View Full Version : DEEPER GROWLS
Krow_666
2004-09-20, 08:32
IVE READ SEVERAL POSTS ASKING ABOUT HOW TO MAKE YOUR VOCALS DEEPER, SO LOOK NO FARTHER. AT BIENG A VOCALIST I COULND GO ANYWHERE FROM KING DIAMONDS SCREAMS TO MORTICIAN DEEP,... THESE ARE SOME THINGS YOU CAN DO TO MAKE YOUR VOCAL CHORDS THICKEN. REMEMBER THE EFFECT IS NOT INSTANT, ITLL MAYBE TAKE 2-3 WEEKS, ALL DEPENDING ON YOUR EFFORTS.
GARGLE BAKING SODA WITH WATER AFTER GROWLING FOR A LONG TIME,... HEY THE VOCALIST FOR CANNIBAL CORPSE TOLD ME THIS ONE SO IT SHOULD WORK
DRINK A SHOT OF TEQUILLA AND CHAIN SMOKE 2 CIGARETTES AFTER GROWLING, AND IMIDIATLEY START GROWLING AGAIN ( MAKES VOCAL CHORDS GROW EXTRA MUSCLE TISSUE)
OR DRINK MILK TO CREATE FLEM (AND ALL OF THE ABOVE) AND HAVE MORE OF A DYING FETUS VOCAL STYLE.
HOPE THIS HELPED
CONTACT ME AT: LESLIETROWBRIDGE@HOTMAIL.COM
The Doctor
2004-09-20, 08:47
thats cool but loose the caps man, thats like an unwriten law around here.
Innards-Decay
2004-09-20, 14:51
haha, yeah, rather have em all lower case than all caps...
guitar_demon
2004-09-20, 15:51
start smoking? FUCK THAT
Chokehold
2004-09-20, 17:00
start smoking? FUCK THAT
Smoking rules. I'm not even old enough and I smoke.
Necro_Butcher
2004-09-20, 17:38
start smoking? FUCK THAT
word
smoking is for queers, plus it would make you have less vocal power
Dystopia
2004-09-20, 17:51
Most if not all of those sound like things that would ruin your voice.
BeastOfCarrion
2004-09-20, 18:09
Smoking rules. I'm not even old enough and I smoke.
does that make you feel like a man?
there are other negatives assiciated with smoking that can do bad things for your singing, so that might not be the way to go
Chokehold
2004-09-20, 19:33
Alexi Laiho smokes. He has an awesome voice.
BeastOfCarrion
2004-09-20, 22:59
Alexi Laiho smokes. He has an awesome voice.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, that was a joke, wasn't it? :(
The Doctor
2004-09-21, 08:13
that means that you have to smoke?
i hope you get lungcancer and realize what a fucking dumbass you've been.
You should smoke cirags then, they dont harm you that much since you dont inhale. And a joint every once and a while doesnt harm you too bad. but regular smoking is lame.
powersofterror
2004-09-21, 08:16
Alexi Laiho smokes. He has an awesome voice.
You will also notice that his smoking is bad enough to where he coughs up flem 5 times every song. When I saw him with Iced Earth and Evergrey, my god he spat on the stage floor after every verse. What do you think it'll be like when he's over 40?
corroded
2004-09-21, 08:19
Alexi Laiho smokes. He has an awesome voice.
how does that justify your smoking?
Nihilist
2004-09-21, 08:29
Smoking rules. I'm not even old enough and I smoke.
You fucking retard. Killing yourself rules, yes, certainly. Give up while you're still young. I started when I was 14, haven't been able to stop.
I think I'd rather sound like Michael Bolton than Corpsegrinder, if it means not smoking. Giving yourself cancer isn't quite worth it.
Krow_666
2004-09-21, 09:36
Well, Let me tell you all something,... its up to you to smke or not, that is why i added in different methods to do this. Besides i heard no one complaining about the tequilla,.. thats odd, ;) hahahahahah,... well thanks for taking a look at this and hope it helps in some way.
powersofterror
2004-09-21, 09:57
What do you sing, Krow 666? You make it sound like you have tons of experience.;)...you live in Texas?! Where's Laredo?
Chokehold
2004-09-21, 14:31
I only smoke like once a week or less. And I am tring to quit. I have almost quit. And alot of people on this website drink alot. So what you guys are saying is its ok to destroy livers but not lungs. Who wants to live till theyre 90?
powersofterror
2004-09-21, 17:31
I will never die!:vampire:
guitar_demon
2004-09-21, 19:34
Who wants to live till theyre 90?
who wants to live with a hole on their neck from smoking
Chokehold
2004-09-21, 20:07
who wants to live with a hole on their neck from smoking
No one. You have all encouraged me to quit. Thank you. :)
Nihilist
2004-09-21, 20:47
If that was sarcasm, fuck you. If it wasn't, well done.
If that was sarcasm, fuck you. If it wasn't, well done.
i second that, cheers for the vocal tips too. :beer:
more booze, no smokes and hard drugs!! (that sounds kind of hypocritical but meh)
Dystopia
2004-09-21, 21:41
I only smoke like once a week or less. And I am tring to quit. I have almost quit. And alot of people on this website drink alot. So what you guys are saying is its ok to destroy livers but not lungs. Who wants to live till theyre 90?
Smoking is bad for vox. Drinking I'm not sure, but I am almost positive it has no affect.
powersofterror
2004-09-21, 22:28
Drinking helps with confidence though....
...and it makes you feel like a man:rolleyes:
Morbid+Roach
2004-09-21, 22:40
I guess I can see the flem from smoking making your voice deeper, but where do you get the idea that alcohol will make it deeper?
Nihilist
2004-09-22, 02:52
Phlegm. PHLEGM!
Chokehold
2004-09-22, 05:14
If that was sarcasm, fuck you. If it wasn't, well done.
It wasnt sarcasm. Now I have heard the dangers of it from other metalheads. Now I will just drink more. :drunk: :)
Nihilist
2004-09-22, 05:26
Good lad. Drink up!
Father Death
2004-09-22, 08:44
i always wanted to sing, but years of chronic smoking has left me without that ability...i just don't have the breath for it, i can't get a good yell or anything going, i just doesn't work...ah well :stoned:
MeTalManiac555
2004-09-22, 19:23
First off I wan't to say that those techniques do work a bit and also instead of milk you can eat yogurt as well, that will help a little but not too much.
Now for the little kid that thinks smoking is COOL, your stupid as hell and if you only smoke about once a week then you have no excuse to not be able to stop because your NOT even addicted. Don't go around telling people it's cool to smoke and shit because you never know, there could be some other 14 or 15 year olds on here that don't know better and will start doing it and thinking that it's cool to do it if you wan't to sing like the vocalists on metal bands.
That's all I have to say now. Oh, the drinking part... Drinking is a priviledge... haha just messing but nah I would rather drink than smoke and I'm not saying to do that instead of smoke because neither is better than one or the other. Now if you have a big drinking problem then that's another story.
Morbid+Roach
2004-09-22, 22:43
Smoking rules. I'm not even old enough and I smoke....You're kidding right?
Alexi Laiho smokes. He has an awesome voice.
Rob Halford shags guys. He has an awesome voice. :p
Anyone want some? :D
Krow_666
2004-09-23, 07:20
Well I have about 10 years experience on vocals and i sing anything from a whistle high scream to a will ramer growl,... (wow, that sounded so full of myself)... Laredo is a border city, and gateway to mexico, thats why i started drinking at 16 cause you could do anything at mexico, lol. thanks for all the feed back, as far as smoking i said it is to grow tisue on your throaght, i never said to consider it an addiction, and alchhol opens up your throaght.
corroded
2004-09-23, 10:02
its THROAT !
Chokehold
2004-09-23, 17:56
I QUIT OK!!! And you all convinced me to.
MoonRaven
2004-09-23, 18:10
I QUIT OK!!! And you all convinced me to.
thats nice, but you are still a twatty little noob
i have an idea, FUCKING PRATICE, my growls were shit 2 1/2 years ago, but until i justr recently have been sick, the past few months i could do mikael from opeth's growl perfectly.
Chokehold
2004-09-23, 18:29
thats nice, but you are still a twatty little noob
i have an idea, FUCKING PRATICE, my growls were shit 2 1/2 years ago, but until i justr recently have been sick, the past few months i could do mikael from opeth's growl perfectly.
And why am I a twatty little noob?
cxmachine
2004-09-23, 19:46
i don't condone smoking either, but i do hear that from a few people in bands, liquor and cigarettes for death vocals, however the milk works especially well, and the baking soda and water is good too, and remember to drink something with honey and lemon after the set to soothe ur vocals, a full set of growling, whether conditioned or not still does a number on the throat
so i have less posts then him, does that make me a twatty noob too? or am i still just an asshole? :)
Chokehold
2004-09-23, 19:50
There is a thing called Clear Voice that reduces pain and makes your voice clear and it makes screams and growls sound crazy and awesome.
MeTalManiac555
2004-09-23, 20:37
Something called Clear Voice? Weird, I never heard of it. Have you tried it out? It is probably for people with a bad sore throat that can't talk much... :confused:
Chokehold
2004-09-24, 15:13
No. It was in a guitar magazine and is endorsed by :sickface: the singer of Ill Nino.
Krow_666
2004-09-27, 08:57
No. It was in a guitar magazine and is endorsed by :sickface: the singer of Ill Nino.
MAKES YOU NOT WANNA USE THE DAMM THING!!!, LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,.... dosn't really work, its for pussy ass kids that dont know how to sing, lol.
MoonRaven
2004-09-27, 09:30
i don't condone smoking either, but i do hear that from a few people in bands, liquor and cigarettes for death vocals, however the milk works especially well, and the baking soda and water is good too, and remember to drink something with honey and lemon after the set to soothe ur vocals, a full set of growling, whether conditioned or not still does a number on the throat
so i have less posts then him, does that make me a twatty noob too? or am i still just an asshole? :)
no, you are just an asshole, he is a twatty little noob because he thinks that smoking is cool.
MoonRaven
2004-09-27, 09:32
MAKES YOU NOT WANNA USE THE DAMM THING!!!, LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,.... dosn't really work, its for pussy ass kids that dont know how to sing, lol.
i agree, if you are gonna growl you need to understand that it will fucking hurt, but you get used to it.
Krow_666
2004-09-27, 10:46
:D Yeah, it hurts like a bitch at first!! But then the after effest is Great!!
Chokehold
2004-09-27, 14:27
I started screaming when I was like 10 and now I can scream like anyone. It doesnt hurt to scream. Clear Voice soothes your vocal cords and makes your scream raspier. It also helps you actally sing. I never said I like Ill Nino, they suck ass.
Does milk really ruin your voice? Shouldn't there be some label on it or something to warn people? Is it permanent? I have cereal with milk nearly every day, is that why I have a lot of mucus in my throat all the time? If I stop using dairy, will the extra mucus go away?
MeTalManiac555
2004-09-28, 20:00
Does milk really ruin your voice? Shouldn't there be some label on it or something to warn people? Is it permanent? I have cereal with milk nearly every day, is that why I have a lot of mucus in my throat all the time? If I stop using dairy, will the extra mucus go away?
Your joking right? How old are you seriously?
Dystopia
2004-09-28, 20:08
Your joking right? How old are you seriously?
Give 'em a break. I'm sure he's young, and when you're young you don't know shit, and the only way you learn is to ask, or wait till common sense hits you which is irritating. Oh shit I need sleep.
MeTalManiac555
2004-09-28, 20:12
I am not making fun of the kid. That's why I asked his age, if he's younge then I'll know but if not then I will know he is messing around.
:D Yeah, it hurts like a bitch at first!! But then the after effest is Great!!
For how long have you been growling, and how much per day/week/month/whateversuitableperiodoftimeyouchoose?
powersofterror
2004-09-29, 12:05
...I think it was like 10 years or so he said....I do it most every day.
MoonRaven
2004-09-30, 09:15
For how long have you been growling, and how much per day/week/month/whateversuitableperiodoftimeyouchoose?
I have been at growling for about 2 1/2-3 years now. it doesnt hurt so much anymore.
The Doctor
2004-09-30, 12:43
1 year of growling. 3 years of singing
The Execrator
2004-10-02, 20:27
I have about 1 minute experience of growling...
I QUIT OK!!! And you all convinced me to.
is it just me or has metal tabs turned into a zoo full of stupid noobs like this twat. In relation to Chokehold, you sir are a fucking weak minded twat :flame: :uzi: :smash: :kaioken: :mad: :angry: :behead:
Zombie Clown
2004-10-16, 23:26
Smoking rules. I'm not even old enough and I smoke.
wow, way to perpetuatite the stereotype you asshole
Zombie Clown
2004-10-16, 23:30
oh, and by the way, this whole topic is pathetic. you shouldnt have to cheat to obtain your growl. just do what you can naturally, if you cant growl, then play drums or something else
Credit to Dementia
2004-10-17, 00:20
oh, and by the way, this whole topic is pathetic. you shouldnt have to cheat to obtain your growl. just do what you can naturally, if you cant growl, then play drums or something else
Good call. And if you've just started singing and can't sing nearly as well as Bruce Dickinson, don't practice and try and get better. Go play drums.
Something tells me Zombie_Clown needs a drummer for his band....
Insomnium
2004-10-17, 22:13
i idolize any and all of you that can scream / growl / whatever. i cant for the life of me
i idolize any and all of you that can scream / growl / whatever. i cant for the life of me
Cool. I'm Idolized!
Zombie Clown
2004-10-18, 20:34
Good call. And if you've just started singing and can't sing nearly as well as Bruce Dickinson, don't practice and try and get better. Go play drums.
honestly, i cant tell if thats sarcasm or not
Zombie Clown
2004-10-18, 20:36
Something tells me Zombie_Clown needs a drummer for his band....
i am the drummer dipshit, the only problem is, i need a second band to play metal, my current band only plays hard rock, very frustrating
Dystopia
2004-10-18, 20:45
Ha, he called someone a dipshit but can't tell if CtD's post is sarcastic or not (it is). :D
RUSSIANROULETTE
2004-10-29, 22:00
Hahah, funny thread.
Shit, youse made me feel like shit, reminded me of that South Park episode where the parents take the kids to the "Tolerance Museum" and then rag on a smoker outside....heheheh
Anyways, I've been a vocalist for a while, longer than I've been smoking. And no, I didn't start smoking to have deeper vocals, I don't even know why I started smoking but now I don't want to quit...I probably have cancer already so it doesn't matter to me really. I've never tried any of those things you guys mentioned, like the milk and all that other shit. My vox have always been pretty deep and raspy, but recently I've been messing with low screams instead of growls, kinda like Barney Greenway...I sound fuckin monstrous. As for clear vox, I'd love to be able to sing all that cock-rock shit but my voice cracks like a hymen so i just say fuck it. I'm just concentrating on my guitar playing right now but when I want to sing, it's all gravy, heheh.
messedhobo4
2004-11-16, 21:35
GARGLE BAKING SODA WITH WATER AFTER GROWLING FOR A LONG TIME,... HEY THE VOCALIST FOR CANNIBAL CORPSE TOLD ME THIS ONE SO IT SHOULD WORK
Has anyone tried that?? I dont' want to fuck up my voice, if anyone else has heard about it working lemme know.
at the moment i only drink stuff to thicken temporarily, like apple juice is good stuff. delicious and nutritious too.
so your throat is as dry as a nun's cunt, thats better than rooting your vocal chords on a more permanent basis. but hey if the grinder of all things corpse-like told chow666 it works.....it probably does.
Apple juice does help, but apple blackcurrant juice is better!
SlayerDude
2004-11-22, 23:20
i idolize any and all of you that can scream / growl / whatever. i cant for the life of me
Shweet...I am idolized by someone! :bawling: This is the happiest day of my life!!! I would like to thank Cannibal, and deathmetal!!!
Dyingfetus666
2004-12-08, 12:15
Krow 666, u are so full of shit. chain smoke 2 cigs? lol. if u really want a low grunt, crack your vocal chords, but still scream on them. uu can go up to mountains, and scream, and crack them, and theyll heal in about 2 weeks, or u can work at a haunted house, like i did, and crack them on accident, and still scream on them, and they'll heal in about a month and a half, and ure voice will be like 1 octave deeper. and always drink WARM fluids. Cold fluids tighten your vocal chords
Dyingfetus666
2004-12-08, 12:17
i have a range from mortician to old dimmu borgir, so i know what im talking about. fuck george corpsegrinder. chris barnes is awesome, corpse-fucker mumbles live, if u havent heard live cannibalism
[Nocturno_Culto]
2004-12-08, 12:50
IF you like really deeper growls, listen to FERMENTO :D:D:D:D
GravelFistFM
2004-12-08, 15:43
even if you smoke, how are u gonna sing if you do at all... and besides, i dont think that the ladies like the smell of cigs on ya, and (once again!) besides...i think liver transplants cost less...and besides (yet another time!) the less money u spend on cigs or whatever u want, the more money you have to rock out with your cock out!...like that guy dancing on his bed or whatever...gave me nightmares :smash: donde esta Donkey Kong?
GravelFistFM
2004-12-08, 16:01
dont be talkin all the jibba jabba
Smoking - bad... but I smoke...:(
Casketcrusher
2005-01-25, 19:47
Fuck smoking. It accually makes your growels fucking horrible. I'm not that good of a growler myself. I can do stuff like Dying Fetus, Nile, Mortician,Lord Gore, Prostitute Disfigurement, Devourment, ect. ect.
Look at George Fisher never once smoked a cigarrette before and look at his voice. OK OK he's loosing it but whatever. He drinks warm water with baking soda.
Hey, i am guy form Norway.
I do vocals in my band called Beyond Insanity.
In the last year i`ve grewn in knowlage of what i am doing, and that leads me up to where i am to day. but i am lookong fore some more knowlage.
Does anny one know where i can find some good advices fore how using the voice by growling. i also want the high pitch part.
-Never!
When I growl I am usually on par with Randy Bltyhe and Brain Fair. But my goal is to be able to sing like Layne Staley.
Finkyfun
2005-03-22, 21:27
You will also notice that his smoking is bad enough to where he coughs up flem 5 times every song. When I saw him with Iced Earth and Evergrey, my god he spat on the stage floor after every verse. What do you think it'll be like when he's over 40?
Haha, yeah I noticed that too! I saw CoB in San Francisco when they were touring with Fear Factory and Lamb of God, and Alexi kept constantly spitting out these giant wads of crap everytime he was done singing a verse. He was actually being quite stylish about it; he would spit straight up in the air and then move to the side so it wouldn't fall on him. And the lights would be shining all over the giant spitwads too.
Silent Night 6 6
2005-03-23, 01:29
Exactly, I saw that when I went to see them, but then on the other hand, every recent video of COB that I see, he does that. Annoys me, it's like how the fuck could you produce that much saliva, and does he smoke?
powersofterror
2005-03-23, 03:16
Without really knowing, I'd say yes he does.
shimbolla
2005-03-23, 16:13
Just to put in my little part on this topic, I've heard one thing about making the voice deeper (or higher). Supposedly, if you sing in a lower tone--pushing your voice as low as you can comfortably sing--then it will gradually lower your voice. Same with making it higher (although I don't know why anyone in metal would want a higher voice). I've heard that using a higher tone while singing can expand your vocal range. And also, I think, singing or even just talking with a a very low voice will stretch it deeper (although gradually). It's worth a shot. It's helped me some.
BeastOfCarrion
2005-03-23, 16:56
Maybe you would want a higer voice if you sang POOOOWWWEEEERRRR metal.
GravelFistFM
2005-04-05, 09:03
singing is like lifting weights, you lift a small amount, heal and lift a bigger weight when u think u can handle it...to me it was about guaging...after a while ur throat wont hurt after a long set
blitz906
2005-11-30, 20:47
Somehow I find beer helps get a really low gutteral growl, Cannibal Corpse or Lamb of God style....whenever I drink really thick beer, like malt liquor, German ale or stout like Guinness, I can growl REALLY deep, and smoking does help....but I've been a pack a day smoker since I was 12....so all you smoking newbies have alot of catching up to do lol
Cheers :beer: :vampire:
dairy products will, and rocket sauce
John Holland
2005-12-01, 07:36
I can tell you from personal experience that cigarette smoking does not help my vocals, AT ALL. In fact it makes my growls worse. So don't ever take anyone else's word for it and start smoking : Smoke a cigarette and see if you can growl better. If you can't, STOP. Because if you get addicted to it, and your growls get worse, you have a huge problem.
Unanything
2005-12-01, 14:01
Just fucking practice! Explore your voxbox, push it to the limits. Really stretch it by hitting the highest pitches you can!
Smoking will just take your breathing to hell with your voice in the end. And your ability to cogitate lyrics will disappear as you initiate a brian cell holocaust. And you won't be able to get the boost to do them as your spleen dissolves.
Secure a painful future if you want, but...
MeTalManiac555
2005-12-02, 00:45
Your a damn idiot man, are you sure your still not 12? Don't go telling people to start smoking and drinking and say it will work. And don't say that practicing will get your vocal box better. Actually growling is not good for your voice or vocal box if you wanna be completely CORRECT. I am not saying that growling is dumb and not to do it but it's true that it's not good for your voice. Don't drink anything cold either before singing. Take some vocal classes or something if you don't believe me. You will find out that way at least.
I think smoking doesnt make anything better, it will just make things worse.
Growling isnīt easy, and I think that the good vocalists out there have their own special technique.
And if you do it right it shouldn īt hurt that much.
The more often you do it, the better it will sound. Its just about practice, like everything.
It will help some people to listen to some vocals and then try to imitate them.
My only problem is, that I donīt know where I can practice the vocal stuff (besides our practice room). I canīt be that loud in my room! ;)
I've gotten into a routine. It's; smoke one or two fags (I don't usually.. just when I'm gonna growl) and put a glass of milk in the microwave for 1minute. That's too heat up my throat and leave some mucus. Just some crap I've felt helped a bit, don't take this as law.
Throat Crusher
2005-12-15, 19:40
heh fags... lol. I dont use shit to make my vocals deeper. I have used exercieses, like putting something heavy on your chest and breathing in and out, and then starting to sing. It will build your diaphragm muscle. I wouldnt know what else to lable my growl as, at some points its like a Devourment one, and then others its like a Dimmu Borgir type yell/growl/scream. Oh well thats what i do.
Robbie Filth
2005-12-16, 12:10
I don't do anything it just comes naturally for me takes a while to get it just practise getting your voice as low as possible and loud.
I can do vocals like Visceral Bleeding, Moritician........etc
Throat Crusher
2005-12-16, 12:36
Some people have projection, like Bones98 and some people dont Chris Barnes =). I can project pretty well. Its not amazing like Bones98 but its a decent one. I dont do much to edit them either, i use noise reduction and thats it.
IlikeRiffseveryone
2005-12-18, 11:25
why would anyone smoke for your vox? it hurts the number 1 thing you need for it-strong breathing habbits
Shreddist
2005-12-29, 01:33
Somehow I find beer helps get a really low gutteral growl, Cannibal Corpse or Lamb of God style....whenever I drink really thick beer, like malt liquor, German ale or stout like Guinness, I can growl REALLY deep, and smoking does help....but I've been a pack a day smoker since I was 12....so all you smoking newbies have alot of catching up to do lol
Cheers :beer: :vampire:
hah, sure youre not just drunk and thinking theyre deeper? :behead:
My best advice is if you want to get phlem in your throat, do some screaming first, doesnt matter if youre good or bad at it, just do some screaming, just dont hurt yourself now! I find that screaming produces phlem faster than growling. Or you can be a faggot and go drink some milk/hotsauce mixed concoction before you do it :p Oh, and curl your tounge slightly up, that really affects the sound. Good luck! :beer:
Actually there alternatives to drinking beer. Beer doesnt do anything; it doesnt abuse ur throat glands in order to swell up and increase friction with the bronchial glands when growling. Beer is also foamy and still.. Basically "Stilled" beverages dont do shit.
Ohh to that guy before Shreddist; I smoke like 10-15 ciggs a day. Sadly I'm pissed off with my habits but dude, I do alot of prolonged screaming and growling and I never heard a change.
Another thing that helps alter ur voice is the placement of ur tongue. There are times when I stick out my tongue a little bit between my top and bottom teeth for those "Wet wanna be Matti Way" vocals.
FOr those gutturals I do that sound SO SIMILAR to Ruben Rosas from Devourment, I keep my tongue arched backwards a bit, not touching the top of the mouth or else it sounds a bit different.
For those raspy vocals I do; I breath in air very fast with my lips puckered up. The more open u have, the more ur vocals sound more powerful. I also breath in hair when Im screaming for those "metal core or hard core" vocals with my mouth widely open saying "EEEYAA."
Thats what i can say so far. U might get more of an idea when i record the video.
JacksonGuitars07
2005-12-31, 10:02
Exactly, I saw that when I went to see them, but then on the other hand, every recent video of COB that I see, he does that. Annoys me, it's like how the fuck could you produce that much saliva, and does he smoke?
Alexi smokes a shitload. I think he smokes some in the TL&S Lost In Helsinki vid. He said in some interview he drinks coffee and smokes before every show.
powersofterror
2005-12-31, 18:14
Does anyone other than me think that Alexi Laiho and Chuck Schuldiner have almost the same speaking voice?
The Angry Hobbit
2005-12-31, 23:34
LMAO!!!! i never really thought about it.... but yeah, i guess they do :p
The Angry Hobbit
2005-12-31, 23:43
if you wanna get your voice perminatley lower... eat lots of cheese for a while! it worked for me... not really on purpose, i just eat alot of cheese. :p
but seriously, i find it helps if you do some warm up growls for a little bit, then go smoke a cig, and then drink some water. try not to drink anything carbonated... and maybe even swallow a little bit of honey for a mucus coat.
if you smoke first i find it really does help alot... but you HAVE to drink something after or your voice will be fucked when your done.
light_the_grass
2006-03-20, 06:30
hell.....o
i vocals is so close to cc
but one thing im worried about is that can i growl like that if i sing high pitch
plz lemi kno
John Holland
2006-03-20, 10:03
if you smoke first i find it really does help alot... but you HAVE to drink something after or your voice will be fucked when your done.
I've been smoking actual tobacco out of a pipe. And this is 23978349025x better than cigs for growls, I've found. For what a month's supply of Marlboro's might cost, you can get a decent Dr. Grabow pipe and an ounce and a half of Borkum Riff. Not the finest, but once you get used to a pipe you won't go back to Camel's.
the lamb
2006-03-20, 14:22
I've been smoking actual tobacco out of a pipe. And this is 23978349025x better than cigs for growls, I've found. For what a month's supply of Marlboro's might cost, you can get a decent Dr. Grabow pipe and an ounce and a half of Borkum Riff. Not the finest, but once you get used to a pipe you won't go back to Camel's.
Okay, I smoke MARLBORO. But, then again i am not a vocalist. So fuck it.
I would like to know one thing though, if you light the pipe tobacco, it doesnt go off right.... My friends do something like a pipe (really small)...but the thing is that they have to light it up everytime they take it in.
(they themselves dont know what it is called in english).
Do u you know it is called in english
blizzard_beast
2006-03-20, 14:52
I've been smoking actual tobacco out of a pipe. And this is 23978349025x better than cigs for growls, I've found. For what a month's supply of Marlboro's might cost, you can get a decent Dr. Grabow pipe and an ounce and a half of Borkum Riff. Not the finest, but once you get used to a pipe you won't go back to Camel's.
I tried to get into pipe smoking, and it was fairly enjoyable for a while. It's just such a hassle trying to light it and pack it properly...especially in windy and generally shitty weather.
timedragon
2006-03-20, 21:11
hell.....o
i vocals is so close to cc
but one thing im worried about is that can i growl like that if i sing high pitch
plz lemi kno
why dont you try it :idea: cause fuck if i know.
light_the_grass
2006-03-21, 08:07
:vampire: but i dont wanna b a highpitched vocalist
i just wanna real fuckin death vocals till the end of my time
light_the_grass
2006-03-21, 08:09
why dont you try it :idea: cause fuck if i know.
but i dont wanna b a highpitched voclist
i just want real fuckin death vocals till the end of my time
light_the_grass
2006-03-22, 03:43
Okay, I smoke MARLBORO. But, then again i am not a vocalist. So fuck it.
I would like to know one thing though, if you light the pipe tobacco, it doesnt go off right.... My friends do something like a pipe (really small)...but the thing is that they have to light it up everytime they take it in.
(they themselves dont know what it is called in english).
Do u you know it is called in english
is that smokin is usefull for growling ?????????
John Holland
2006-03-22, 05:52
I would like to know one thing though, if you light the pipe tobacco, it doesnt go off right.... My friends do something like a pipe (really small)...but the thing is that they have to light it up everytime they take it in.
(they themselves dont know what it is called in english).
Do u you know it is called in english
Once you get trained to a pipe you'll start to take really huge hits, because you have to take a mammoth hit to keep the thing lit. This has actually increased my lung power some. But yeah, they don't light like cigarettes.
Lol, yea, smoking may make your voice sound deeper (talking from experience) but it is not the best way to have low/deep growls. I can personally say that I have low/deep growls. I did none of your suggestions. Practice, practice and more practice. It all depends on the position of your lips and of course the amount of practice.
eviscerate
2006-04-04, 15:24
Lol, yea, smoking may make your voice sound deeper (talking from experience) but it is not the best way to have low/deep growls. I can personally say that I have low/deep growls. I did none of your suggestions. Practice, practice and more practice. It all depends on the position of your lips and of course the amount of practice.
You're absolutely right. When I first started growling I sounded like a pig, but I practiced a shitload and finally got a growl. Don't try to use weird methods to make your voice this way or that, just practice.
Also I find that lowering your head slightly while you growl helps. Sorry if that's been said a hundred times already.
Does the baking soda thing work?
Deliverance IV
2006-06-23, 23:10
Inducing phlegm and the like is horrible advice. The air blown will blow most of it out of the way, and only large amounts could really effect your voice. Milk is definately not a good choice. Drink slightly warm water to clear your throat, not cold water. Liquids won't help much aside from effecting your muscles because of the fact that your vocal chords reside in the larynx, and liquids go down the pharynx. Smoking will only coat your voice with a sort of "Artificial sweetener," and the idea of that is just stupid. The best way to achieve a deeper growl naturally is to to open your throat, and practice an "O," becoming a sort of windpipe as you push with your diaphragm.
infernaldemise
2006-06-26, 00:05
GARGLE BAKING SODA WITH WATER AFTER GROWLING FOR A LONG TIME,... HEY THE VOCALIST FOR CANNIBAL CORPSE TOLD ME THIS ONE SO IT SHOULD WORK
I tried gargling baking soda with water once, it tasted bad and it didn't do anything to my vocals.
I've gotten into a routine. It's; smoke one or two fags (I don't usually.. just when I'm gonna growl) and put a glass of milk in the microwave for 1minute. That's too heat up my throat and leave some mucus. Just some crap I've felt helped a bit, don't take this as law.
Everyone is going to hate me for this, but too fucking bad :rolleyes: I find that in my case, if I smoke right before I growl and then drink some cola at room temp. I can growl deeper. However it doesn't last forever, and there are those health risk thingies, and the terrible smell; but I am not too concerned because I am not addicted, I mainly just smoke on the weekends when I really practice my growling.
I don't know about the cheese/yogurt/milk thing, but the cola helps with phlem, if that is a desirable thing. I find that coke is better for that then pepsi because it is easier on your throat and not as bubbly, even though I think pepsi tastes better.
- EXILE -
2006-07-21, 04:00
WHOOP WHOOP GO PEPSI !!! :D
Well I found smoking makes my growling more raw, black metal like, but my growls don't get any lower. Drinking milk gives a soft feeling at your vocal chords, really handy if you have been growling for a long time and your throat begins to hurt, but I can't say it improves your growling, it just makes it more easy to growl for a longer time :p
And baking soda... well I don't think that will help much either, but I usally do gargle with salt water when my throath really hurts, but that should help against infections and stuff, not your voice :p
Mapex7string
2006-07-23, 19:19
I do gutterals, and I can go lord gore low. There is only one secret, and it is practice to fucking music. Sit there, in your room, blast some brutal death metal you know well, and practice along with it.
- EXILE -
2006-07-26, 03:00
:lhdevil: :kaioken: :lhdevil:
CAPCOPSNOW
2006-08-18, 21:48
one thing i found very important especially during the winter is listerine and i dont mean the pussy mint or orange stuff... and ive found that the bakeing soda helps amazingly with guttural stuff
Did you know?
After heavy lifting/football/etc and your muscles are sore if you drink i think 1 teaspoon with 16oz of water yor muscles recover very very quickly.
So i would think gargling baking soda would help recover the throat soreness and get it ready or some more death metal violence!!!:lhdevil:
i agree, if you are gonna growl you need to understand that it will fucking hurt, but you get used to it.
This clears up alot of bullshit I have been hearing. Thanks.
Seriously.
sixsicsix
2006-09-08, 20:04
I need to get educated on some technique.
Our vocalist wants to do something like nile and have all of us doing vocals.
I am expected to do the low gutturals because I have the lowest voice, but I havent the slightest idea how.
Im talking about the stuff he does in the end of user-maat-re on annihilation of the wicked and it almost sounds like a long low belch.
My guess is that it is an inhale but I dont know.
Any ideas?
screamface78
2006-11-04, 19:23
i dont drink or smoke so are there regular things i should eat / drink to work on my growl
Porngrinder
2006-11-07, 16:34
Smoking is bad for vox. Drinking I'm not sure, but I am almost positive it has no affect.
Still, Corey Taylor has awesome Vox (check either Slipknot or Stone Sour) and he smokes like a chimney!
sixsicsix
2006-11-07, 19:49
i guess...if awesome vox means just yelling in a mic, then doing low "I wish I was evil, nobody understands me" mumbling.
Porngrinder
2006-11-08, 04:05
Nah man, you go ahead and yell into a mic, you'll never sound like him, all you'll get is a fuckload of distortion. I'm not a huge fan of Slipknot, but I do like a lot of Stone Sour songs and his cleans are also quite good. Hes not perfect, but at least he doesn't fake his voice through effects 'n stuff. I kinda respect the guy ;-)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Slw6D7oyiDM I mean that is kinda nice...
sixsicsix
2006-11-08, 16:20
nu uh.
Porngrinder
2006-11-09, 05:15
nu uh.
What a deep response :D
i guess...if awesome vox means just yelling in a mic, then doing low "I wish I was evil, nobody understands me" mumbling.
What the fuck? Have you ever heard Slipknot or Stone Sour at all? I wouldnt say that for example Silly World, Through Glass or Zzyxx Roead (Stone Sour) got that much randomly yelling. :rolleyes:
He got a awesome voice^^
Unanything
2006-12-23, 11:04
Nah man, you go ahead and yell into a mic, you'll never sound like him, all you'll get is a fuckload of distortion. I'm not a huge fan of Slipknot, but I do like a lot of Stone Sour songs and his cleans are also quite good. Hes not perfect, but at least he doesn't fake his voice through effects 'n stuff. I kinda respect the guy ;-)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Slw6D7oyiDM I mean that is kinda nice...
I respect him for his outlook on life, and he can sing quite well.
7-string warlord
2006-12-23, 11:50
what the fuck happened to metal tabs? I remember a day when one post containing the word slipknot was flamed to hell! And now this! Well I guess I can respect your god-awful taste in liking Corey Taylor's voice, but this is about growling, which he damn sure doesn't do. He just kinda shouts, and....stuff.
You're right, he cant growl, but you can't honestly mean that he cant sing?
7-string warlord
2006-12-23, 14:35
well, I'm not too into clean vocals myself......so I wouldn't be the best judge, but I like the way Ihsahn does clean vocals, and vortex. Corey taylor isn't near them at all, just in my opinion though.
Well, of course, we all got different taste, but i like his clean voice. Vegard Sverre Tveitan(Ihsahn) is pretty damn good too, but Corey Taylor has a total different way of singing. I like Corey better, but Ihsahn also got a place in my favorite list :P But as i said before, we all got different taste.
sixsicsix
2006-12-25, 21:57
Hey, i am guy form Norway.
I do vocals in my band called Beyond Insanity.
In the last year i`ve grewn in knowlage of what i am doing, and that leads me up to where i am to day. but i am lookong fore some more knowlage.
Does anny one know where i can find some good advices fore how using the voice by growling. i also want the high pitch part.
-Never!
I love how this guys accent developed more and more throughout the post......totally not norwiegen.
7-string warlord
2006-12-25, 22:43
Well, of course, we all got different taste, but i like his clean voice. Vegard Sverre Tveitan(Ihsahn) is pretty damn good too, but Corey Taylor has a total different way of singing. I like Corey better, but Ihsahn also got a place in my favorite list :P But as i said before, we all got different taste.
But you have to admit Ihsahn is 700x a better musician than him.
200th post!
But you have to admit Ihsahn is 700x a better musician than him.
200th post!
Well, of course. But, as this is the vocal zone, i was focusing on the vocal part. And both are good vocalists, but they have completly different styles, so its kind of pointless comparing their vocals.
I love how this guys accent developed more and more throughout the post......totally not norwiegen.
Are norwegians supposed to suck in english? I mean, I think my english is pretty decent, and I'm from Norway :p
sixsicsix
2006-12-26, 18:36
Well, of course. But, as this is the vocal zone, i was focusing on the vocal part. And both are good vocalists, but they have completly different styles, so its kind of pointless comparing their vocals.
Are norwegians supposed to suck in english? I mean, I think my english is pretty decent, and I'm from Norway :p
you missed the point, he developed an overstressed accent more and more over a period of one paragraph.
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