View Full Version : Am I On Crack? .. Weird ringing sound on higher frets of the lower strings.
Okay, I've asked a few people on AIM if they experience this with their guitar and none of them seem to know what the hell I'm talking about..
When you play.. lets say the 24th fret (or the highest fret you have) on the 6th string (or lowest string..), do you hear a slight "ringing" sound?
Its really kinda hard to explain how this "ringing" sound sounds. Its kinda like a higher pitched ringed out sound going along with the actual note of the guitar.
Anyone have the slightest clue what I'm talking about?
Because.. I've experienced this on $100 guitars and a $2000 USA Jackson guitar I played.
Basically, I want to know if anyone else has experienced this or knows what I'm talking about. Or even better yet! Knows what causes this.
Any input is appreciated. Thanks :beer:
could be flat frets or maybe bowing of the neck. if the frets are worn or dressed poorly there could be an overtone. if the neck is bowed it could cause the string to ever so slightly graze a higher fret causing a harmonic. usually when that happens these are the 2 most common culprits.
Fucking crackhedz.
Yo, maybe it's the string on the other side of the fret. Try tying a piece of cloth around the strings to keep them from ringing and see if it goes away.
Or maybe I'm on crack...
OpethFan
2005-03-03, 03:20
I get that too dude, i dunno what it is really. But yea sounds like a light harmonic to me. I was having problems on one of my frets and i filed it down a little and it helped. Sometimes the string doesnt contact with the fret properly.
crispykid
2005-03-03, 09:59
well your bridge might be to low. and if you have new strings they tend to buzz alot at first also.
Transient
2005-03-03, 15:51
the only thing i hate more than saying "something is on crack" is saying "schizo"
you lose
brainsforbreakfast
2005-03-03, 16:04
maybe its another string vibrating because its the same note?
BeastOfCarrion
2005-03-03, 16:57
Yes, you have taken too much crack. Take less before you next pick up a guitar.
On a more serious note, if you have a 6 string guitar tuned down to be you are going to get buzz. If the guitar is not dwontunde, my thoughts would be that when you are holding the string down it is slightly touching one of the metal bits on the fretboard, causing the buzz.
could be flat frets or maybe bowing of the neck. if the frets are worn or dressed poorly there could be an overtone. if the neck is bowed it could cause the string to ever so slightly graze a higher fret causing a harmonic. usually when that happens these are the 2 most common culprits.
I think its the frets.
Fucking crackhedz.
Yo, maybe it's the string on the other side of the fret. Try tying a piece of cloth around the strings to keep them from ringing and see if it goes away.
Or maybe I'm on crack...
doubt its that
I get that too dude, i dunno what it is really. But yea sounds like a light harmonic to me. I was having problems on one of my frets and i filed it down a little and it helped. Sometimes the string doesnt contact with the fret properly. That sounds like a good theory
But yeah.. The main reason I wonder this is because I believe this "ringing" sound is causing a weird bassy drown-out of the 7-12 frets on the 6th string of my guitar. Its fuckin weird.. You play that trouble area, and you can hardly here the actual note, its just drowned out by a weird bassy overtone type thing. And I have played some RG and it seemed to have this problem too..
.. and its not fret buzz, I guarantee you.
anyways, thanks for the help. Any more is extremely welcome!
poultonjoe
2005-03-03, 17:25
my 80's kramer does this on the 12th fret on g, :mad: its annoying but its not noticable when amped up so who cares right? its really wierd on ym axe, sounds like its hollow on that fret or something :confused:
BeastOfCarrion
2005-03-03, 17:25
Turn off your amp, then the buzzing will go away!
Does the harmonic on your 24th fret sound different than when you fret the note?
If not, you can rule out the neck...
Is it the same will both pickups? I think my guitar does the same thing you're talking about when both pickups are on.
Did you put foam in the spring cavity like I told you to do 6 months ago?
servant of metal
2005-03-03, 18:22
ALL OF YOU ARE CRACK HEADS! :D :D :D :D :stoned: :stoned: :stoned:
try raising ur strings up a bitmaybe there just hitting the next fret by a little bit and becuz there hitting the next fret theyu ring a bit
i had this on my old jackson warrior
u could let a store (or whatever) redo the frets (no like putting new frets into it but like doing sumtin with it like flattening em) i dont know the english term for it
anyway im pretty sure its that.
i hope u see what i mean and if not ask sumone that english and knows the correct terms:D:D
:beer:
EDIT: im kinda drunk| (again :rolleyes: ) so it might not make any sence sry if thats the case
Dissection
2005-03-03, 18:30
Its probably obvious now, but its most likely your frets. Just stop playing the 24th fret and you'll be fine. :D
Take it to a shop, ass.
Did you put foam in the spring cavity like I told you to do 6 months ago?
Yes I did, but my luthier advised me not to put much in there (because it will cause the springs to get caught on it, making it not stay in pitch when I use the whammy bar).. so theres not very much in there. More may help..
Take it to a shop, ass.
OMG OMG OMG Thatz such a goood idea.. I would never have thought to do that!>!>!>!>!>!>!>
no fucking shit I've taken it to a shop , well a real luthier which is much better than a shop..
Dissection
2005-03-03, 19:06
OMG OMG OMG Thatz such a goood idea.. I would never have thought to do that!>!>!>!>!>!>!>
no fucking shit I've taken it to a shop , well a real luthier which is much better than a shop..
I was kidding, you fucking ninny.
try bringing ur strings higher from the fretboard and see if it still rings.
if yes.. the frets areent flattened good
if no, i dunno
is ur beck set right? maybe its 2 hollow
Yes I did, but my luthier advised me not to put much in there (because it will cause the springs to get caught on it, making it not stay in pitch when I use the whammy bar).. so theres not very much in there. More may help..
Then do what vai does.. http://vai.com/Machines/guitarpages/EVO/bodyback_frameset.html
just stuff it with tissues and tape it up? :p
beck?neck :p :rolleyes: ;)
the ringing is almost definately a harmonic.
every time you play a note, it has loads of harmonics, meaning, what you hear isn't just a single wave, its lots of them. the quieter ones are usually drowned out by the loudest wave, but the quiet notes alter the sound to make it richer, thinner, etc.
the volume of these harmonics is decided by many things, and probably your hearing is very good.
It's likely to be the springs, what i did was stick a bit of cloth that I cut up and this stops the buzzing, or vibration but it hasent got caught at all.
I will take a pic to show you what I did, sometimes after retuning or restringing I would get an echo like buzz and vibration on the G string.
Ozz
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