death
2001-11-11, 13:09
HA! i know U, of ALL people don't hate me, we're like this::love: (without the loving part, or likeing of eachother, or closeness....yeah i hate u to)

walpurgis
2001-11-11, 14:41
*cough cough FAGS! cough cough*


:eek: :eek: :eek:

Father Death
2001-11-12, 13:07
this coming from someone called WALLY!:rolleyes:

walpurgis
2001-11-12, 17:08
First of all, Wally isn't a gay name. Lance, and Rod are gay names
(no offence to anyone named Lance or Rod ;) )

And second of all, I don't call myself Wally, you fuckrags started calling me that.

memnoch
2001-11-12, 22:05
Originally posted by walpurgis
First of all, Wally isn't a gay name. Lance, and Rod are gay names
(no offence to anyone named Lance or Rod ;) )

And second of all, I don't call myself Wally, you fuckrags started calling me that.

Lance isn't gay man....uh, other names are!

We started calling you wally cause is suits your gayness!:D :p

Father Death
2001-11-14, 17:16
damn right...we might aswell start calling you Gay Wally...or GW...i personally like GW, its only 2 letters, an dits so true!!

WHOSE WITH ME?!!?!? GW!!!!!!!!!!

walpurgis
2001-11-14, 21:21
If you guys weren't Canadian I would probably be offended by that.

memnoch
2001-11-14, 22:46
Shut up GW!!!!!

far_beyond_sane
2001-11-15, 05:21
SHUSH WOMAN!

atifman
2001-11-15, 12:12
ok now that's starting to turn into a hackneyed cliché

Kiniric
2001-11-15, 14:28
WOW, THIS THE MOST TERRIBLE FUCKING NEWS EVER!! *blinks stupidly*

atifman
2001-11-15, 14:46
The Taliban is no more! hell yeah.:beer:

far_beyond_sane
2001-11-15, 20:58
Originally posted by Kiniric
WOW, THIS THE MOST TERRIBLE FUCKING NEWS EVER!! *blinks stupidly*

I thought you'd left. Go away again, will ya?

Kiniric
2001-11-16, 13:21
Actually I took a vacation, but I have returned just to piss off sane the pimp...

Father Death
2001-11-16, 18:05
YAY, WAR IS GOOD!!! :rolleyes:

in other news....GW!!!!!!!!

far_beyond_sane
2001-11-16, 20:02
Originally posted by Kiniric
Actually I took a vacation, but I have returned just to piss off sane the pimp...

Well, keep trying, don't give up so easily:)

Kiniric
2001-11-18, 22:35
Well, I have neither given up or tried so I have both to do, unless I give up before I try...

far_beyond_sane
2001-11-18, 23:36
*confused*

memnoch
2001-11-19, 01:42
Originally posted by Kiniric
unless I give up before I try...

yeah i'm familiar with that......

Father Death
2001-11-19, 13:18
thats the way to go alright;)

memnoch
2001-11-19, 13:30
Well, staying on topic.....i just heard today that they're closing in on Bin Laden. Sounds good to me. I think it'd be better if they caught him rather than blow him up....but whatever works.

Father Death
2001-11-19, 13:35
i'm jsut waiting for the nukes to fly...i'm heading dead north when that happens, just goin in a straight line up and up and up till i come across a polar bear and it eats me

memnoch
2001-11-19, 14:05
I don't think nukes will fly......not over bin laden idiot.....but u never know with unpredictable eastern countries and also the US.....

walpurgis
2001-11-19, 15:12
Personally I'd rather see the crotchmuncher dead, considering you know that if he's captured, our pussy ass government won't do anything nearly to what he deserves to have done to him, so I'm all for him dying.

As far as the whole nuke thing goes, it's not quite that big yet. If other countries get involved, I'm sure it will be a possibility, but I don't think it is as of now.

atifman
2001-11-19, 18:29
Originally posted by Father Death
i'm jsut waiting for the nukes to fly

nah, that ain't gonna happen.

Father Death
2001-11-21, 16:50
just wait till the US goes after Iraq...

memnoch
2001-11-21, 17:06
Why would they go after Iraq? THey're trying to stop terrorism, not start a war between countries.

Father Death
2001-11-22, 18:42
they are already at war

...and what is war? terrorism!

walpurgis
2001-11-22, 21:44
Iraq can fucking eat my ass. Fuck Iraq. I think we should have just nuked it :) :) :)

Explosions are sweet.

memnoch
2001-11-22, 22:11
Originally posted by Father Death
they are already at war

...and what is war? terrorism!

Uh.....no...war isn't terrorism. War is a fight between countries, or a civil war within a country. Terrorism is attacking something without showing your face......cowards are terrorists. Wars aren't faught by terrorists.....they are caused by them! (in some cases)

Father Death
2001-11-24, 11:49
the US isn't showing thier faces in this "war"...all they r doing is dropping bombs and shooting missles from miles and miles away

...but the US is showing thier true face in the fact that if anyone doesn't do as they command, all they will do is bomb the fuck outta you until you comply

memnoch
2001-11-24, 15:49
miles and miles away? They aren't lauching the missles from the US u konw......they have planes that fly over the targets, and then they merely drop the bombs on top. They also have troups on the ground keeping certain areas safe from the Taliban and such. Did you expect the soldiers to march up to the Taliban camp sites, and knock on the tent doors (i know, seems a little hard) and say "hey, we're from the US to come and kill you guys! Just wanted to show you our faces before you die!!"??
The states are showing their faces because they aren't hiding and pretending that the missiles landing in Afiganistan aren't theirs. They have announced their attack on the Taliban and made it public. That IS showing their face. Whoever bombed the towers "did not show their face" cause no one knows who did it for sure. (unless it's been figured out for sure by now)

Kiniric
2001-11-24, 20:43
I'd have to agree with Mr. Noch there.

walpurgis
2001-11-25, 12:20
Yeah, there's really no reason to risk American lives by sending them in there if it isn't necessary.

memnoch
2001-11-25, 18:15
Originally posted by Father Death
the US isn't showing thier faces in this "war"...all they r doing is dropping bombs and shooting missles from miles and miles away

...but the US is showing thier true face in the fact that if anyone doesn't do as they command, all they will do is bomb the fuck outta you until you comply

Correct me if i'm wrong.....but to me it sounds like you're on the terrorist's side of all this.

Father Death
2001-11-25, 18:37
Originally posted by memnoch


Correct me if i'm wrong.....but to me it sounds like you're on the terrorist's side of all this.

wow to get a question like that from a "friend"...thats pretty fucking harsh guy

the US announced publicly thier war on the terrorists yes, the terrorists have also been public about US policy for years, foreshadowing attacks to come in the future(and US policy is a major reason for the attacks)...the attacks finally came...everyone is shocked...i wasn't...not for the attacks itself, the type of attack yes, but not shocked that it actually happened.

the US is shooting missles from sea (or were anyways). then dropping bombs from overhead, so high overhead as they didn't know there were any until bombs started bursting in air..."bombs bursting in air"...i know i've heard that line before...blowing the fuck outta innocent civilians...an eye for an eye i guess, spew blood of the innocent in one country for the blood spewed of the innocent in the other

and why not send troups in their? the US has said why not...they are not well trained enough to go against the terrorists...this from the "most powerful" patriotic country on this planet.

if u wanna go rid the earth of terrorists, go in and get them, don't fucking sit and drop bombs...that will NOT win this "war on terrorism" by any means


"Yeah, there's really no reason to risk American lives by sending them in there if it isn't necessary."

then why start the war? what is war all about? people die in war cause its war, if it isn't necessary to risk thier livfes, then it isn't necessary to have started the war

and to finally answer your question, friend, no, i am not on the terrorists side, i am not on the US side either...i am on the side as someone who sees that everything going on is BS

walpurgis
2001-11-25, 18:44
They killed American innocents, and if it were my choice, I would go by whatever means necessary to get back at them, and when innocents get in the way...well, it happens. I doubt I'll ever know anyone from Afghanistan, or go there, so their lives are basically irrelevant to me, as heartless as it may sound, and in my honest opinion, people die all the time, so if we bomb and kill every motherfucker in that country it isn't going to bother me one bit.

Father Death
2001-11-25, 18:51
it wouldn't bother me either...kill all of them, go for it...so how do you get back at them, risk the lives of our soldiers...because its war, and thats what its about

walpurgis
2001-11-25, 18:53
I'd much rather play the part of god, and sit over far away in a safe place, press a button, and destroy basically whatever I felt was in the way.

Father Death
2001-11-25, 18:57
yes that would be fun...but what would be in the way the most? i say Greenland

memnoch
2001-11-25, 20:10
Originally posted by Father Death


wow to get a question like that from a "friend"...thats pretty fucking harsh guy

the US announced publicly thier war on the terrorists yes, the terrorists have also been public about US policy for years, foreshadowing attacks to come in the future(and US policy is a major reason for the attacks)...the attacks finally came...everyone is shocked...i wasn't...not for the attacks itself, the type of attack yes, but not shocked that it actually happened.

the US is shooting missles from sea (or were anyways). then dropping bombs from overhead, so high overhead as they didn't know there were any until bombs started bursting in air..."bombs bursting in air"...i know i've heard that line before...blowing the fuck outta innocent civilians...an eye for an eye i guess, spew blood of the innocent in one country for the blood spewed of the innocent in the other

and why not send troups in their? the US has said why not...they are not well trained enough to go against the terrorists...this from the "most powerful" patriotic country on this planet.

if u wanna go rid the earth of terrorists, go in and get them, don't fucking sit and drop bombs...that will NOT win this "war on terrorism" by any means


"Yeah, there's really no reason to risk American lives by sending them in there if it isn't necessary."

then why start the war? what is war all about? people die in war cause its war, if it isn't necessary to risk thier livfes, then it isn't necessary to have started the war

and to finally answer your question, friend, no, i am not on the terrorists side, i am not on the US side either...i am on the side as someone who sees that everything going on is BS

Alright......let me point something out to you about your post. You said an "eye for an eye". Terrorists purposely killed innocent americans. And now you blame the US of purposely killing innocent Afgans? No, they are not. On the contrary, the US is helping those who are affected by this in Afganistan by dropping food and shelter for those who need it.
You also said further on in your post that in war, people are bound to get killed, that's what war is about. So why did you give a shit about the innocent people who died? They're bound to get killed right? So why condemn the US for killing a few innocent lives in the process of wiping out terrorism? Especially once you say that people are bound to get killed cause of war?

And how are dropping bombs NOT getting rid of the terrorists? It's scaring them away and pushing them further and further back into a little area, so that they are all concentrated there, and it's easier to go and find the leader. I think they have a great plan for catching osama. It's better to go search for him in a little mountain region, rather than search a whole country. And it's not as easy as "go in and get them". This isn't some computer game with a small level where the terrorists are hidden somewhere and it takes a mere 5 minutes to find them. Terrorists are spread out over all the world, you can't just "go in and get them". It takes strategy and lots of planning to figure out their movements and their own plans, and trying to catch them in the process.

atifman
2001-11-25, 23:00
did you know that the cluster bombs that the US dropped are the same yellow color as the food packages? some civilians picked up the package thinking it was food and got blown up.:rolleyes:

memnoch
2001-11-26, 00:20
Well, they were stupid. I'm sure you could tell the difference between a crate holding food and rice and shit, and a big bomb.

far_beyond_sane
2001-11-26, 08:51
What if you were a really impoverished and hungry towelhead and you tried to eat a bomb?

Father Death
2001-11-26, 12:16
Originally posted by memnoch


Alright......let me point something out to you about your post. You said an "eye for an eye". Terrorists purposely killed innocent americans. And now you blame the US of purposely killing innocent Afgans? No, they are not. On the contrary, the US is helping those who are affected by this in Afganistan by dropping food and shelter for those who need it.
You also said further on in your post that in war, people are bound to get killed, that's what war is about. So why did you give a shit about the innocent people who died? They're bound to get killed right? So why condemn the US for killing a few innocent lives in the process of wiping out terrorism? Especially once you say that people are bound to get killed cause of war?

And how are dropping bombs NOT getting rid of the terrorists? It's scaring them away and pushing them further and further back into a little area, so that they are all concentrated there, and it's easier to go and find the leader. I think they have a great plan for catching osama. It's better to go search for him in a little mountain region, rather than search a whole country. And it's not as easy as "go in and get them". This isn't some computer game with a small level where the terrorists are hidden somewhere and it takes a mere 5 minutes to find them. Terrorists are spread out over all the world, you can't just "go in and get them". It takes strategy and lots of planning to figure out their movements and their own plans, and trying to catch them in the process.

i said the soldiers are bound to get killed...but hey, if u don't care about the civilians over there getting killed, then who cares about the US civilians that got killed?

bombing will not win any war and it never has...go through the history books, bombing has never won anything...the US is just still upset about pearl harbor that they have to go bomb everyone they can...and strategy, the US doesn't know dick about strategy, all they ever do is drop bombs, and in wars were they tried to do other things then just drop bombs, they failed, or at least did very poorly


but anyways, war is also terrorism, just to get back to my original correct comment

memnoch
2001-11-26, 13:07
There have been many events where the US' strategy have made them win their fight against their enemy. Maybe not in the World Wars or whatever.....but they have had many times where strategy have helped them a lot.

Eh whatever i'm too tired to argue now.......fact of the matter is now in Afiganistan they have 100's of troups taking control and protecting most of the cities in that country, and apparently 1000's more are on the way to provide backup.

Father Death
2001-11-26, 13:26
fact of the matter is Canada should invade the US...now is the perfect time, THEY WOULD NEVER SEE IT COMING!!!!!!

the canadian military is so much more skilled also...one canadian could take out 2 or 3 americans in terms of skill level and amount of training they get

US TAKEOVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
:uzi:
:uzi:
:uzi:
:flame:
:uzi:
:uzi:
:uzi:
:birthday: :birthday: :birthday:

memnoch
2001-11-26, 13:29
lol, i can't wait to see the replies from others like GW and atif regarding your post.
But yeah....it would be cool....but we're allies, so that wont happen...maybe if you or I was PM, but i doubt Chretien will do anything similar to that. Just help kill Talibans.

Father Death
2001-11-26, 13:33
imagine if all the sudden chrietien annouced war on the US, and that the british and japs were on our side....oh man, oh i'm starting to drool at the thought of a US takeover....oooohhhhhh yyyyeeeeaaaahhhh

:vampire:

memnoch
2001-11-26, 13:36
I don't think the british would be on our side.......they'd probably just stay out of it.......the japs however....i'm not too sure about.

Father Death
2001-11-26, 13:42
the british will help...they love canadians...and the japs, well...they like canadians too i sapose...everyone does, or at least is neutral w/canadians...lots of countries will be pleased to aid in a takeover of the US...and then u'll see me in the lead w/a plastic fork screaming "CHAAAAAARGE!!!!" and waiting for the rest of the troups to start killing people, then i scalp some half dead guy on the ground and use the plastic fork to eat his brains!!!!!!!!!!
BRAIN EATING!!!!!!!!!! YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
:scatter: :scatter: :scatter:

memnoch
2001-11-26, 13:46
W00!! Of course we'd bring our plastic milk bags too to have something to drink.....don't want crappy american non-bagged milk!

Father Death
2001-11-26, 13:51
and then after we finish drinking our milk from our plastic bags...WE CAN SUFFOCATE THE US BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

atifman
2001-11-26, 18:03
i hate you guys. you guys are morons. well maybe just Father Death. you're a moron.:rolleyes: :)

memnoch
2001-11-26, 21:44
lol!! w00t! i love you atif!:beer:

Father Death
2001-11-28, 16:43
:bawling:

wait a minute...:uzi: :angel:

:birthday: :drunk: :scatter: :drunk: :birthday:

far_beyond_sane
2001-11-28, 19:15
Hahahahahahaha Canadia is where it's at, eh :)

walpurgis
2001-11-28, 21:10
I want to move to Canada, that'd be badass!

Speaking of foreign countries, I have to write a satirical essay for English, I'm going to do it on illegal immigrants, and for the satire part, I'm gonna talk about building a giant catapult in Rhode Island, sending all the caught illegal immigrants there, and having them launched to Greenland ;)

memnoch
2001-11-29, 00:21
Originally posted by far_beyond_sane
Hahahahahahaha Canadia is where it's at, eh :)

You got that right!........eh!!

Wally, canada rules.......come and be loved.......muhahahah! Plus we have cool music stores with all the metal you want. Isn't that enough convincing right there? I mean come on......ANY Morbid Angel cd?? ANY?!?!!

walpurgis
2001-11-29, 06:53
Hmm, perhaps I'll make a run for the border then, just will be the North one this time

Do you guys think I'd be able to become part of the Canadian military?

Oh, another reason to move to Canada: it's very much easier to get Crown Royal there than it is here, so that'd be a big part of my decision. :)

walpurgis
2001-11-29, 06:56
Plus, instead of getting a carton of milk and one of those small containers of cereal, and pouring the milk in the cereal container, you could buy a box of cereal, a bag of milk, and pour the cereal into the milk bag! That's some crazy shit right there!!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

2001-11-29, 06:59
:confused: ???huh???:confused:

have i missed sumthing

memnoch
2001-11-29, 12:37
Canada rules!!!

You could probably become part of the military once you become a canadian citizen.

walpurgis
2001-11-29, 17:16
Kickass!

I want to be the Canadian general ;) We can declare war on Alaska or something!

Father Death
2001-11-29, 18:25
not just Alaska, not just the US...BUT THE WHOLE WORLD!!!!!!!

YYYEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

oh, and our beer is so much greater than US beers...so much

memnoch
2001-11-29, 22:01
Yeah, US beer is wussy shit beer, average like what, 3-4%??? That's shit man! We got the hard 6+%!!!

walpurgis
2001-12-01, 00:54
I thought it was like 5.9% or 5.2% or something...

far_beyond_sane
2001-12-01, 06:47
Nope GW. As an international beer-consuming pisspot I can safely say Miller, Bud and Schlitz are all shite compared to average Eurpoean and nice Australian domestic beers. And they're not that strong. Horrible stuff.

Canadian brews are quite pleasing. Moosehead is quite nice, and there's a Steam Beer from somewhere that's really impressive.....

Father Death
2001-12-01, 11:43
ahh Canada...what a country...and aussie land comes a close second i say, evenn though i've never been there, but i assume its good stuff, maybe one day i'll actually go there, get a kangaroo and a panda for pets, have the croc hunter guy come get the snakes outta my toilet every couple weeks, oh yeah, thats the way to go

walpurgis
2001-12-01, 15:22
I hate to say it James, but I'm thinkin you're not quite right on this one, since it says the % of alcohol content right on the side of a can...

If our fridge wasn't empty at the moment (:() I'd find out exact, but I think it's above 5% but below 6%.

memnoch
2001-12-01, 23:05
I'm pretty sure US beers don't go much higher than about 5.5%.......if even that. I've seen some 8% here in canada.

walpurgis
2001-12-02, 07:19
Yeah, but that's basically in the range that I said, so why are you guys arguing with me about it?

memnoch
2001-12-02, 19:34
I don't know.......US beer still sucks though!:p

walpurgis
2001-12-02, 21:49
It serves its purpose, that's all that matters...

memnoch
2001-12-03, 00:06
To be honest......i'm not a big beer fan to start off with....it ain't all that bad, but i much prefer the harder 40% shit. That'll get me fucked faster. (both non-literally and literally. ;) )

Metal Phreak
2001-12-03, 02:42
Yeah, some terrorists crashed some planes into some buildings...

Father Death
2001-12-03, 12:27
they sure did

now as w/mem's way of thinking, i don't care for beer much either...but DRAFT beer...thats pretty descent stuff, ice cold that is...as soon as that crap starts nearing room temp, oh shit it ain't good no mo...

memnoch
2001-12-03, 13:06
Warm beer has to be the shittiest thing i've ever tasted in my life.

Apart from that.......those crazy terrorists and they're suicide bombings! Don't the realize that if they keep commiting suicide, there won't be anymore Terrorists to stupidly kill themselves?

Father Death
2001-12-03, 13:28
they've been doing that for years and years...i don't think they care

mrweijia
2002-08-19, 14:51
its almost been a year. what do you guys think of them wanting to build an even bigger bulding as a memorial?

walpurgis
2002-08-19, 14:56
Strangely, I really don't care anymore. But I still wanna go kill some people.

memnoch
2002-08-19, 15:03
I think the "even bigger memorial" idea is stupid.

They're basically saying "LOOK!!! We have an even bigger target to hit!! It'll kill MORE people this time too!!"

walpurgis
2002-08-19, 15:10
HAHAHAHHA

They should send us a Trojan Camel...

memnoch
2002-08-19, 15:12
Bush would probably fall for it too.

walpurgis
2002-08-19, 15:13
If I saw one on the news, I would seriously piss myself laughing so hard...

atifman
2002-08-19, 17:51
maybe on the roof of this taller memorial thing, they would have one of those airflight-launch directing dudes (you know, the ones on the runway, with the colored vest, big headphone things, and the 2 flashlight dealies) pointing a different way with the flashlight dealies. it'd probably work too, stupid-ass terrorists.

AngelOfDeath
2002-08-20, 02:39
I still like the trojan camel thing :D :D :D I couldnt stop laughing when I read that hehe

morbid_death
2002-08-20, 05:35
Camel - *camel noise*
Bush - "Hey Ma, get your ass home and stop making a scene!"

you know wat...he would fall for it.

Tattered
2002-08-20, 11:39
yeah most people are over it, but still dude, it was awful, i saw a rolling image on the news of people actually jumping out the window of the top of one of the twin towers, and fall...that is shit scary

AngelOfDeath
2002-08-20, 12:32
Bush is a cunt. and that is almost a pun :)

Tattered
2002-08-20, 12:41
tony blair is a cunt

AngelOfDeath
2002-08-20, 12:59
they are both cunts together... and you got 666 posts :D lol congratz dude :beer:

Tattered
2002-08-20, 13:13
Yeah, it might have changed now tho

Cheers! :beer:

AngelOfDeath
2002-08-21, 11:38
well, it obviously has now :p lol

philkilla
2005-09-11, 22:48
And think, this is 4 years later...and they are still trying to find the cunt Bin Laden and rid the Al queada

DeathCS
2005-09-11, 22:51
and people support bush because..?
Atleast we sorta won the "Because we cannot find bin laden war" (aka Iraq)

LordofStorms
2005-09-11, 23:58
And think, this is 4 years later...and they are still trying to find the cunt Bin Laden and rid the Al queada
Yep.I thought this would be over by now.R.I.P 9/11 victims.

Zertonshfits
2005-09-12, 16:33
i say we should redo the 1812 war...


BURN THE WHITE HOUSE!!! :p

YJM04
2005-09-12, 16:38
it really got to me when i saw the jumpers on tv back in the 5th grade when this happend.its pretty shitty world we live in.
remebering that makes me hear adagio for strings in my head

foxguitar
2005-09-12, 16:57
it really got to me when i saw the jumpers on tv back in the 5th grade when this happend.its pretty shitty world we live in.
remebering that makes me hear adagio for strings in my head
I dont know about you theres no way I can sit and watch some hollywood bullshit movie of 9/11.It was hard enough to watch it as it unfolded and I live in NY . So fuck no I wont be going to the 9/11 movies that theyre talking about doing .
As far as winning , Well lets see ,No taliban ,no Saddam Hussein , the war is far from over but We are the winners , And that cunt bin laden is hiding in some shithole cave afraid to show his scrawny ass. :uzi:

YJM04
2005-09-12, 17:19
I dont know about you theres no way I can sit and watch some hollywood bullshit movie of 9/11.It was hard enough to watch it as it unfolded and I live in NY . So fuck no I wont be going to the 9/11 movies that theyre talking about doing .
As far as winning , Well lets see ,No taliban ,no Saddam Hussein , the war is far from over but We are the winners , And that cunt bin laden is hiding in some shithole cave afraid to show his scrawny ass. :uzi:
i agree

Transient
2005-09-12, 17:28
no saddam hussein? are you living under a rock? where the hell were you last december

The Execrator
2005-09-12, 17:41
As far as winning , Well lets see ,No taliban ,no Saddam Hussein , the war is far from over but We are the winners , And that cunt bin laden is hiding in some shithole cave afraid to show his scrawny ass. :uzi:
Idiot of the week!

TheLeviathan
2005-09-12, 18:00
More like year.

foxguitar
2005-09-12, 18:01
are you trying to say something boyz?????????

L,B'XXX
2005-09-12, 18:24
I saved some of the verses a friend of mine wrote about 9-11. He saw parts of it from his window. "Jumper In My Dreams" was one of them. I don't think I'll ever forget that piece.
It still makes my stomach get knotted thinking about that. I can't imagine living it.

powersofterror
2005-09-12, 18:29
I remembering hearing the iraqies found Bin Laden, but was released very quickly. Of course though, I don't really have any idea where I got this.

The Execrator
2005-09-12, 20:09
are you trying to say something boyz?????????
lmao

rabbifoodslicer
2005-09-12, 21:11
okok ok...heres what we do...tell the world to all go to one piece of land like...well anywhere and we give maybe 3 weeks all free transportation...after the dead line we nuke the world!!!!!....wait maybe im just really fuggin tired... :o :sleeping:

foxguitar
2005-09-12, 22:01
no saddam hussein? are you living under a rock? where the hell were you last december
well lets see ace , wheres sadam now in some hellhole cell awaiting his date with iraqi justice Id say yeah theres no saddam .
As far as bin laden camel fucker I see him preaching his jihad from some hole in the ground , funny thing about him he can preach to his minions to be martyrs but wheres is he . hiding like a little bitch
USA all the way :flame: :uzi: